Mini-Guide: Fighting Bosses with Baton Pass

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If you got to this guide and have no goddamn idea on how Bosses work, before anything, read this Bible.

 

I'll get straight to the point: I just finished my Boss Guide with Mega Slowbro, so now I will tackle Baton Passing against bosses.

The following teams can be substituted by many different options, made quicker if needed (you could use a Baton Passer with Speed Boost and Evasion).

I hope you enjoy it.

 

Budget Option = ONLY JOHTO AND KANTO AREAS ARE ALLOWED. NO DAYCARE (because this requires beating two bosses), NO AWKWARD/EXTREMELY HARD TUTORS TO FIND.

No Hidden Abilities required.

Semi Expensive Option: Unlike Mega Slowbro Teams, which barely require ANY real effort to build (you can build a really strong team with just trash pokemon), Baton Pass requires SOME investment to be functional. In this section you'll see the midway point where we will allow Johto, Kanto areas and tutors, BUT ALSO DAYCARE OPTIONS (which opens a whole new world). Still no Hidden Abilities required.

Expensive Option = All 4 Regions in the game allowed, anything allowed in general.

 

The Team

 

Cheap Version

 

 

The Debuffers

 

Jumpluff: 252 SPEED 252 HP EV. Timid/Jolly, Any ability, Brightpowder. Moveset: Cotton Spore, Worry Seed, Flash, Memento.

Magnezone: 252 SPEED 252 HP, Timid, Sturdy. Lum Berry/Brightpowder. Moveset: Thunder Wave, Explosion, Flash, Iron Defense/Substitute

Persian: 252 SPEED 252 HP, Jolly, Limber. Focus Sash. Moveset: Taunt, Roar, Flash, Knock Off/Switcheroo

Dugtrio: 252 SPEED 252 HP, Jolly. Any Ability. Brightpowder. Moveset: Sand-Attack, Stealth Rock, any move here, Substitute

^îf you do not want to do the requirements for Trainer's Valley, you will have to use Switcheroo on Persian and won't be able to use Susbtitute.

 

These four are the core that prepares our sweep. They are in charge of debuffing the first pokemon from the Boss so that our Baton Pass can set up easily.

 

The Baton Passers

 

It is very hard to find cheap versions of Baton Passers as most Baton Passers struggle not being able to Pass enough stats for you to work properly. We will have limited choices here unfortunately.

For this guide, we will use the cheapest Baton Passer in the game: Furret.

Unfortunately, since we mentioned we will not be using Daycare or any hard tutors to obtain in the game, we can ONLY resort to Furret. Not even Venomoth is an option.

Furret: Leftovers, Impish/Careful, any ability. Impish 252 DEF EV, 252 HP. Careful 252 SPDEF EV, 252 HP. Agility, Coil, Substitute, Baton Pass.

Note: you can also run it Jolly, 252 SPEED 252 HP.

 

What this also means is that using budget options means you CANNOT Baton Pass onto SPATKers unless you atleast have the Daycare UNLOCKED with Venomoth.

You can only use Physical Attackers with the current rules set in this guide for an actual budget team (Common Pokemon, Kanto/Johto only, no weird/hard to obtain tutors)

 

The Sweepers

 

On the Sweeper side, we are going to use extremely budget options since we clarified this is a budget team. This is mainly aimed to be KANTO ONLY if possible, or Johto Only as a maximum. My Budget teams aim to be available to newbies hunting between Kanto and Johto, the Expensive versions are always for midgame to lategame players.

For a Sweeper, we are looking for any pokemon with:

50 or higher base Speed (NOTHING LOWER THAN THIS, I'LL EXPLAIN SHORTLY AFTERWARDS)

100 or base ATK or SPATK atleast (exceptions: pokemon with Adaptability, Huge/Pure Power, weather abilities like Drizzle/Drought that power up your moves, Sniper, Mold Breaker, any ability that powers you up, allows you to ignore other abilities, etc.)

Easy to find and build movesets (Level up moves, TM moves, tutors easily accessible in Kanto/Johto).

