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Question about PVP rules

Sun, 16 Aug 2026 18:24:38 +0000

Hi, I would like to know if it's ban material to enter pvp fight with a guts pokemon already burned holding an item like choice band or life orb.

I looked everywhere on the rules and didn't find anything mentioning it, but while trying to find about it on google AI it mentioned something about staff members being able to flag that as cheating

Appreciate the help!

PRO PvP Speed Tiers (Updated on 03/01/2025)

Sun, 16 Mar 2025 01:11:45 +0000

PRO PvP Speed Tiers

Speed stats are an important defining characteristic of each Pokémon species. They determine the order of moves made by Pokémon during a battle. Assuming an equal level of priority, Pokémon with a higher Speed stat at the start of any given turn will make a move before those with lower Speed. In the case of a Speed tie, which occurs when two Pokémon have the same Speed, one of them will randomly go first. Speed-altering moves, like Dragon Dance or Hammer Arm, only start affecting a Pokémon’s Speed on the following turn.

You should first identify the maximum Speed of the Pokémon of your choice. You must take into account its Speed IVs and, based on the Pokémon that you want it to outspeed, distribute its EVs accordingly. For example, if your Jolly Gliscor has 31 Speed IVs, you can give it 112 EVs to reach 279 Speed and outspeed any non-Choice Scarf Timid Heatran with max Speed IVs and EVs (i.e., 278 Speed). If your Jolly Gliscor only has 26 IVs, you can give it 132 Speed EVs to achieve the same feat. When you do this, it is best to assume perfect IVs for opposing Pokémon.

This thread will only provide the Speed stats of currently viable Pokémon, so it will not cover every single Pokémon in the game, since it primarily is a PvP-focused resource. The updated Viability Rankings can be found here. For individual PvP sets for each viable Pokémon, you may check out this resource. Both threads will continue to be updated in the future with more accurate and relevant information.

Since there are far too many viable Speed tiers and Pokémon sets, some will understandably be missing from the list. For example, you may encounter a Bold Volcarona with 240 or 241 Speed or a Pokémon not even mentioned in this thread. Similarly, you may also run into a Zapdos with an unlisted Speed number. Many players do not have perfect Speed IVs on all their Pokémon and some opt for unusual or custom EV spreads tailored according to the needs of their teams.

The following Speed tier list is separated into six different tiers: Pokémon with 500+ Speed, those with 400+ Speed, those with 300+ Speed, those with 200+ Speed, those with 100+ Speed, and those with less than 100 Speed. The items within each tier are arranged in descending order, that is, from the fastest Pokémon to the slowest. In some cases, specific scenarios or boosts are taken into account. For example, Trace Mega Alakazam using its ability to copy Sand Rush or Swift Swim becomes twice as fast as normal when the relevant weather is up. Only 2 additional Speed stages will be counted at most for Pokémon that can boost their own Speed thanks to Quiver Dance, Dragon Dance, Beast Boost, etc.

Tier 0: 500 and above

Pokémon	Base	Nature	EVs	IVs	Stage	Speed
Mega Alakazam	150	Positive	252	31	+2	876
Mega Alakazam	150	Neutral	252	31	+2	798
Ribombee	124	Positive	252	31	+2	762
Hawlucha	118	Positive	252	31	+2	736
Mega Diancie	110	Positive	252	31	+2	700
Mega Metagross	110	Positive	252	31	+2	700
Hawlucha	118	Neutral	252	31	+2	670
Thundurus-Therian	101	Positive	252	31	+2	662
Mega Charizard X	100	Positive	252	31	+2	656
Volcarona	100	Positive	252	31	+2	656
Mega Diancie	110	Neutral	252	31	+2	638
Mega Metagross	110	Neutral	252	31	+2	638
Landorus-Therian	91	Positive	252	31	+2	618
Excadrill	88	Positive	252	31	+2	604
Thundurus-Therian	101	Neutral	252	31	+2	602
Mega Charizard X	100	Neutral	252	31	+2	598
Volcarona	100	Neutral	252	31	+2	598
Kommo-o	85	Positive	252	31	+2	590
Gyarados	81	Positive	252	31	+2	574
Mega Gyarados	81	Positive	252	31	+2	574
Ribombee	124	Positive	252	31	+1	571
Dragonite	80	Positive	252	31	+2	568
Mega Altaria	80	Positive	252	31	+2	568
Greninja	122	Positive	252	31	+1	565
Landorus-Therian	91	Neutral	252	31	+2	562
Excadrill	88	Neutral	252	31	+2	550
Kingdra	85	Neutral	252	31	+2	538
Serperior	113	Positive	252	31	+1	535
Mega Tyranitar	71	Positive	252	31	+2	530
Gengar	110	Positive	252	31	+1	525
Latias	110	Positive	252	31	+1	525
Latios	110	Positive	252	31	+1	525
Cloyster	70	Positive	252	31	+2	524
Mega Swampert	70	Positive	252	31	+2	524
Keldeo	108	Positive	252	31	+1	519
Dragonite	80	Neutral	252	31	+2	518
Mega Altaria	80	Neutral	252	31	+2	518
Venusaur	80	Neutral	252	31	+2	518
Blacephalon	107	Positive	252	31	+1	516
Venusaur (HP Fire)	80	Neutral	252	30	+2	516

Tier 1: 400-499

Pokémon	Base	Nature	EVs	IVs	Stage	Speed
Garchomp	102	Positive	252	31	+1	499
Manaphy	100	Positive	252	31	+1	492
Mega Charizard X	100	Positive	252	31	+1	492
Jirachi	100	Positive	252	31	+1	492
Volcarona	100	Positive	252	31	+1	492
Victini	100	Positive	252	31	+1	492
Hydreigon	98	Positive	252	31	+1	486
Cloyster	70	Neutral	252	31	+2	478
Mega Swampert	70	Neutral	252	31	+2	478
Landorus-Therian	91	Positive	252	31	+1	463
Annihilape	90	Positive	252	31	+1	459
Porygon-Z	90	Positive	252	31	+1	459
Excadrill	88	Positive	252	31	+1	453
Manaphy	100	Neutral	252	31	+1	448
Mega Charizard X	100	Neutral	252	31	+1	448
Volcarona	100	Neutral	252	31	+1	448
Rotom-Wash	86	Positive	252	31	+1	447
Kommo-o	85	Positive	252	31	+1	442
Mega Aerodactyl	150	Positive	252	31	+0	438
Mega Alakazam	150	Positive	252	31	+0	438
Gyarados	81	Positive	252	31	+1	430
Mega Gyarados	81	Positive	252	31	+1	430
Dragonite	80	Positive	252	31	+1	426
Mega Altaria	80	Positive	252	31	+1	426
Togekiss	80	Positive	252	31	+1	426
Diggersby	78	Positive	252	31	+1	420
Heatran	77	Positive	252	31	+1	417
Mega Altaria	80	Neutral	28	31	+2	406
Mega Lopunny	135	Positive	252	31	+0	405
Mega Manectric	135	Positive	252	31	+0	405

Tier 2: 300-399

Pokémon	Base	Nature	EVs	IVs	Stage	Speed
Mega Alakazam	150	Neutral	252	31	+0	399
Mega Tyranitar	71	Positive	252	31	+1	397
Dragonite	80	Neutral	252	31	+1	388
Mega Altaria	80	Neutral	252	31	+1	388
Weavile	125	Positive	252	31	+0	383
Ribombee	124	Positive	252	31	+0	381
Greninja	122	Positive	252	31	+0	377
Tornadus-Therian	121	Positive	252	31	+0	375
Mega Pidgeot	121	Positive	252	31	+0	375
Alakazam	120	Positive	252	31	+0	372
Hawlucha	118	Positive	252	31	+0	368
Tyranitar	61	Positive	252	31	+1	364
Azelf	115	Positive	252	31	+0	361
Starmie	115	Positive	252	31	+0	361
Magnezone (HP Fire)	60	Positive	252	30	+1	358
Serperior	113	Positive	252	31	+0	357
Serperior (HP Fire)	113	Positive	252	30	+0	356
Thundurus-Incarnate	111	Positive	252	31	+0	353
Gengar	110	Positive	252	31	+0	350
Latias	110	Positive	252	31	+0	350
Latios	110	Positive	252	31	+0	350
Mega Diancie	110	Positive	252	31	+0	350
Mega Gallade	110	Positive	252	31	+0	350
Mega Latias	110	Positive	252	31	+0	350
Mega Latios	110	Positive	252	31	+0	350
Mega Metagross	110	Positive	252	31	+0	350
Alolan Ninetales	109	Positive	252	31	+0	348
Keldeo	108	Positive	252	31	+0	346
Infernape	108	Positive	252	31	+0	346
Blacephalon	107	Positive	252	31	+0	344
Mega Pinsir	105	Positive	252	31	+0	339
Hawlucha	118	Neutral	252	31	+0	335
Garchomp	102	Positive	252	31	+0	333
Thundurus-Therian	101	Positive	252	31	+0	331
Baby XD001	100	Positive	252	31	+0	328
Jirachi	100	Positive	252	31	+0	328
Manaphy	100	Positive	252	31	+0	328
Mega Charizard X	100	Positive	252	31	+0	328
Mega Charizard Y	100	Positive	252	31	+0	328
Mega Gardevoir	100	Positive	252	31	+0	328
Mega Medicham	100	Positive	252	31	+0	328
Mew	100	Positive	252	31	+0	328
Volcarona	100	Positive	252	31	+0	328
Victini	100	Positive	252	31	+0	328
Zapdos	100	Positive	252	31	+0	328
Hydreigon	98	Positive	252	31	+0	324
Mimikyu	96	Positive	252	31	+0	320
Mega Diancie	110	Neutral	252	31	+0	319
Mega Metagross	110	Neutral	252	31	+0	319
Gliscor	95	Positive	252	31	+0	317
Kyurem	95	Positive	252	31	+0	317
Kyurem-Black	95	Positive	252	31	+0	317
Mega Garchomp	92	Positive	252	31	+0	311
Landorus-Therian	91	Positive	252	31	+0	309
Mega Pinsir	105	Neutral	252	31	+0	309
Annihilape	90	Positive	252	31	+0	306
Porygon-Z	90	Positive	252	31	+0	306
Mega Altaria	80	Neutral	28	31	+1	304
Excadrill	88	Positive	252	31	+0	302
Thundurus-Therian	101	Neutral	252	31	+0	301