 

Explanation: assuming you use a 50 base speed pokemon, with 31 IV and no speed investment, you will reach around 136 speed. At +6 Speed you will be at 544 speed. While this number may seem absurd, remember that Hard Bosses have 400 EVs in all stats (including speed) with 31 IVs on each. There are some bosses which have + Speed natures and also have a Choice Scarf equipped (like Officer Jenny's Manectric). This means that she (and a few other bosses) are still capable of outspeeding your pokemon at +6 speed.

 

If you are running a slow tanky attacker that deals massive damage under Baton Pass (the best examples are Azumarill and Conkeldurr), keep in mind that if you use a 252 ATK/SPATK and 252 HP spread, you MIGHT, VERY RARELY get outsped.

 

If you use a pokemon with 40 base speed or below, there will be MANY more Boss pokemon with Choice Scarf that will outspeed you and if unlucky, they will crit and kill you. You'll lose the boss fight. Thus, please don't use any attackers with 50 Base Speed or below. Check Bulbapedia to see if their Base Speed stat is atleast 50. Remember that your boss sweeper should have 20+ IV in all important stats.

 

On a similar note, using a pokemon with less than base 100 ATK or SPATK, unless you have an ability that makes your pokemon broken (like the ones mentioned above), makes you not hit hard enough even at +6 ATK or SPATK. I know it sounds weird that reaching over 1200 or so ATK or SPATK is not enough, but:

+6 252+ Atk Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shuckle: 241-285 (98.7 - 116.8%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

 

^there are pokemon in Bosses tanky enough to withstand the strongest attacks from below 100 base ATK or SPATK if you don't have an ability or item to support it. By the way, that's a MEDIUM Boss. A Hard Boss would be able to ALWAYS survive the hit and Stone Edge your Talonflame to death. Azumarill instead, with a base 50 ATK, thanks to its Huge Power ability:

+6 252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Shuckle: 274-324 (112.2 - 132.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

Below I link a list of all possible Kanto / Johto Physical Sweepers that can help you. They are all COMMON rarity, hit hard enough and don't have really hard requirements.

Their IVs should be 20+ except in the reduced stat (in this case, you will always ignore SPATK because all these sets are for physical attackers)

 

 

Normal

 

Raticate - Guts - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Ursaring - Guts - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

 

Fighting

 

Machamp - No Guard/Guts - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

^yes, I know it's sad but there's not really another option, not even Primeape lol.

 

Flying

 

Literally none LOL

 

Poison

 

Beedrill Mega - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED - The Megastone for Beedrill is really easy to obtain, winning a few times in the Bug Catching Contest.

 

Ground

 

Dugtrio - any abi - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Golem - Sturdy - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Mamoswine - any abi - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

 

Rock

 

Golem - Sturdy - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP 

 

Bug

 

Beedrill Mega - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

 

Ghost

 

There are NO Common Kanto or Johto pokemon whose main stat to attack is ATK.

 

Steel

 

The only Common Kanto or Johto pokemon that is a Steel Type is Magnezone, but it's a SPATK user.

 

Fire

 

There are no Common Fire Types in Kanto or Johto.

 

Water

 

Gyarados Mega - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Gyarados non Mega - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Kingler - any ability (all 3 are amazing for this dude) - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

 

Grass

 

Grass Type Physical Attackers are rare to find. There's no Common one available that is good enough.

 

Electric

 

No Common Electric Physically oriented pokemon are available in Kanto.

 

Psychic

 

No good physical Psychic attackers are common.

 

Ice

 

Mamoswine - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

 

Dragon

 

All options here are atleast Rare or very rare. No.

 

Dark

 

The only budget option that is SOMEWHAT close would be Mightyena lmao.

 

Fairy

 

Granbull - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP/SPEED

 

 

Semi Expensive Version (Kanto and Johto only, DAYCARE UNLOCKED. Uncommon Pokemon now allowed.)

Trainer's Valley Unlocked for Knock Off (Persian) or don't unlock it and use Switcheroo.