Tier 3: 200-299

Pokémon	Base	Nature	EVs	IVs	Stage	Speed
Baby XD001	100	Neutral	252	31	+0	299
Manaphy	100	Neutral	252	31	+0	299
Mega Charizard X	100	Neutral	252	31	+0	299
Mega Charizard Y	100	Neutral	252	31	+0	299
Mega Gardevoir	100	Neutral	252	31	+0	299
Mega Medicham	100	Neutral	252	31	+0	299
Volcarona	100	Neutral	252	31	+0	299
Victini	100	Neutral	252	31	+0	299
Rotom-Wash	86	Positive	252	31	+0	298
Gliscor	95	Positive	176	31	+0	297
Hydreigon	98	Neutral	252	31	+0	295
Kommo-o	85	Positive	252	31	+0	295
Nidoking	85	Positive	252	31	+0	295
Suicune	85	Positive	252	31	+0	295
Mimikyu	96	Neutral	252	31	+0	291
Kyurem	95	Neutral	252	31	+0	289
Kyurem-Black	95	Neutral	252	31	+0	289
Gyarados	81	Positive	252	31	+0	287
Mega Gyarados	81	Positive	252	31	+0	287
Suicune	85	Positive	216	31	+0	286
Dragonite	80	Positive	252	31	+0	284
Hoopa-Unbound	80	Positive	252	31	+0	284
Mamoswine	80	Positive	252	31	+0	284
Mega Altaria	80	Positive	252	31	+0	284
Togekiss	80	Positive	252	31	+0	284
Mega Garchomp	92	Neutral	252	31	+0	283
Landorus-Therian	91	Neutral	252	31	+0	281
Diggersby	78	Positive	252	31	+0	280
Annihilape	90	Neutral	252	31	+0	279
Gliscor	95	Positive	112	31	+0	279
Heatran	77	Positive	252	31	+0	278
Excadrill	88	Neutral	252	31	+0	275
Mega Heracross	75	Positive	252	31	+0	273
Mega Scizor	75	Positive	252	31	+0	273
Kingdra	85	Neutral	252	31	+0	269
Mega Tyranitar	71	Positive	252	31	+0	265
Tentacruel	100	Positive	16	31	+0	264
Togekiss	80	Positive	176	31	+0	264
Garchomp	102	Neutral	92	31	+0	263
Bisharp	70	Positive	252	31	+0	262
Breloom	70	Positive	252	31	+0	262
Cloyster	70	Positive	252	31	+0	262
Mega Swampert	70	Positive	252	31	+0	262
Volcanion	70	Positive	252	31	+0	262
Dragonite	80	Neutral	252	31	+0	259
Hoopa-Unbound	80	Neutral	252	31	+0	259
Mamoswine	80	Neutral	252	31	+0	259
Mega Altaria	80	Neutral	252	31	+0	259
Venusaur	80	Neutral	252	31	+2	259
Venusaur (HP Fire)	80	Neutral	252	30	+0	258
Diggersby	78	Neutral	252	31	+0	255
Heatran	77	Neutral	252	31	+0	253
Pelipper	65	Positive	252	31	+0	251
Scizor	65	Positive	252	31	+0	251
Mega Heracross	75	Neutral	252	31	+0	249
Mega Scizor	75	Neutral	252	31	+0	249
Garchomp	102	Neutral	20	31	+0	245
Gliscor	95	Neutral	72	31	+0	244
Jirachi	100	Neutral	32	31	+0	244
Landorus-Therian	91	Neutral	104	31	+0	244
Mew	100	Neutral	32	31	+0	244
Zapdos	100	Neutral	32	31	+0	244
Tyranitar	61	Positive	252	31	+0	243
Manaphy	100	Neutral	20	31	+0	241
Tentacruel	100	Neutral	20	31	+0	241
Aegislash	60	Positive	252	31	+0	240
Annihilape	90	Neutral	96	31	+0	240
Clefable	60	Positive	252	31	+0	240
Gliscor	95	Neutral	56	31	+0	240
Kommo-o	85	Neutral	136	31	+0	240
Zapdos	100	Neutral	16	31	+0	240
Bisharp	70	Neutral	252	31	+0	239
Breloom	70	Neutral	252	31	+0	239
Cloyster	70	Neutral	252	31	+0	239
Magnezone (HP Fire)	60	Positive	252	30	+0	239
Mega Swampert	70	Neutral	252	31	+0	239
Volcanion	70	Neutral	252	31	+0	239
Crawdaunt	55	Positive	252	31	+0	229
Pelipper	65	Neutral	252	31	+0	229
Scizor	65	Neutral	252	31	+0	229
Excadrill	88	Neutral	40	31	+0	222
Landorus-Therian	91	Neutral	16	31	+0	222
Mega Heracross	75	Neutral	144	31	+0	222
Mega Scizor	75	Neutral	144	31	+0	222
Rotom-Wash	86	Neutral	56	31	+0	222
Tyranitar	61	Neutral	252	31	+0	221
Annihilape	90	Neutral	16	31	+0	220
Bisharp	70	Neutral	176	31	+0	220
Aegislash	60	Neutral	252	31	+0	219
Clefable	60	Neutral	252	31	+0	219
Magnezone (HP Fire)	60	Neutral	252	30	+0	218
Azumarill	50	Positive	252	31	+0	218
Diancie	50	Positive	252	31	+0	218
Landorus-Therian	91	Neutral	0	31	+0	218
Annihilape	90	Neutral	0	31	+0	216
Heatran	77	Neutral	80	31	+0	210
Crawdaunt	55	Neutral	252	31	+0	209
Rotom-Wash	86	Neutral	0	31	+0	208
Kommo-o	85	Neutral	0	31	+0	206
Suicune	85	Neutral	0	31	+0	206
Mega Altaria	80	Neutral	28	31	+0	203
Bisharp	70	Neutral	96	31	+0	200
Clefable	60	Neutral	176	31	+0	200
Mega Altaria	80	Neutral	16	31	+0	200
Mega Scizor	75	Neutral	56	31	+0	200
Mega Tyranitar	71	Neutral	88	31	+0	200
Mega Venusaur (HP Fire)	80	Neutral	20	30	+0	200
Tyranitar	61	Neutral	168	31	+0	200

Tier 4: 100-199

Pokémon	Base	Nature	EVs	IVs	Stage	Speed
Azumarill	50	Neutral	252	31	+0	199
Mega Mawile	50	Neutral	252	31	+0	199
Togekiss	80	Neutral	0	31	+0	196
Clefable	60	Neutral	136	31	+0	190
Heatran	77	Neutral	0	31	+0	190
Conkeldurr	45	Neutral	252	31	+0	189
Klefki	75	Neutral	0	31	+0	186
Mega Scizor	75	Neutral	0	31	+0	186
Seismitoad	74	Neutral	0	31	+0	184
Azumarill	50	Neutral	164	31	+0	177
Bisharp	70	Neutral	4	31	+0	177
Mega Mawile	50	Neutral	164	31	+0	177
Tyranitar	61	Neutral	76	31	+0	177
Bisharp	70	Neutral	0	31	+0	176
Mantine	70	Neutral	0	31	+0	176
Skarmory	70	Neutral	0	31	+0	176
Volcanion	70	Neutral	0	31	+0	176
Uxie	95	Negative	0	01	+0	176
Jellicent	60	Neutral	44	31	+0	167
Alomomola	65	Neutral	0	31	+0	166
Pelipper	65	Neutral	0	31	+0	166
Scizor	65	Neutral	0	31	+0	166
Seismitoad	74	Negative	0	31	+0	165
Aegislash	60	Neutral	16	31	+0	160
Clefable	60	Neutral	16	31	+0	160
Conkeldurr	45	Neutral	136	31	+0	160
Tyranitar	61	Neutral	0	31	+0	158
Cresselia	85	Negative	0	01	+0	158
Aegislash	60	Neutral	0	31	+0	156
Clefable	60	Neutral	0	31	+0	156
Jellicent	60	Neutral	0	31	+0	156
Porygon2	60	Neutral	0	31	+0	156
Blissey	55	Neutral	0	31	+0	146
Tyranitar	61	Negative	0	31	+0	142
Mega Heracross	75	Negative	0	01	+0	140
Alolan Muk	50	Neutral	0	31	+0	136
Azumarill	50	Neutral	0	31	+0	136
Mega Mawile	50	Neutral	0	31	+0	136
Chansey	50	Neutral	0	31	+0	136
Sableye	50	Neutral	0	31	+0	136
Hippowdon	47	Neutral	0	31	+0	130
Alomomola	65	Negative	0	01	+0	122
Tangrowth	50	Negative	0	31	+0	122
Gastrodon	39	Neutral	0	31	+0	114
Aegislash	60	Negative	0	01	+0	113
Porygon2	60	Negative	0	01	+0	113
Crawdaunt	55	Negative	0	01	+0	104
Gastrodon	39	Negative	0	31	+0	102