Note that Gengar can use either Giga Drain (obtainable in Kanto) or Energy Ball (obtainable in other regions)

 

Note: The Debuffers are exactly the same. The Baton Passers and Sweepers gain new options thanks to Venomoth gaining access to Daycare and gaining Baton Pass.

 

Below you have the sample team A (Furret - Physical Sweeper) and B (Venomoth - Special Sweeper)

 

 

 

The Debuffers

 

Jumpluff: 252 SPEED 252 HP EV. Timid/Jolly, Any ability, Brightpowder. Moveset: Cotton Spore, Worry Seed, Flash, Memento.

Magnezone: 252 SPEED 252 HP, Timid, Sturdy. Lum Berry/Brightpowder. Moveset: Thunder Wave, Explosion, Flash, Iron Defense

Persian: 252 SPEED 252 HP, Jolly, Limber. Focus Sash. Moveset: Taunt, Roar, Flash, Knock Off/Switcheroo

Dugtrio: 252 SPEED 252 HP, Jolly. Any Ability. Brightpowder. Moveset: Sand-Attack, Stealth Rock, Memento (daycare), Substitute

 

The Baton Passers

 

It is very hard to find cheap versions of Baton Passers as most Baton Passers struggle not being able to Pass enough stats for you to work properly. We will have limited choices here unfortunately. With a higher budget we'd be able to explore more obscure options (Medicham, Leavanny, Lopunny)

With the special addition of Daycare (it's so goddamn funny that literally ALL of the SPATK users you can use in Johto and Kanto are literally gatekept because the ONLY budget SPATK Baton Passer is Venomoth and Baton Pass is locked behind Daycare) we can add Venomoth to our options.

Furret: Leftovers, Impish/Careful, any ability. Impish 252 DEF EV, 252 HP. Careful 252 SPDEF EV, 252 HP. Agility, Coil, Substitute, Baton Pass.

Optionally: Jolly, 252 SPEED, 252 HP

Venomoth (DAYCARE ONLY): Bold, any ability, 252 DEF 252 HP. Leftovers. Substitute, Baton Pass, Quiver Dance, Roost.

With the addition of Venomoth, this opens up ALL good SPATK attackers that fit our really low budget (we're practically beggars in Vermillion at this point lmao).

 

The Sweepers

(The full explanation on why I chose these and not more pokemon is explained above)

 

This is an improvisation. This will include:

UNCOMMON rarity pokemon

Still KANTO AND JOHTO ONLY

However, we will also grant access to Daycare moves, opening our options. The other regions will still be ignored (also Rare pokemon or just unusable hot garbage).

 

 

Normal

 

Ambipom - Technician - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Miltank - Scrappy - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Pidgeot (Mega) - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Raticate - Guts - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Ursaring - Guts - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

 

Fighting

 

Hariyama - Guts - 252 ATK 252 HP

Machamp - No Guard/Guts - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

 

Flying

 

Pidgeot (Mega) - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Pelipper - Drizzle - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

 

Poison

 

Beedrill Mega - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Gengar - Cursed Body - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Venomoth - Tinted Lens - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Vileplume/Bellossom - any abi - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 HP

 

Ground

 

Donphan - Sturdy - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Dugtrio - any abi - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Golem - Sturdy - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Mamoswine - any abi - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Marowak - Rock Head - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Rhyperior - Solid Rock - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

 

Rock

 

Golem  - Sturdy - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Rhyperior - Solid Rock - Adamant- 252 ATK 252 HP

Sudowoodo - Rock Head - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

 

Bug

 

Beedrill Mega - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEEDD

Venomoth - Modest - Tinted Lens - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Yanmega - Modest - Tinted Lens - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

 

Ghost

 

Gengar - Cursed Body - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Mismagius - Levitate - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

 

Steel

 

Magnezone - Modest - Sturdy - 252 SPATK 252 HP/SPEED

 

Fire

 

Arcanine - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Rapidash - Adamant - Flash Fire - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

 

Water

 

Azumarill - Adamant - Huge Power - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Cloyster - Skill Link - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Gyarados Mega - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Gyarados - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Kingler - any ability (all 3 are amazing for this dude) - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Octillery - Modest - Sniper - 252 SPATK 252 HP/SPEED

Pelipper - Modest - Drizzle - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Starmie - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

 

Grass

 

Exeggutor - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 HP

Roserade - Natural Cure - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Sunflora - Modest Solar Power/Chlorophyl - 252 SPATK 252 HP

 

Electric

 

Magnezone - Modest - Sturdy - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Pikachu - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

 

Psychic

 

Alakazam - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Exeggutor - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Jynx - Modest - Dry Skin/Oblivious - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Starmie - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

 

Ice

 

Cloyster - Adamant - Skill Link - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Glaceon - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Jynx - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Mamoswine - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

 

Dragon

 

ALL DRAGONS ARE RARE OR ABOVE.

 

Dark

 

Gyara Mega - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

^yes, the only Uncommon or below Dark Type worth using isn't even a Dark Type LOL. It's just a Megaevo.

 

Fairy

 

Azumarill - Huge Power - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Clefable - Magic Guard - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 HP/SPEED

Granbull - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP/SPEED

 

Expensive Version

 

 

The Debuffers

 

Whimsicott, Golduck, Magnezone and Skarmory

Whimsicott: Bold/Calm (Bold is WAY better), 252 EV HP. 252 DEF if Bold, 252 SPDEF if Calm. PRANKSTER ABILITY.

Flash, Memento, Cotton Spore, Switcheroo on Whimsicott. Lagging Tail equipped.

Golduck: Timid, 252 EV SPEED 252 HP. Soak, Yawn, Flash, Simple Beam. Focus Sash equipped.

Skarmory: Impish, 252 DEF 252 HP. MUST BE STURDY. Lum Berry equipped. Stealth Rock, Flash, Roost, Whirlwind.

Magnezone: Timid, 252 EV SPEED 252 HP. Flash, Thunder Wave, Iron  Defense, Explosion. Lum Berry Equipped.

 

Whimsicott can immediately Cotton Spore or Switcheroo a Lagging Tail onto the boss lead. Prankster will give any status move +1 Priority. This ability is blocked by Dark Type pokemon. If you use a Status Move, it will always go first unless the opponent uses Bullet Punch or a similar move. This only happens in two bosses: Bugsy (Scizor uses Bullet Punch) and Pumpkin King (it starts with a Bisharp). You will almost always either give the opponent a Lagging Tail or reduce its speed in the first turn. You will Flash, Cotton Spore or Memento and debuff the opponent's lead before Golduck comes. Golduck should always Simple Beam then Flash. Afterwards, Magnezone and Skarmory can finish Flashing to -6 Accuracy. Magnezone can Thunder Wave and use Explosion to have a safe switch to Gorebyss. Skarmory has Stealth Rock to set them in whichever boss you need it. Skarmory also has access to Whirlwind for specific boss leads.

 

The Baton Passers

Shell Smashers: Huntail and Gorebyss

 

Clamperl, Gorebyss and Huntail:

Gorebyss and Clamperl - Bold/Calm, 252 DEF 252 HP if Bold, 252 SPDEF 252 HP is Calm. Alternatively, Timid Gorebyss, 252 SPEED 252 HP, which is what I currently use.

Gorebyss Leftovers, Clamperl Eviolite. Substitute, Shell Smash, Baton Pass, Aqua Ring.

Huntail - Impish/Careful, 252 DEF 252 HP if Impish, 252 SPDEF 252 HP if Careful. Leftovers. Substitute, Shell Smash, Baton Pass, Aqua Ring.

They simply come in, Substitute, Shell Smash three times, Aqua Ring if needed, then Baton Pass it onto the sweeper.

Note: Protect does the same function as Aqua Ring, letting you recover an extra turn. However, Aqua Ring is baton passed onto your Pangoro, so if you mess up against a boss who can hurt you and you still have your Sash up, 

 

Any Sweeper LITERALLY ANYTHING IN THE WHOLE GAME will work if your Baton Pass setup works. However, the most broken option in the entire game is Pangoro.