Tier 5: 99 and below

Pokémon	Base	Nature	EVs	IVs	Stage	Speed
Cofagrigus	30	Neutral	0	31	+0	96
Mega Slowbro	30	Neutral	0	31	+0	96
Reuniclus	30	Neutral	0	31	+0	96
Slowbro	30	Neutral	0	31	+0	96
Slowking	30	Neutral	0	31	+0	96
Amoonguss (HP Fire)	30	Neutral	0	30	+0	95
Mega Mawile	50	Negative	0	01	+0	95
Quagsire	35	Negative	0	31	+0	95
Alolan Marowak	45	Negative	0	01	+0	86
Amoonguss (HP Fire)	30	Negative	0	30	+0	85
Ferrothorn	20	Neutral	0	31	+0	76
Mega Sableye	20	Neutral	0	31	+0	76
Torkoal	20	Neutral	0	31	+0	76
Cofagrigus	30	Negative	0	01	+0	59
Slowbro	30	Negative	0	01	+0	59
Slowking	30	Negative	0	01	+0	59
Reuniclus	30	Negative	0	01	+0	59
Ferrothorn	20	Negative	0	01	+0	41

PRO PvP Viability Rankings (Updated on 05/12/2026)

Sat, 25 Jan 2025 00:00:51 +0000

PRO PvP Viability Rankings

by @Aggs, @Beachboybwustur, @Cyanirl, @Jorogumo, and @Pisforpenguin

Welcome to the PRO PvP Viability Rankings thread! This thread is maintained by the PvP Coordinator team and will be updated regularly, but we want to hear your thoughts and opinions on both the metagame at large and specific Pokémon. Please understand that viability rankings are fundamentally a subjective matter — and as such, opinions may certainly differ. Please note the following:

Usage is not the same as viability. Please do not nominate Pokémon on the grounds that they are frequently used.
Be detailed when submitting nominations for changes. It is difficult to convince anyone, us included, to change their mind with a one-liner.
All discussion is welcome, especially if you have personal experience laddering with a certain Pokémon for a substantial number of games.
Remain civil. While spirited and contentious debate is encouraged, please do not resort to personal attacks.

The following Pokémon are ranked in alphabetical order within each sub-tier:

S Rank:

S Rank

Landorus-Therian

S- Rank

Tornadus-Therian

A Rank:

A+ Rank

Clefable

Diancie-Mega

Dragonite

Lopunny-Mega

Volcarona

Zapdos

A Rank

Aegislash

Bisharp

Clodsire

Corviknight

Ferrothorn

Garchomp

Gliscor

Heatran

Kyurem

Kyurem-Black

Latios

Mawile-Mega

Metagross-Mega

Samurott-Hisui

Serperior

Tyranitar

A- Rank

Alakazam-Mega

Annihilape

Azumarill

Blacephalon

Excadrill

Gardevoir-Mega

Hatterene

Hoopa-Unbound

Keldeo

Latios-Mega

Manaphy

Scizor-Mega

Skarmory

Slowbro

Slowking

Sneasler

Ursaluna

Victini

Weavile

B Rank:

B+ Rank

Chansey

Charizard-Mega-X

Charizard-Mega-Y

Gyarados-Mega

Kommo-o

Latias-Mega

Ninetales-Alola

Rotom-Wash

Tyranitar-Mega

Venusaur-Mega

B Rank

Amoonguss

Breloom

Greninja

Hippowdon

Jirachi

Medicham-Mega

Moltres

Sableye-Mega

Suicune

Tangrowth

Thundurus

Tinkaton

Volcanion

B- Rank

Arcanine-Hisui

Altaria-Mega

Cresselia

Gallade-Mega

Heracross-Mega

Hydreigon

Latias

Magnezone

Mandibuzz

Mew

Pelipper

Pinsir-Mega

Porygon-Z

Reuniclus

Swampert-Mega

C Rank:

C+ Rank

Aerodactyl

Alakazam

Alomomola

Blissey

Crawdaunt

Diggersby

Ditto

Gengar

Mamowsine

Porygon2

Quagsire

Ribombee

Scizor

Thundurus-Therian

Togekiss

Uxie

C Rank

Cloyster

Conkeldurr

Garchomp-Mega

Gyarados

Hawlucha

Kingdra

Kleavor

Manectric-Mega

Marowak-Alola

Mimikyu

Muk-Alola

Slowbro-Mega

Terrakion

Torkoal

Venusaur

C- Rank

Aerodactyl-Mega

Azelf

Beedrill-Mega

Blastoise

Cofagrigus

Gallade

Gastrodon

Infernape

Klefki

Mantine

Nidoking

Pidgeot-Mega

Registeel

Seismitoad

Starmie

Tentacruel

Rate my Team PvP - Help to improve !

Mon, 20 Jul 2026 15:07:16 +0000

Hi everyone,

I'm currently building a Balance team centered around Mega Mawile.

Mawile @ Mawilite

Ability: Intimidate → Huge Power
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpDef

Play Rough
Sucker Punch
Thunder Punch
Swords Dance

Main win condition. Thunder Punch targets bulky Water-types such as Slowbro, Slowking, Pelipper, Mantine and Gyarados, as well as bulky Flying-types such as Corviknight and Skarmory.

Garchomp @ Rocky Helmet

Ability: Rough Skin
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP / 172 Def / 84 Spe

Stealth Rock
Earthquake
Dragon Tail
Toxic

Physical wall, hazard setter and contact punisher.

My Garchomp only has 24 Speed IV, so 84 Speed EVs are used to reach 254 Speed. This outspeeds maximum-Speed neutral-nature Pokémon up to base 77, most notably Heatran, which reaches 253. It also naturally outspeeds maximum-Speed neutral-nature Pokémon such as Tyranitar, Bisharp, Breloom, Magnezone and Scizor. The remaining EVs are invested in physical bulk.

Tangrowth @ Assault Vest

Ability: Regenerator
Nature: Sassy
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpDef

Giga Drain
Knock Off
Hidden Power FIRE
Earthquake

Main defensive pivot. The specially defensive Assault Vest investment complements Chansey while still allowing Tangrowth to check several physical Ground- and Water-types. Hidden Power FIRE, not the best I'd try HP ICE, but didn't find any Decente Tangrowth Sassy + Regen + HP ICE yet.

Hydreigon @ Choice Scarf

Ability: Levitate
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 SpAtk / 4 SpDef / 252 Spe

Draco Meteor
Dark Pulse
Flamethrower
U-turn

Speed control, revenge killer and potential late-game cleaner.

Chansey @ Eviolite

Ability: Natural Cure
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpDef

Soft-Boiled
Seismic Toss
Heal Bell
Toxic

Special wall. I didn't want to Teleport/Wish since it's banned in official ladder.

Sixth slot — currently testing

I initially used Latias (Draco Meteor, Defog, Roost and Healing Wish). However, it often feels too passive in practice and tends to slow down the team's momentum. Also it's a 3 Dragon type making the team even more sensible to ICE & Fairy Type (Weavile, Greninja, Diancie-M, Clefable, etc...)

I'm now considering Rotom-Wash, which could provide:

Volt Switch momentum
A better matchup against Landorus-T and other Ground-types
An additional Fire resistance
Will-O-Wisp support
Safer opportunities to bring in Mega Mawile or Hydreigon

The main drawback would be losing Defog and so Hazard control.

Do you have any feedback ? I don't really want to follow a meta or something, just to bring some balanceand consistancy to my team.

Only few PvP matches yet, already bored of Tornadus Landorus Diancie-M !

Any feedback is welcome. Thanks!

whats blastoise op best ev investment

Fri, 19 Aug 2016 03:38:26 +0000

should you ev train a blastoise on max hp max spec. def. ... or max spec. def & max def. ? whats more op tank

Normal ranked should have sound effects when a match is found

Mon, 13 Apr 2026 09:36:08 +0000

It would be nice if there's a sound effect when match is found just like when you missed a match. I don't know if its just me or if this has been suggested. But most of the time when I click on queue I would just alt tab or just go on my phone and immediately forgot I was in queue then I would just hear the dead sfx lmao.

SilverNabs Random Set Tracker

Sun, 19 Apr 2026 01:26:18 +0000

SilverNabs' Random Set Tracker

SilverNabs' proudly presents to you, our Random's Set Tracker! This tracker is put together through the combined efforts of our wonderful PvP players and data nerds!

The tracker can be accessed through a Google Sheet found here.

While not a comprehensive list of every random set for every Pokemon, this list includes older sets and newer sets alike and is still being actively updated as time goes on. The tracker contains the following information:

OBE

Pokemon Number

Pokemon Name (Pokemon Name - Mega [if the set is a mega set])

Primary and Secondary Typing

Level

Held Item

Ability

Speed

Moves 1 - 4

To efficiently navigate the tracker, it is recommended to control + f and the search the specific Pokemon. Once you have located the Pokemon, look at the levels and match them to what you see in the tracker. Once you determine the n sets it could be, then you will be able to determine what Pokemon you are against. Once again, this tracker is not all inclusive and sets are missing.

Currently sitting at over 1800 recorded sets, this list will continue to grow as more data comes in. If you wish to contribute to this list, feel free to comment on this post with a screenshot of the Pokémon's inspection card. Moves, Stats, Ability, and Item Must be included to be added. SilverNabs' thanks you for any contribution.

Finally, SilverNabs' is not a PvP focused guild but we do place on the PvP ladder. If you would like to join, whether interested in PvP or not, feel free to comment on our recruitment thread found here.

Huge Credits to the following people that helped lift this project off the ground!

Shishagames, Gio, Txmpo, 50sentret, Hasibubu, Spa8as, Kellsbelles, Ovmplayz, Pikalazeee, Shadow2054, Mysticwind, WeepiestEnd4, Biwakkit

PP stall guidance

Tue, 05 May 2026 10:14:55 +0000

Many times I have been PP staled in Ranked PVP with the following scenarios:

Corviknight with Rocky Helmet item and moveset:

Defog,

Iron Defense,

Roost,

Body Press

against Marowak-Alolan with Shadow Bone (to not make contact)

and Suicune with moveset:

Calm Mind,

Rest,

Sleep Talk,

Scald

against Seismitoad with Water Absorb ability. Wanted to ask if this PP stalling is OK according to PVP rules?

Machao's Post of the Year 2025

Thu, 01 Jan 2026 04:58:12 +0000

Let me start by saying I hope to continue doing this next year. That is, if I continue playing next year. This year of PRO has been a lot of fun at times, and not a lot of fun at other times. I try too hard sometimes to try to prove each team is "worthy," and at times, this feels a bit forceful and time consuming, leading to many games to be played that shouldn't have been played. But, regardless, it has been fun talking to my fellow friends/teambuilders/partners in crime in chat and discussing with them the pros and cons of each team and how to improve it. I think with the new additions (boots, new pokemons), it's time to move on from these teams.

I know a lot of people on ladder like to "copy" my teams already, and I know there are a lot of bootleg teams out there. Most of them probably got the teams pretty close to correct. But hey, nothing beats the real thing right. I am posting them because I don't mind people using them to play, but I am really really hoping that I can reach a couple of you teambuilders and inspire new ideas. Please keep in mind these teams might not feel very effective in pvp because they are relics of the past. I will try to link every team with a season, but my memory is very hazy and I skipped some months, so I will probably not be getting all of them correct.

January PVP Season

Pokepaste:
1)
☆☆ https://pokepast.es/a710f104e2140d35
2)
☆☆☆☆ https://pokepast.es/c872e403fa475a68
This is the season after my return to PRO. Technically, I returned in December, but I don't even remember what I used. This season, I set out to build the best team I could possibly build and try to see if I can take first. The first team I tried was 1). I remember halfway through the season (not sure why) I decided to switch to my new team. Probably due to the hippowdon team being a bit too slow for my liking.
I think team 2) serves as the foundation of all my future teambuilds. I didn't realize it at that time, but about the only team I will play is BO. And central to BO is essentially a good defensive core, a good scarfer, and offensive pokemons that usually have good defensive utilities. The goal isn't to win as fast as possible, but it is also not to stack up on as many defensive pokemons as possible. So pokemons with good defensive abilities are important. You'll see this come up time and time again. A scarfer is important because it patches up the issue that most BOs have, which is being too slow. In addition, almost all scarfers have some sort of ability to use trick or switcheroo, which is very important to shut down any setup sweepers and help with the consistency of the team.
I am not exactly sure if this is the case, but I think January was the first season Slowking with chilly reception was released. And this pokemon, imo, was meta-changing. It completely hardstops one of the pokemons that was terrorizing the metagame, keldeo. It is a defensive pokemon, but it gained the ability to tank a hit, regen, and switch. Momentum is a very necessary thing in maintaining pressure in bulky offense. In addition, the ability to future sight, is vital to forcing progress. Something like skarmory will struggle against a future sight in the air in addition to a +2 knock or HJK.
I also remember wanting to build with blacephalon due to some outbreaks. With these two pokemons set, the rest is pretty self-explanatory. Tangrowth completes the perfect synergy FWG core and deals with physical attackers. Tangrowth might seem like a weird pick given its lack of usage in PRO, but it functions very solidly here. I am not sure if Skarmory gets body-press back then, but even if it does, Tangrowth still helps with things like Dragonite and Bisharp by threatening Sleep Powder. In addition, it is a progress maker with knock—off, and deals with the ever-annoying ferrothorn through HP-fire as opposed to Skarmory, who gets leech-seeded and might be placed into a rough spot. Landorus rounds up the team with rocks defog (which might seem a little stupid), and lures in Zapdos with Z-rock, which helps with lopunny and bisharp. In addition, it aids tangrowth to ensure it doesn’t get overloaded.
Lopunny is the fast attacker that threatens faster pokemons with fake-out spam and bisharp is a slower setup sweeper that has amazing defensive utility against most things. An eviolite bisharp is crucial as both means of offense and defense, as it makes it kind of like a mini kingambit that was incredibly hard to switch into, even for Zapdos. Against anything not called skarmory or garchomp, worse comes to worse, Bisharp can stay in and kill in a 1-for-1 trade. Lastly, blacephalon is the scarfer that can just shadow spam to snowball out of control, and punish opponents without either a scarfer or a normal/dark type.
Recurring themes that I struggled to build against are BD azu (very common in PRO), keldeo, kommo-o, mega-diancie, kyurem, bisharp, and volcarona. For this team, having slowking on the team implicitly checks the latter 4, whereas BD azu feels fine with bisharp, helmet tangrowth, and lopunny with fake outs. Volcarona is probably mostly fine with two priority users and landorus, and is likely as much of an insurance as you are going to get (gosh I hate this pokemon). Bisharp is also super annoying to build against, but tangrowth mostly deals with it just fine, and at worse is a 1-1 trade. Lopunny and my own bisharp help significantly. Overall, one of the most solid teams I have built.

February PVP Season

Pokepaste:

☆☆ https://pokepast.es/083ddc9d0ce282e9
Contrary to the teamname, Heracross is not the goat. This was the season where fatter teams were picking up in usage, so I thought Heracross could be a cool pokemon to use. Give Heracross some bulk, and it would be incredibly hard to break its substitute. Most landorus will struggle to break its substitute because doing so likely means hitting stone edge, which heracross would likely get up sword dances during the process. With teleport and the success of slowking, I thought it would be cool to use a defensive core where two pokemons can simultaneously tank a hit and run away to gain a more favorable matchup, but that was not as effective as I thought. Slowking is as effective as ever, but telling clefable to do this seems to be wishful thinking. Clefable itself is not a bulky pokemon, and its use means you are constantly forced to Wish. In addition, even if you wish, you are forced into a dilemma between healing your teammate or keeping yourself healthy. If we go down the machao’s nemesis checklist, “BD azu (very common in PRO), keldeo, kommo-o, mega-diancie, kyurem, bisharp, and volcarona,” you’ll see we are probably even more solid against them some of the pokemons compared to last season. However, bisharp is a huge problem for our team because of iron-head flinches, against heracross, life orb sucker punch against garchomp once it sets up. Volcarona is also hard to deal with and relies on rocks being up to beat it. In addition, one thing I struggled with this season was serperior, which can tear through my team with leaf storms. Aegislash also wasn’t as solid of a clefable answer as I thought… it struggled to break through it with flash cannon. Since it was my last and only line of defense against clefable, I had to switch it to iron head, and even then it was not great… I didn’t like this team as much because it felt matchup-y in the sense that, yes it is good into most things, but common stuff like bisharp, serperior, and clefable were very annoying to deal with, and to me that is a big failure as a teambuilder.

March PVP Season

Pokepaste:

☆☆☆☆☆ https://pokepast.es/429ae1d640b6a359
This is the best team I’ve built. Probably so far and in the future. It is creative, innovative, and just cool. Sash explosion landorus is standard for these types of teams. But we have a scarfer in keldeo, which can win on its own, a speed-boosting blacephalon, which can win on its own, bisharp and mawile offensive core, which can win on its own, and as extra insurance, Cresselia, who can heal any one of them and get us a second chance if anything messes up. In addition, we have the option to set trick room in an emergency situation, healing and getting either Mawile or bisharp in to do big damage.
I remember one of the biggest problems for this team was keldeo. It clicks scald and wins. A common trick I had to do was explode landorus on keldeo for a 1 for 1 exchange. Rotom-wash was also very annoying to deal with as landorus was my primary volt-blocker and none of the other pokemons appreciated a will-o-wisp.
The objective of this team is to win as fast as possible, using one of the 4 means after getting rocks up. If one doesn’t work, try another one until it works. It is surprisingly easy for blacephalon to set up and run away with the game because most people assume it is choice-scarf. With a Z as a nuke, you can easily get +1 speed, which opponents will struggle to deal with. Calm-mind, along with hp invest, gives it decent bulk to work with most of the time.
If you take a look at the team, it is stacked with attackers. So how do we guarantee we have a way of dealing with almost everything? This role is placed on the movesets and evs of our pokemons. As opposed to the standard sets, bisharp was tailored for outspeeding adamant azumarill and living an aqua jet at +6. Kommo-o was beaten through setting trick room, mega-diancie through trick room or scarf keldeo, or any of the steel types trading one for one then being lunar-danced back. Kyurem was 1v1 through cresselia moonblast, Bisharp was beaten through keldeo, substitute blacephalon, or brick break hyper cutter mawile to not give it an attack boost upon switching in. Volcarona is beaten by scarf keldeo with stone edge. With all these backup plans in case things go wrong and the ability to exert so much offensive pressure, this is truly one of the best teams I’ve ever built.
One thing that I did struggle against but didn’t face was some sort of mega-latias + muk + skarmory stall. If muk somehow takes out blacephalon, it will be extremely difficult to break through skarmory. Just those two might be fine due to keldeo, but the addition of mega-latias makes it near impossible to play against. Special thanks to idkup for pointing it out, but I am glad that I didn’t face this combination.

May PVP Season

Pokepaste:

☆☆☆ https://pokepast.es/2ed139bd47dbcec9
This was the season alomomola starts showing up, and I severely underestimated how good it was. This was also the season where slowking comes back, and my goated ursaluna set came to fruition. The reason why I used beedrill was not because of a dare, or a challenge. I just remember building the rest of the team and wanting a fast pokemon to round the team out. And somehow, it just worked.
I think the team worked because of how fat the meta is. Beedrill is not very hard hitting, but being able to put down a toxic spikes early in the game plays dividends in the long run. With how many molas and skarmory and landorus (as usual) running around, placing down a toxic spikes breaks down these molas core easily. Due to beedrill’s super low hp, endeavor is a nuke after it takes 2 rounds of rocks against defensive teams.
Now, a bit about rest-talk luna: it also was kind of a surprise. I was just at first thinking if façade works under sleep, which I don’t believe it does. However, I still tried rest-talk to see if that is the case to not only give it longevity, but also power when asleep. I realize that one of the most common struggles with ursaluna is it just hitting into rocky helmets and chipping itself to death with flame orb. Hence, we want to give ursaluna longevity by giving it maximum hp and the ability to heal up against fat and passive teams.
This ursaluna set is imo the best set on PRO right now. Against offense, the way to use it is to trade it 1 for 1 for their most annoying pokemon. Ursaluna’s bulk enables it to do that. Against stall, ursaluna becomes a damage dealing machine, hitting pokemons with conjunction with future sight until they break.
Honestly, that’s mostly all I want to talk about for this team. The rest of the team, unfortunately, is not that great. They are more so members necessary to round up the team. Skarmory feels pretty broken at that time because no one knows what it does. I remember hoopa were starting to show up around this time, so bisharp really helps with it. It is a fun team and I am glad I got 1st with it, but I don’t know if I will queue with it again.