I will first give you the Pangoro as the main sweeper that you will ALWAYS be using in an Expensive team (because you can afford it), then a long list of recommended sweepers of all types.

 

Recommended: Pangoro.

Pangoro, Adamant, 252 ATK 252 SPEED. Mold Breaker. Focus Sash/Lum Berry (depending on the boss).

Moveset: Power Trip, Crunch, Storm Throw, Earthquake.

Pangoro comes in with +6 stats on everything, clicks Power Trip and faints everything. Power Trip's base power is based on the amount of stat boosts you have. It powers up more the more stat boosts you have. Power Trip's maximum base power is 380. Yes, you read that right.

380.

Pangoro gets Mold Breaker, which ignores the opponent's abilities. Sturdy? You faint in a single turn anyway. Unaware? Sorry, I bypass it and you get hit by a 860 attack move. Pangoro deals damage in the thousands, it is literally impossible to stop once it gets going. Pangoro is just broken to an extent that it should be banned.

 

Ah, wanna know the best thing? Decreased stats don't affect Power Trip, so if you use Shell Smash, your decreased stats will not decrease Power Trip. After three Shell Smash, your base power is:

20 (base from the move)

20 x stat increase: 20x6 ATK increases + 20x6 SPATK increases + 20x6 SPEED increases.

20 + (20x6) + (20x6) + (20x6) = 380 base power. Before you count STAB, item choice and Pangoro's ATK.

 

Congrats, this dude beats every single Boss Team in the game. Enjoy it I guess.

 

Below I will drop the list of ALL possible good Boss Sweepers in the game (after being Baton Passed onto).

Afterwards, I will analyse most bosses. Most bosses are copy and paste strategies, there is borderline no difference between them.

Unlike Mega Slowbro, we will abuse the same strat over and over.

 

 

Normal

 

Ambipom - Skill Link / Technician - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Bouffalant - Reckless - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Braviary - Sheer Force - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Lopunny (Mega) - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Cinccino - Skill Link / Technician - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Diggersby - Huge Power - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Exploud - Scrappy - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Fearow - Sniper - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Kangaskhan (mega or not, I even forgot this gets a mega in gen 6 lol) - Scrappy - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Miltank - Scrappy - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Noctowl - Tinted Lens - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Pidgeot (Mega) - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Porygon Z - Adaptability - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Raticate - Guts - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Sawsbuck - Serene Grace - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Snorlax - Immunity/Thick Fat - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Staraptor - Reckless - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Stoutlant - Scrappy - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Swellow - Guts - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Swellow - Scrappy - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Ursaring - Guts - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Zangoose - Toxic Boost - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

 

Fighting

 

Blaziken (Mega or not) - Speed Boost - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Breloom - Technician/Poison Heal - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Conkeldurr - any abi - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Emboar - Reckless - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Gallade (mega or not) - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Hariyama - Guts - 252 ATK 252 HP

Heracross (mega or not) - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Hitmonchan - Iron Fist - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Hitmonlee - Reckless - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Hitmontop - Technician - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Infernape - Iron Fist - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Infernape - Blaze - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Keldeo - Justified - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Kommo-o - Bulletproof - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Kommo-o - Bulletproof - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Lopunny (Mega) - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Lucario (Mega or not) - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Lucario (Mega or not) - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Machamp - No Guard/Guts - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Medicham (Mega or not) - Pure Power - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Mienshao - Reckless - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Pangoro - Mold Breaker - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Sawk - Sturdy/Mold Breaker - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Throh - Guts/Mold Breaker - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

 

Flying

 

Aerodactyl (Mega or not) - Rock Head - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Altaria (Mega or not, but if possible Mega) - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Braviary - Sheer Force - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Fearow - Sniper - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Noctowl - Tinted Lens - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Pidgeot (Mega) - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Staraptor - Reckless - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Charizard (mega X if possible) - Blaze - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Charizard (mega Y if possible) - any abi - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Dragonite - Any abi - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED (I don't recommend the special version)