August PVP Season

Pokepaste:

☆ https://pokepast.es/ba3191dc6b971595
I hate this team and I don’t want to talk about it. In short, I tried to build something that would stop alomomola, felt like gastrodon was a good pick, went with it, and it ended up being very mid because it couldn’t set hazards. I struggled a bit this season quite frankly, and I was traveling so I couldn’t really think much about PRO. If you see any machao teams that ended up with weird stuff like occa berry ferrothorn, you know something ended up very wrong.
** Brief Aside
This was also the season I felt diancie-m was pretty broken (one of the best megas in game at least). It is faster than everything, has a stab that is hard to resist outside of ferrothorn and pretty much nothing else. This made me think I had to build a team with Diancie, and diancie itself ended up pretty good, but was not necessarily the easiest to pilot with mola eating up every attack. Sub keldeo was also due to mola, but mola and latios would just do these flip turns into and out of keldeo to break its sub, which I felt was very very oppressive.
This season was just awful to play against because 1) everyone just uses alomomola flip and 2) everyone has some sort of build with scarf latios + hoopa unbound for wall breaking other alomomola. When there is a universal best team / best core such as this, I think the enabler, aka alomomola, has to be dealt with. And I am very glad that ended up being the case.

September PVP Season

Pokepaste:

☆☆☆ https://pokepast.es/81708401d167b44d
I don’t know why this is the team most people on gold server probably know me by (judging by the amount of people who copy it), but I am not happy with that. If you want a good team, go copy the best team I’ve ever built. Not some altaria bs.
Ok, I have a love-hate relationship with this team. If you are an astute reader, you will probably realize that this team is exactly the same as the beedrill team except it has altaria over it. This was not initially intended. It seems like I just end up using the same pokemons because of how solid they are.
Altaria is a cool pokemon I wanted to build with. I felt like the modest set is most solid, because its typing checks so many things that are problematic under my list such as kommo-o and bd-azu. In fact, its speed is specifically ev-d to outspeed bd azu. I recall the special defense is for beating mega-charizard-y and volcarona reliably. I considered fire blast or flamethrower over toxic, and while it is useful at times, being able to spread status around as a midground is also very useful.
The rest of the team pretty much functions the same as before. I felt like beedrill wouldn’t be as useful this season due to the lack of alomomolas. On paper, this is the most solid team I’ve ever built. However, this team is extremely prone to hax. I have gotten my skarmory crit so many times when all it needs to do is let off a game winning body press.
**Brief Aside
I remember I once almost crashed out because this team has the freest matchup against poppachav (Team: Victini, Registeel, beedrill, mandibuzz… forgot the last two). Pretty much, I got hard counters versus victini in slowking, and other than that, the rest of his team loses against skarmory. Well, to beat him, I would need to get into an iron defense war versus registeel. First game against Poppachav, I lost the iron defense war due to a critical hit. Then, since he was in range of tornadus heatwave, I went to tornadus and missed the heatwave as he rested. After that, I had no way of killing his registeel… Second game, I had to get into an iron defense war again and got a critical hit again… That made me so pissed and I almost quit playing Pokemon.
This is why I hated this team. Even when the odds were completely in my favor, bullsh*t like this keeps happening and I would lose rating. It was already incredibly hard to gain rating when you are 400 points above everyone else you are playing, so losing in this manner was just incredibly frustrating.
Another version of this team featured terrakion. Fearing that bisharp was too slow and still wanting a fighting resist, terrakion is a solid replacement. Unfortunately, terrakion is a pretty inconsistent pokemon. Sure it is speedier, but it doesn’t outrun the crucial 110 base speed, speed tier to deal with metagross, something bisharp handles much better. In addition, running terrakion means handing it the z-move and switching tornadus-t to some life orb variant, which didn’t end up working too well.
That is why I think this is a turning point. I swear to never run a team so slow ever again. If I need to get into a setup war against my opponent to win, then fine, I will do it. But I don’t want this to be consistently my only out against my opponent’s teams. In the future teams, you will see that I modified my style of bulky offense a bit such that it is not so slow and treading towards balance anymore. There is a more well-defined defensive core and the guaranteed presence of a scarfer (favorite scarfer incoming…).

October PVP Season

Pokepaste:
1)
☆☆☆ https://pokepast.es/00f17600af703bab
2)
☆☆☆☆ https://pokepast.es/03b70461352dd163
October is the ash-gren month, and the month where sneasler and clodsire were added. I ended up using two different teams, both of which feature a mawile ash-gren core. I honestly don’t have much to say regarding this month other than the fact that ash-gren is pretty broken. It is speedy and extremely difficult to switch into. The fact that it can run spikes or drop it for u-turn or ice-beam to hit pokemons that would otherwise resist it for big damage is just insanely powerful.
I think the teambuilding philosophy for these types of season is simple: put an ash-gren on your team, pair it with a powerful mega (mawile or lopunny seems to be good), and add an ash gren resist in ferrothorn, tangrowth, or amoonguss. I guess because this month added clodsire, clodsire works too, and is probably one of the best pokemons to pick against ash-gren. Regardless, once you have these components on your team, you can finally start thinking about the rest of the team.
I honestly don’t really remember too much about what happened when building just because this month was a mess. I switched my team because I ended up really wanting to use sneasler, and sneasler honestly fits perfectly with the second team, providing tons of offensive pressure in close combat that threatens poison, uturn that threatens poison, and a scarf trick that shuts down defensive cores. This core does not necessitate a choice specs greninja as one thing I found was that mawile and sneasler likely completes this job already. Hence a waterium-z set was chosen for ease of setting spikes and the ability to switch moves.
Sneasler is what I believe is the best scarfer in the game right now. It outspeeds adamant drill under sand, all other scarfers, and is pretty much the fastest option that still does very significant damage with close combat. The fact that it can easily lure in landorus-t and threaten a poison is also incredible. The only thing that I dislike about it compared to other scarfers is its bulk has something left to be desired, but it is just fast, hard-hitting, and consistent. This team deserves a 4-star because of sneasler. Shoutout to my fellow sneasler appreciators out there <3.
I remember this was the month where clodsire stall picked up, with some clodsire, mega latias, clef, skarmory, annhilape, alomomola (?) type of team, which was run by the vn guild basculin. And at that time, I felt like that was a very very good team. It seemed to consistently beat a lot of the offensive cores centered around ash-gren with clodsire and alomomola completely nullifying it. I am happy to see stall pick up slightly (not that I want to use it, but for the balancing of the metagame), because of how utterly bad it was for the past couple of months. However, the main reason why I brought this up is because I was told by some vn guild member (who is on the ladder btw) to sit after losing against this team, and then I beat him 3 times in a row after… So maybe don’t talk so much [heck] in the future.

November PVP Season

Pokepaste:

☆☆☆☆ https://pokepast.es/363bd8e7a677a86d
This is the last season I will be covering, and the only season I did on silver. I moved to silver to test to see how well I will do in silver. And honestly, I did fairly well but also suffered a lot.
I really like this team. I think bold volcarona is very good and potentially an oppressive existence. The fact that this mon can act as both an offensive and defensive behemoth… this ability is second to none. In addition, there are pretty much no priorities that can kill it in one. The strongest one I can think of, banded crawdaunt aqua jet, only does around 85% to this volcarona spread.
I think this team combines a lot of the conclusions I reached over the past few months. Need a fat, hard-hitting ground type that destroys fat, check. Need something for keldeo and latios, check. Need a near unswitchable existence and a fairy type? Get diancie on the team (In reality this mon struggled a bit due to the addition of clodsire, so I had to reassess my take a bit. However, clodsire is a free switch in for ursaluna). How to make the team more broken? Put a volcarona on the team.
I will say that mandibuzz is a bit of a special pick. Why not zapdos or skarmory? In terms of pure physical bulk, I feel like mandibuzz was the bulkiest pokemon I’ve run. The ability to do significant damage with foul play is very desirable. However, that doesn’t explain why choose it over the pivoting ability zapdos provides or the spikes skarmory gives. Part of the reason is because 1) Mandibuzz is especially good against breloom, blocking it with its overcoat ability. 2) Psychic types such as mega-alakazam can be extremely problematic to the team otherwise. 3) I want to have extra insurance in toxic vs. volcaronas I could face. Mandibuzz does not seem like that good of a pick, but against a neutral hit, for example, ursaluna, mandibuzz takes the hit much better than zapdos. It also has the added benefit of completing walling hoopa-unbound.
Iron defense is also completely mandatory. Yes, there is no body press, but Iron defense turns games against setup pokemons like swampert or even mawile on its head, beating them by taking advantage of their attack boosts. It is also a very good late game win-con against ho teams that stack on physical attackers such as dragonite, bisharp, and breloom.
On silver, I faced many clodsire and skarmory cores. It was kind of a struggle, because clodsire would wall diancie, and ursaluna would be walled by skarm. To break this loop, some sort of future-sight play is necessary, but in the process, slowking could get toxic’d, and hazards could go up. It is pretty annoying to play against and honestly a failure on my part to predict this meta-trend. However, I think with good play, this was completely manageable.
The biggest problem for this team is bd azumarill. Holy [heck] this was bad. Once it belly drums up, how do I deal with it? 200 speed mandibuzz foul play. Yeah, there is literally no counter play otherwise. It’s not like my other pokemons kill it in 1 hit (except ursaluna) so this was usually the only way. It requires a lot of skillful playing and managing to beat it.
I have to get into why I hate silver server now. Let me just say I like how it is more competitive than gold and its queue time is lower. I am not one to shy away from competition. But, I hate counter-teaming, I think it is the lowest of the low. Someone told me to queue on silver, you need 3 teams, because certain people who intentionally look at your rating change, and snipe you with their counter team. And to be honest, they are right. I’ve been sniped again and again, until I thought it was time to stop queueing or avoid certain people because of how dedicated they are to sniping.
Let me give you an example. After beating this said person, I was sniped by specs protean greninja (which is bad enough), in addition to adamant azumarill, and rock slide metagross. Obviously, I lost once, but I was able to overcome that deficit after knowing what to look out for in the following game. Then the person changed to jolly azumarill. Yep, instant loss.
As another example, I was sniped by triple scarf + some crawdaunt, which my team does not deal with. Triple scarf is just unscientific, particularly after I beat the opponent once already.
In addition to all that, my hatred to silver was probably exacerbated by the fact that I was juggling school projects, trying to get first place on the silver ladder, and getting immensely sick for 2 weeks of November. I was so close to getting 600 on the ladder (I think I reached 590), until some guy who lose to volcarona paralyzed it with scarf glare serperior like 4 turns in a row so I can’t get 1 singular roost off and I had to see it die to a nidoking at +3 spA and spD boosts. I was so incredibly frustrated that I probably threw a couple games. And after that the sickness hit and the sniping hit and the rest is history.
I think I am still pretty proud of how this team did. I expected it to be competitive, and most players are competitive in a good way, but it was just a select few who are sullying the rest. I think the main difference between gold and silver is simply skill level, and significantly less hyper offense to deal with. Silver teams trend on the bulky side, with a decent number of stall, but I was able to dispatch those successfully. There was also more rain.
This is why I am avoiding silver in the future, and you likely won’t see me there anymore. I can accept losing to people legitimately, and people making adjustments on how they play, but changing teams just to beat one person is just wrong… I think in a tournament setting, I can accept that because scouting is part of a 1v1 gameplay. But a ladder (this is only possible in pro because the ladder is not active), is not meant for you to target one singular player, so you shouldn’t just swap your team out for 10 minutes and replace it with something else after 20.

This pretty much sums up everything for this year. I will not be publishing my December team just yet since the season has not ended… that will likely have to wait until next year. I would like to thank a couple people for the support to lead to success I had this year. Specifically, Jorogumo, who helped with the teambuilding process, banklas and cyan, who lent me a lot of pokemons which I otherwise would take years to garner, and mcnutt and scrub, who sacrificed their win rate to help me test my teams to see if they could be successful. I can’t express the amount of gratitude especially to Joro for listening to me in my dms and going down checklists with me to see how the team can be improved. And I can’t express the amount of fun (and sorrow) sometimes I had with banklas, Joro, and scrub when we talk about pvp together.
We are just right around 5000 words, and this was much longer than I intended it to be. However, if you reached this point, I hope you had a good read, please take my teams and use them as you like, and hope to see you in 2026.

How to save the pro metagame?!

Thu, 09 Apr 2026 03:05:34 +0000

The current state of PRO’s competitive scene could be significantly improved with a few key additions and changes. Here’s a structured look at what could truly revitalize the metagame:

1. Encourage Creativity

The metagame feels limited due to a lack of strategic variety. Adding certain items would open up new playstyles and mind games:

Eject Pack – enables momentum-based strategies after stat drops
Eject Button – punishes contact and allows reactive switching

➡️ These additions would reward innovation and reduce repetitive team structures.

2. Reduce RNG Impact

Too many matches are decided by chance rather than skill. Introducing tools that mitigate RNG would improve competitive integrity:

Protective Pads – avoids contact-based effects (like Static, Flame Body)
Punching Glove – boosts punching moves and removes contact
Close Combat – reliable, strong move without RNG reliance

➡️ Less RNG = more skill expression.

3. Break Defensive Cores

Bulky cores dominate too easily. We need stronger tools to punish passive play:

Nasty Plot – boosts special sweepers
Weather Ball – improves weather-based offense
Psychic Fangs – breaks screens and hits hard
Close Combat – pressures defensive Pokémon effectively

➡️ Offense needs better ways to break through stall and balance

Pokémon Impact Analysis

Wouldn’t Change Much (But Would Be Fun)

These Pokémon wouldn’t reshape the meta, but would add flavor and diversity:

Buzzwole
Tatsugiri
Galar Pokémon (in general)
Stakataka
Grafaiai

Would Partially Change the Metagame

These would shift team building and introduce new cores or threats:

Dondozo
Toxapex
Primarina
Glimmora
Celesteela
Quaquaval
Skeledirge
Incineroar
Galar Birds (Zapdos, Moltres, Articuno)
Poison-type Legendaries

Would Completely Change the Metagame

These additions would redefine the competitive landscape:

Kartana
Gholdengo
Ceruledge
Tapus (terrain setters)
Rillaboom
Pecharunt
Meowscarada
Galarian Slowking
Extra: Terrain Seeds

From Passion To Production [A Website For Players That New To PvP]

Mon, 09 Mar 2026 10:49:20 +0000

Hello everyone! This is my first time creating a topic in the PvP section. My name is M1dnight, and this is the story of my Rate My Team (RMT) PvP website, designed primarily for the Pokémon Revolution Online (PRO) new PvP players.

↳ M1dnight - National Dex OU ↲

Picture 1: A first look at M1dnight - National Dex OU Homepage

Picture 2: Pokémon Listing

Who is "M1dnight"?

So, who am I? I’m just a kid who fell in love with Pokémon at a very young age. At 10 years old, I already had a passion for the world of Pokémon. By 17, I discovered Pokémon Revolution Online (PRO), which opened up my whole new way to play Pokémon. Now, at 23, that passion hasn't faded, it's only grown. I still carry that same excitement for the Pokémon franchise and the strong bond I’ve built with the game as well as the community. That bond is exactly what inspired me to build a website for new players looking into the PvP arena: M1dnight - National Dex OU.

Why did you decide to work on this project?

I still remember the first time I tried PvP, that thrill was just "different" compared to battling NPCs or wild Pokémon. It pushed me to research more about competitive play, which led me to the Smogon Forums. Smogon is where the pros go, and it’s an incredible resource but I’ll never forget how it felt the first time I visited. I was completely overwhelmed. There were so many categories, redirects, links and breadcrumbs,... on a single page that it took me nearly two months just to get used to the layout.

Later, when I introduced my new friends to Smogon so they could learn more and improve their PvP skills as well as teambuilding, I saw the same thing happen to them. They were eager to learn, but the "wall of information" made them lose interest. Most of them just got bored or frustrated. I started wondering: What if I could build a website that offers the same depth as Smogon RMT, but with a simpler, more attractive interface for younger players and beginners? That’s the reason why I started this project.

What is the website all about?

The target users are players who are new to PvP and don't know where to start or how to build a team. The website not only just a list of teams, it’s a place to understand how they work.

Why are these specific Pokémon chosen?
What are their specialized roles and capabilities?
How does the team handle threats in the meta?

The site includes detailed analysis sections for each Pokémon, a breakdown of the team-building process, a list of major threats to watch out for, and proof of peak (showing that the team actually works). It’s all the professional depth you’d expect from Smogon, but delivered in a way that is much easier to digest.

Picture 3: Team building process of a post

Picture 4: Usage tip/Description of each Pokémon

Picture 5: Major Threats and Team Details Summary

But We Already Got Smogon RMT. Why Just Not Use It? You Wasted Your Time Making This!

I know what some of you might be thinking: "Why waste time building this when Smogon RMT already exists?" It’s a fair question. If my goal were to replace Smogon, it would be a waste of time. But that’s not the point. Think of Smogon as a university-level encyclopedia, it’s deep, legendary, and the ultimate source of truth. My site is more like a "Quick-Start Guide." I built this specifically to bridge the gap for players who find the encyclopedia intimidating. If this site helps even five new players feel confident enough to eventually use Smogon and join the competitive scene, then every hour I spent coding was worth it. This isn't a replacement, it’s a stepping stone.

The Technical Side

To make the site as fast and smooth as possible, I built it using a modern stack:

Framework: Next.js 16 and React 19 for a seamless, "app-like" feel.
Database & Auth: Supabase, which handles our team data and user sessions.
Styling: Tailwind CSS 4 and Framer Motion for those smooth animations that make the site feel "alive" and attractive to younger players.

Pros & Cons

Pros:
- Beginner-Friendly Strategy: Instead of just data-dumping stats, the site focuses on "strategic storytelling"—explaining the why behind every team choice.
- Pro-Level Visuals: Full integration with Showdown sprites and PokeAPI ensures every Poké-card looks clean, professional, and familiar.
- Built for Speed: Using Next.js 16 means the site is incredibly fast and responsive, whether you're researching teams on your PC or checking a matchup on your phone.
- Community-First & Verified: Every team includes a "Proof of Peak" section, so you know the strategies have actually been tested and proven on the ladder.
- Dedicated to our Meta: Unlike broad platforms, this is built specifically with the PRO community in mind, focusing on the National Dex OU format we love.
Cons:
- Unseen Bugs: As a solo developer, I’ve tested as much as I can, but there may be bugs I haven't encountered yet. I’ve included a Report and Feedback section in the footer. If you find any erros, glitches or even simple grammar mistakes, please don't hesitate to let me know. I'll be looking into every report to give you the best experience possible!
- Performance Scaling: The site currently pulls API data from Gen 1 all the way to Legends Z-A. While I’ve optimized it for now, I’m still monitoring how it will handle performance as the project scales up.
- Movepool Inaccuracies: Because our current API is based on Gen 9 SV movesets, some Pokémon might be missing moves that are legal in National Dex OU (like Alomomola's Toxic). If you notice a missing move that should be there, send me a ticket, and I will add it to the database!