Honchkrow - Super Luck - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Landorus - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Moltres - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Pelipper - Drizzle - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Salamance (mega or not) - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Pinsir (mega) - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Shaymin Sky - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Sigylph - Magic Guard - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Thundurus - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Togekiss - Modest Super Luck/Serene Grace- 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Unfezant (why in the f...) - Super Luck - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Zapdos - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

 

Poison

 

Beedrill Mega - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Drapion - Battle Armor/Sniper - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Gengar - Cursed Body - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Muk/Alo Muk - Poison Touch - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Nidoking/Nidoqueen - Sheer Force - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Roserade - Technician - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Scolipede - any abi (Speed Boost is better) - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Seviper - Infiltrator - Rash/Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Venomoth - Tinted Lens - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Vileplume - any abi - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 HP

 

Ground

 

Diggersby - Huge Power - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Donphan - Sturdy - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Excadrill - Mold Breaker - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Dugtrio - any abi - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Garchomp - any abi - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Golem - Sturdy - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Golurk - No Guard - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Hippowdown - Sand Stream - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Krookodile - any abi - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Mamoswine - any abi - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Marowak - Battle Armor - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Nidoking/Queen - Sheer Force - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Rhyperior - Reckless/Solid Rock - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Steelix Mega - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Swampert/Mega - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

 

Rock

 

Aerodactyl/Mega - Rock Head - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Aggron - Rock Head - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Armaldo - Adamant - Battle Armor - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Aurorus - Snow Warning - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Barbaracle - Tough Claws/Sniper - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Carracosta - Sturdy - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Crustle - Shell Armor - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Diancie Mega - Rash - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Gigalith - Sand Stream - Adamant- 252 ATK 252 HP

Golem Alolan - Galvanise - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Kabutops - any abi - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Lycanroc - any abi and form - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Omastar - any abi - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Rampardos - Mold Breaker - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Relicanth - Adamant - Rock Head - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Rhyperior - Reckless/Solid Rock - Adamant- 252 ATK 252 HP

Sudowoodo - Rock Head - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Tyranitar (mega or not) - Sand Stream - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Tyrantrum - Rock Head/Strong Jaw - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

 

Bug

 

Accelgor - any abi - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Armaldo - Adamant - Battle Armor - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Crustle - Shell Armor - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Beedrill Mega - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Butterfree - Modest - Tinted Lens - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Escavalier - Adamant - Shell Armor - 252 ATK 252 HP

Heracross (mega or not) - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Leavanny - any abi - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Pinsir - Mold Breaker - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Pinsir - Mega - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Scizor (Mega or not) - Adamant - Technician - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Shedinja (DON'T RELY ON THIS THING, BUT IT'S GOOD TO CHEESE ABUSING ITS ABILITY) - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Venomoth - Modest - Tinted Lens - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Yanmega - Modest - Tinted Lens - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Volcarona - Any abi - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

 

Ghost

 

Golurk - No Guard - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Gengar - Cursed Body - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Mega Banette - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Chandelure - Flash Fire/Infiltrator - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Dhelmise - Steelworker - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Dusknoir - any abi - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Marowak Alola - Rock Head - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Mimikyu - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Rotom (any form) - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Trevenant - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

 

Steel

 

Aegislash - Modest/Rash - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Aegislash - Adamant/Naughty - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Scizor (Mega or not) - Adamant - Technician - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Aggron - Rock Head - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Mega Aggron - Careful - 252 SPDEF 252 HP

Excadrill - Mold Breaker - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Steelix Mega - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Lucario (Mega or not) - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Lucario (Mega or not) - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Metagross (Mega or not) - Clear Body - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Bisharp - Defiant - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Empoleon - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 HP

Magnezone - Modest - Sturdy - 252 SPATK 252 HP

Mawile Mega - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Heatran - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

 

Fire

 

Arcanine - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Blaziken mega or not - Speed Boost - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Chandelure - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Chari X - Adamant - 252 SPEED 252 ATK

Chari Y - Modest - 252 SPEED 252 SPATK

Darmanitan - Adamant - Sheer Force - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Delphox - Modest - Blaze - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Emboar - Reckless - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Flareon - Guts - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Houndoom Mega (or not) - Flash Fire - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Infernape - Iron Fist - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Infernape - Blaze - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Magmortar - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Marowak Alola - Rock Head - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Ninetales - Drought - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Rapidash - Adamant - Flash Fire - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Typhlosion - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Volcarona - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

 

Water

 

Azumarill - Adamant - Huge Power - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Barbaracle - Adamant - Tough Claws - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Blastoise Mega - Modest - 252 SPATK SPEED/HP

Carracosta - Adamant - Sturdy - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Clawitzer - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED/HP

Cloyster - Skill Link - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Crawdaunt - Adamant - Adaptability - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Empoleon - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 HP/SPEED

Feraligatr - Adamant - Sheer Force - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Gorebyss - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Greninja Protean/Battle Bond - Modest or Rash - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Gyarados Mega - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Kabutops - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Keldeo - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Kingler - any ability (all 3 are amazing for this dude) - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Manaphy - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED/HP

Octillery - Modest - Sniper - 252 SPATK 252 HP/SPEED

Omastar - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Pelipper - Modest - Drizzle - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Politoed - Modest - Drizzle - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Sharpedo (mega or not) - Adamant - Speed Boost - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Starmie - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Swampert (mega or not) - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP/SPEED

Wailord - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED/HP

 

Grass

 

Breloom - Technician - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Cacturne - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Celebi - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Chesnaught - Adamant - Bulletproof - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Dhelmise - Adamant - Steelworker - 252 ATK 252 HP

Exeggutor - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 HP

Alolan Exegg - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 HP

Leafeon - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Roserade - Technician - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Sceptile Mega - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Serperior - Modest - Contrary - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Shaymin Sky - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Sunflora - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 HP

Torterra - Adamant - Shell Armor - 252 ATK 252 HP

 

Electric

 

Ampharos (Mega or not but I recommend Mega) - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Electivire - Adamant/Naughty - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Golem Alola - Galvanise - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Heliolisk - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Jolteon - Modest - Volt Absorb - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Luxray - Adamant - Guts - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Magnezone - Modest - Sturdy - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Manectric (mega) - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Pikachu - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

 

Psychic

 

Alakazam (mega or not) - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Delphox - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Espeon - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Exeggutor - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Gallade/Mega Gall - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Gardevoir / Mega Garde - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Jynx - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Medicham / Medicham Mega - Pure Power - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Metagross / Mega Meta - Clear Body - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Reuniclus - Magic Guard - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 HP

Starmie - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

 

Ice

 

Abomasnow Mega - Adamant 252 ATK 252 HP

Aurorus - Modest - Snow Warning - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Beartic - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Cloyster - Adamant - Skill Link - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Glaceon - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Glalie Mega - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Jynx - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Mamoswine - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Vanilluxe - Modest - Snow Warning 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Weavile - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

 

Dragon

 

Altaria Mega - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Ampharos Mega - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Sceptile Mega - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Charizard X - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Dragonite - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Druddigon - Sheer Force - 252 ATK 252 HP

Exegg Alola - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 HP

Garchomp - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Haxorus - Mold Breaker - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Goodra - Modest - Sap Sipper - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Hydreigon - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Kommo-o - Modest - Bulletproof - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Kommo-o - Adamant - Bulletproof - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Salamance - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Tyrantrum - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

 

Dark

 

Absol Super Luck/Absol Mega - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Bisharp - Defiant - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Cacturne - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP

Crawdaunt - Adamant - Adaptability - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Drapion - Adamant - Battle Armor/Sniper - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Gyara Mega - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Honchckrow - Adamant - Super Luck - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Houndoom Mega or non Mega - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Hydreigon - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Krookodile - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Muk - Alola - Adamant - Poison Touch - 252 ATK 252 HP

Pangoro - Adamant - Mold Breaker - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Sharpedo Mega (or non Mega) - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Weavile - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

 

Fairy

 

Altaria - Mega - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Azumarill - Huge Power - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED

Clefable - Magic Guard - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Gardevoir/Mega - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

Granbull - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 HP/SPEED

Mawile Mega - Adamant - 252 ATK 252 SPEED/HP

Sylveon - Pyxilate - Modest - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED/HP

Togekiss - Modest - Super Luck/Serene Grace - 252 SPATK 252 SPEED

 

Boss analysis

Does the boss start with a Mega?

If: yes > debuff its speed with Cotton Spore or Scary Face or similar and then start debuffing other stats

If: no > Switcheroo a lagging tail or debuff its speed then debuff other stats

 

Does the boss start with a pokemon with a move such as Roar/Whirlwind?

If: yes > just don't do the boss. In all seriousnesses, Baton Pass teams completely lose if all your setup is gone if the boss uses Roar or Whirlwind, which bypass substitute, which removes all your stat boosts. The move Haze also removes all your stat boosts but if I am not mistaken there's no boss that uses it currently on their lead pokemon. Ash Westbrook is known for having 2 Roar pokemon in his team and one is in the lead. 

If: no > free money, do the boss.

 

Does the boss have an Unaware pokemon?

If: yes > use a Mold Breaker sweeper if possible. Mold Breaker ignores Unaware so you will oneshot it. There are 4 Unaware pokemon spread among 4 bosses: The one in Ilex Forest, Raikou Guardian, Toothless and Diepy. They are two Clefable and two Quagsire. If you don't have Mold Breaker, you will be fighting these 4 pokemon 1 v 1 and the game will ignore all of your stat boosts.

If: no > completely do the boss, free money!

 

Thus, the list of hard bosses to tackle with Baton Pass is:

Erika - Maribela - Raikou Guardian - Toothless - Diepy - Ash Westbrook - Neroli.

 

Everything else in the game is absolutely free money no matter how badly you set up as long as you set up your team properly.

 

So far, these are the only counters to Baton Pass teams. You do not need a full on analysis for each boss.

Edited June 4, 2023 by Bhimoso

[Fixed7]

What purpose is the Hazard Setter? After all the de-buffing and buffing, Pangoro will 1-shot no matter what, right? And with Mold break, sturdy shouldn't be a problem. 

Am I missing something big? Or can that be swapped out for anything?

 

I've been running this setup for a few bosses, and Forretress seems kinda useless xD

Edited July 6, 2022 by Fixed7

[Karyoplasma]

 

12 hours ago, Fixed7 said:

Am I missing something big? Or can that be swapped out for anything?

 

I've been running this setup for a few bosses, and Forretress seems kinda useless xD

You need rocks or spikes for some bosses to break Focus Sash. Having both is excessive, yeah. I use my trusty Uxie for this, it learns both screens, rocks and memento and also it's naturally bulky. Any defensive nature works, EVs in HP and the boosted defense.

[Fixed7]

5 hours ago, Karyoplasma said:

 

You need rocks or spikes for some bosses to break Focus Sash. Having both is excessive, yeah. I use my trusty Uxie for this, it learns both screens, rocks and memento and also it's naturally bulky. Any defensive nature works, EVs in HP and the boosted defense.

Ah, right, Mold breaker doesn't work on items, that explains it. Ty ty

[Bhimoso]

Guide has been reworked and added sample teams.

[Momot]

Great Guide, as always I'd like to realize the parts, that'll improve my team.

 

For this, I've got 2 Questions:

1. How do you teach Dodu/Dodri Boton-Pass?
2. How do you get enough PP to use Accupresure 21 times?

Thank you in advance.

[Bhimoso]

@Momot

Dodrio's Baton Pass tutor is unfortunately Xmas only (for some weird reason I have no idea about) so I use Medicham instead (requires level up moves, tm from trainer's valley and daycare (unsure if it needs any daycare move actually but I think so))

You use PP up on Acupressure to be able to use it 21 times.

[Bhimoso]

Updated and completely overhauled.

[Mandrago]

con respecto a los IV de los pokemon puede ser cualquiera ? o como es la cosa