The Road Ahead

This is just the beginning! I also have plans for improvements, including:

Data Optimization: I plan to remove Uber-tier Pokémon from the main data pool to make the website's performance even smoother and more focused on the OU meta.
Real-time Usage Data: If it is possible to connect with the PRO Development Team, I would like to work with them to pull real-time usage data. This would allow the site to automatically track which Pokémon are trending in the meta every month.
Manual Tiering: If a direct connection isn't possible, I will manually configure a "Tier" section, sorting Pokémon so you can easily see who is currently at the top of the meta.
User Profiles: I’m working on a function that lets you view your own profile (and others). You’ll be able to see post statistics, avatars, likes, comments, and joined dates to help build our community further.

A Quick Tour of the Site

Before I wrap this up, I want to show you more what to expect. Here are another overview screenshots of the website in action, so you can see the results of my progress!

Picture 6: Login page

Picture 7: Register page

Picture 8,9 & 10: Team Building and Analysis section

Picture 11: Profile page

Picture 12: Save Posted page

Picture 13: Help & Feedback page

Conclusion

I want to be very clear: I have nothing but respect for the Smogon community. Smogon has been my guide for years, and without it, I wouldn’t be the player I am today. My project isn't about competing with or "downgrading" what Smogon has built, that would be impossible! Instead, I want to take the high-level strategies they’ve perfected and make them more accessible for new PRO players. Finally, I hope this website helps you find the same excitement in PvP that I found years ago and thank you for reading! Have a great day everyone.

Is Building Random Pokémon Teams Actually Making You Better at the Game?

Mon, 02 Mar 2026 02:48:50 +0000

I used to copy strong teams from top players. They worked, but I didn’t feel like I was improving much. I was just following what was already built.

Then I started generating random teams and playing with whatever I got.

At first, it felt awkward. Strange type overlaps. Pokémon I never normally pick. No perfect synergy. But it forced me to think more carefully about matchups, switching, and basic team balance.

Instead of chasing perfect builds, I focused on simple questions:

Do I have type coverage?
Do I have something fast?
Do I have something bulky?
Can I switch safely?

Random teams pushed me to adapt instead of relying on comfort picks.

I’m curious about others here.

Have random teams helped you improve?
Do you keep the full team as generated, or do you adjust one or two slots?

I’d like to hear how different players approach this.

LIST OF BROKEN MOVES, ABILITIES & ITEMS IN PRO

Tue, 13 Feb 2024 00:36:36 +0000

MOVES

NOT CODED
Spoiler

[PRO PvP] BEST Pokemon October 2025 [silver]

Thu, 27 Nov 2025 08:14:52 +0000

Diancie 56.76%
Clodsire 56.22%
Hoopa-Unbound 55.86%
Latios 55.36%
Landorus-Therian 54.99%
Breloom 54.21%
Ditto 54.09%
Zapdos 54.07%
Keldeo 53.43%
Skarmory 53.18%
Aegislash 52.89%
Kommo-o 52.18%
Tornadus-Therian 51.79%
Lopunny 51.78%
Manaphy 51.28%
Clefable 50.83%
Heatran 50.91%
Scizor 50.75%
Ferrothorn 50.04%
Mimikyu 50.40%

The ranking highlights the 20 highest winrate Pokémon on the Silver Server for October 2025, based on official usage and performance data.

Data Source: Silver Server – October 2025

• Compiled and formatted by Vegetarox

PvP Set Viability Rankings

Sat, 01 Feb 2025 04:25:19 +0000

PRO Set Viability Tier List

By Aggs, Cyanirl, Jorogumo, and Pisforpenguin

Welcome to the Set Viability Tier List. This resources ranks the common sets for each of the Pokémon found currently on the VR Thread. Please note these are not the only sets each of these Pokémon may run, however this can be considered a guide for new players helping them find useful sets for certain mons. Also take in consideration that the best set for every mon will not be the best for every team, for example if you just pull the best ranked set for the 6 mons you want to play you may not end up with a functional team. You may also find yourself in places when teambuilding where you need a set that is not listed on our rankings and that is also perfectly fine, do not feel pressured to use only ranked set. We encourage feedback from the community and if you feel any important sets are missing please feel free to mention them in this thread.

S Rank:

S Rank

Clefable

Magic Guard Calm Mind: S

Stealth Rock: S

Unaware Calm Mind: A+

Unaware Cleric: A+

Offensive: A

Landorus-T

Choice Scarf: S

Defensive Stealth Rock: S

Offensive Stealth Rock: S

Suicide Lead: A

Dual Dance: B

A Rank:

A+ Rank

Aegislash

Offensive: A+

Sub Toxic: A

Swords Dance: A

Bisharp

Eviolite: A+

Black Glasses: A-

Pursuit: A-

Diancie-Mega

All-Out Attacker: A+

Offensive Endeavor: A+

Offensive Stealth Rock: A+

Substitute Endeavor: A-

Dragonite

Bulky Dragon Dance: A+

Offensive Dragon Dance: A+

Fly Z: A

Choice Band: B+

Kyurem

SubRoost: A+

Choice Specs: A-

Roost 3 Attacks: A-

Lopunny-Mega

Offensive: A+

Tornadus-T

Assault Vest: A+

Z-move: A+

Rocky Helmet: A

Offensive: A-

Volcarona

Boots Defensive: A+

Boots Offensive: A

SubSwarm: B+

Z: B+

Zapdos

Physically Defensive: A+

Offensive: A

A Rank

Clodsire

Water Absorb: A

Unaware: A-

Corviknight

Defensive: A

Ferrothorn

Utility: A

Garchomp

Offensive: A

Offensive Stealth Rock: A

Physically Defensive: A-

Choice Scarf: B+

Gliscor

Stallbreaker: A

Utility: B+

Heatran

Offensive: A

Specially Defensive: A

Choice Scarf: B+

Kyurem-B

Icium Z: A

Choice Scarf: B+

Choice Band B

Offensive: B

Latios

Choice Scarf: A

Choice Specs: B+

Offensive: B+

Mawile-Mega

Swords Dance: A

All-Out Attacker: A-

Metagross-Mega

All-Out Attacker: A

Offensive Stealth Rock: B+

Serperior

Substitute: A

Utility: A

Choice Scarf: B-

Screens: B

Skarmory

Physically Defensive: A-

A- Rank

Azumarill

Z-Belly Drum: A-

Choice Band: B+

Assault Vest: B

Perish Trapper: C+

Blacephalon

Calm Mind: A-

Choice Scarf: A-

Choice Specs: B

Excadrill

Z-Move Sand Rush: A-

Suicide Lead: B+

Choice Scarf: B

Specially Defensive: B

Hatterene

Calm Mind: A-

Offensive: A-

Assault Vest: B+

Hoopa-U

Choice Band: A-

Assault Vest: B+

Z Nasty Plot: B+

Choice Scarf: B-

Choice Specs: B-

Keldeo

Calm Mind: A-

Choice Specs: A-

Choice Scarf: A-

Manaphy

Waterium Z: A-

Rain Dance: B+

Take Heart: B+

Scizor-Mega

Defensive: A-

Offensive: B+

Defog: B-

Slowbro

Utility: A-

Calm Mind: B+

Slowking

Specially Defensive: A-

Sneasler

Choice Scarf: A-

Choice Band: B+

Swords Dance: B

Tyranitar

Choice Band: A-

Utility: B

Assault Vest: B-

Victini

Choice Band: A-

Choice Scarf: A-

Z-Celebrate: B+

Ursaluna

RestTalk: A-

Offensive: B+

Weavile

Choice Band: A-

Swords Dance: B-

B Rank:

B+ Rank

Alakazam-Mega

Offensive: B+

Alomomola

Defensive: B+

Amoonguss

Defensive: B+

Assault Vest: B-

Breloom

Offensive: B

Poison Heal: C+

Chansey

Utility: B+

Charizard-Mega-X

Offensive: B+

Defensive: B

Charizard-Mega-Y

Offensive: B+

Greninja

Choice Scarf: B+

Z-Move: B+

Suicide Lead: B-

Jirachi

Choice Scarf: B+

Specially Defensive: B

Z-Happy Hour: B-

Kommo-o

Kommonium Z: B+

Belly Drum: B

Specially Defensive: B

Dragon Dance: B-

Latias-Mega

Calm Mind: B+

Utility: B

Latias

Offensive: B+

Choice Scarf: B

Latios-Mega

Offensive: B+

Ninetales-Alola

Aurora Veil: B+

Magnezone

Choice Scarf: B+

Choice Specs: B+

Z-Move: B-

Pinsir-Mega

Offensive: B+

Rotom-Wash

Physically Defensive: B+

Offensive: B-

Sableye-Mega

Utility: B+

Calm Mind: B-

Tangrowth

Physically Defensive: B+

Assault Vest: B

Thundurus

Offensive: B+

Utility: B

B Rank

Annihilape

Bulk Up: B

Choice Scarf: B-

Gyarados-Mega

Offensive: B

Hippowdon

Defensive: B

Hydreigon

Choice Scarf: B

Choice Specs: B

Offensive: B

Medicham-Mega

Offensive: B

Mew

Stallbreaker: B

Utility: B-

Offensive: C+

Suicide Lead: C+

Suicune

Substitute Calm Mind: B

Defensive: B-

Thundurus-T

Agility: B

Nasty Plot: B

Dual Dance: B-

Tyranitar-Mega

Offensive: B

Utility: B-

Venusaur-Mega

Defensive: B

Offensive: B-

Volcanion

Choice Specs: B

Defensive Utility: B

Choice Scarf: B-

B- Rank

Altaria-Mega

Physically Defensive: B-

Physically Offensive: C+

Utility: C+

Specially Offensive: C

Crawdaunt

Choice Band: B-

Offensive: C

Gastrodon

Specially Defensive: B-

Heracross-Mega

Offensive: B-

Porygon-Z

Z-Conversion: B-

Reuniclus

Calm Mind: B-

Dual Dance: C

Trick Room: C

C Rank:

C+ Rank

Aerodactyl

Suicide Lead: C+

Alakazam

Focus Sash: C+

Offensive: C

Cresselia

Trick Room: C+

Utility: C

Diggersby

Offensive: C+

Choice Band: C

Choice Scarf: C

Ditto

Choice Scarf: C+

Gallade-Mega

Offensive: C+

Defensive: C

Gengar

Offensive: C+

Choice Scarf: C-

Mamowsine

Offensive: C+

Choice Band: C

Suicide Lead: C-

Manectric-Mega

Offensive: C+

Pelipper

Defensive: C+

Choice Scarf: C

Choice Specs: C

Porygon2

Defensive: C+

Trick Room: C

Quagsire

Physically Defensive: C+

Ribombee

Sticky Web: C+

Scizor

Choice Band: C+

Offensive: C

Swampert-Mega

Offensive: C+

Offensive Stealth Rock: C+

Togekiss

Stallbreaker: C+

Choice Scarf: C-

Uxie

Trick Room: C+

C Rank

Cloyster

Shell Smash: C

Conkeldurr

Guts: C

Assault Vest: C-

Sheer Force: C-

Gardevoir-Mega

Offensive: C

Gyarados

Flynium Z: C

Hawlucha

Offensive: C

Kingdra

Choice Specs: C

Marowak-Alola

Offensive: C

Mimikyu

Offensive: C

Slowbro-Mega

Calm Mind: C

Physically Defensive: C

Terrakion

Choice Scarf: C

Swords Dance: C

Choice Band: C-

Torkoal

Physically Defensive: C

Venusaur

Offensive: C

C- Rank

Aerodactyl-Mega

Offensive: C-

Pursuit: C-

Azelf

Suicide Lead: C-

Blastoise

Shell Smash: C-

Blissey

Calm Mind: C-

Defensive: C-

Cofagrigus

Physically Defensive: C-

Trick Room: C-

Garchomp-Mega

All-Out Attacker: C-

Swords Dance: C-

Infernape

Suicide Lead: C-

Jellicent

Physically Defensive: C-

Kleavor

Choice Scarf: C-

Suicide Lead: C-

Klefki

Screens: C-

Specially Defensive: C-

Mantine

Defensive: C-

Muk-Alola

Assault Vest: C-

Nidoking

Offensive: C-

Pidgeot-Mega

Offensive: C-

Stallbreaker: C-

Seismitoad

Defensive: C-

Starmie

Offensive: C-

Defensive: C-

Tentacruel

Defensive: C-

Venta de pokemones y accesorios

Fri, 31 Oct 2025 18:42:55 +0000

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Pvp h.a ev trained pokes with good stats

Mon, 15 Sep 2025 16:19:20 +0000

!This is a wrong section auction

[Snivy] - 30/20 almost max spd

Auction: s.o (200k) - min raise (100k) - duration [8 hours]

[Gible] - Hidden Power (ice)

Auction: s.o (200k) - min raise (100k) - duration [8 hours]

[Silver Server]

Uncompetitive PVP combinations (IMHO) Chansey with Eviolite/Seismic Toss and Kyurem + Freeze-Dry

Sun, 20 Jul 2025 20:56:49 +0000

I play a little Normal PVP and I perceive the following combinations as unhealthy:

1) Chansey with Eviolite item and Seismic Toss move. Almost every high ranking user have this combo (or at least Chansey with Eviolite). Having move set:
Seismic Toss, Heal Bell, Soft-Boiled/Wish, Toxic/Thunder Wave/Stealth Rock; with Natural Cure ability; Bold nature; 252 IV for defense and 252 for HP makes Chansey:
- very hard to kill,
- perfect and safe switch strategy when any Special Attack Pokemon is in the opponent battlefield,
- stalls the game (normal match can be ended in 10 minutes with Chensey it is always at least twice more)
Even trying to knock off the Eviolite does not help because good opponent always is switching to Pokemon with mega stone/Zapdos with Static/Skarmory with Rocky Helmet. Toxic is not useful against Chansey due to Heal Bell and/or Natural Cure ability (just switch out and it gets away with any status condition). Chansey played well with other Pokemons (like stall team: Skarmory, Clefable, Meaga Sableye) makes it very hard to defeat. From my experience every stall team with Chansey have always high ranking (I guess you can lookup the Pokemons of players in the top 10, seeing there Meaga Sableye with Will-O-Wisp will not be a big surprise). I realize that ghost type Pokemon with Taunt can stay against Chansey, but over all with almost zero attack stat Chansey can defeat almost any Pokmeon in 3/4 turns using Seismic Toss or Toxic it (then use Soft-Boiled).
I think that Chansey + Eviolite should be banned combination or at least Chansey + Sesimic Toss. If this is allowed why "Arena Trap" is not (which makes sense against Chansey, more than Block/Mean Look moves because she will be switched anyway before the move will be in effect).

2) Kyurem (especially White/Black due to Turboblaze ability) + Freeze-Dry move,
Ice type attack like Freeze-Dry is super effective against types: grass, ground, flying, dragon, + water due to Freeze-Dry specification.
When fighting with Kyurem a natural choice be to switch to a Pokemon with steel or fire type (ice attack is not effective against them). But Kyurem (which has huge Sp. Attack) also knows Earth Power move which is super-effective against the above two types. Furthermore Bronzong with Levitate ability will get killed due to Turboblaze ability of Kyurem. Plus Freeze-Dry can froze the target.
I feel like Kyurem + Freeze-Dry (when it also knows Earth Power) makes the game uncompetitive.

Those are only my observations as a player so anyone feel free to disagree. I feel like the above combinations makes the PVP limited to only well known sets of Pokemon, and for me this removes the fan in building PVP team.

The /Draw Command (and Other Helpful Reminders)

Mon, 25 Aug 2025 00:54:21 +0000

Hello everyone! With the rise of newer PvP players since the release of the PvP chests, I wanted to go over some simple, but effective ways to continue PvP'ing with friends/family but not risk being involved in Illegitimate Rank Boosting! (click on the link to read about what is considered rank boosting)

This is by far the most important feature that we will talk about. This feature isn't widely known, but today we're going to change that! It is best practice to avoid queueing at the same time as someone you know such as a close friend, family member, or anyone else you may share a network connection with. However, if you do happen to encounter them, do not surrender or continue the battle. By doing this, you could be rank boosting! With the /draw command there's no harm and most importantly no foul!

Using this command is simple:

Type /draw into the chat:

This brings up a dialogue box for your opponent:

They click 'yes' and the match ends without a winner. Thus this isn't rank boosting.

This next one isn't exactly a feature but it is something plenty of guilds have in place in order to avoid queueing with guildmates. Anyone can utilize the same system in order to avoid matching with a family member or someone with a shared network connection. Suppose Billy and Bob are brothers living in the same household and they wish to partake in ranked PvP. Billy sends a private message to Bob with just a 'q'. This informs Bob that Billy is in the queue and is waiting for an opponent. When Billy matches with an opponent, he sends Bob a 'b'. Now Bob knows Billy is in a battle and he can now queue without worrying about matching with Billy.

You can use private messages like in my example, or in guild chat like many guilds do.

This is another feature that may be overlooked. You are certainly free to send battle requests to your family and friends without worrying about rank boosting! Make sure you aren't in a Pokémon Center, and click on the person's character, in chat, or in your friend/guild list. From there you can send them a request for either a regular battle using your own Pokémon or a random battle so you can practice! It is important to note that because these are friendly battles, there wont be any gains such as PvP coins or PvP chests, but you will have bragging rights!

I hope this visual guide helps to explain how you can enjoy ranked (and unranked) PvP while avoiding being accidentally involved in Illegitimate Rank Boosting!

protean Greninja can be used in pvp or not

Sun, 24 Aug 2025 13:06:29 +0000

so i was battling and i read the rules again and again a lot , in rules they say that Protean greninja is banned but i show my oppo use it ??
is it really banned or not??

And sorry if i post it somewhere wrong i dont know that much about forums, i just got curiosity to know is it banned or not?

And at last if protean greninja is allowed , does the battlebond is allowed too?? tell me as quick as u can please

Clefable Unaware with soft boiled

Mon, 23 Jun 2025 23:09:51 +0000

Hi Devs, I guess this is quite OP for a Clef as of now considering that we do not have much Gen 9 pokes or other pokes that can counter it efficiently.

I just experienced it myself.

Kindly take an action for this.

Record_2025-06-24-07-02-14_b6cf29a8d71a772972c7487cb9181f95.mp4

About some moves

Sun, 27 Apr 2025 17:36:21 +0000

Why are moves like Belch and Stockpile still banned in PVP? I thought they worked properly already (at least when I used them playing story). I remember the reasoning for their ban being logical as their limitations didn't work making them to op. Any chance that they will be unbaned?

PRO PvP Survey Results (March 2025)

Wed, 02 Apr 2025 05:59:18 +0000

PRO PvP Survey Results (March 2025)

Hello, everyone!

Last week, the PvP Coordinator team released a survey in an effort to gauge how the community feels about the current metagame, as well as what changes can be made to improve the overall experience and satisfaction of the PvP playerbase. The survey results are informal but can constitute a starting point for some PvP discussion. While they are mostly indicative, they can, in some cases, invite to follow or avoid a certain course of action.

After 211 total responses, here are the PRO PvP Survey results:

First question: On a scale of 1 to 10, how much do you enjoy the current metagame? (Read: how fun is it to play?)

There were 209 responses to this question and the average response was 6.64/10, meaning that most players are somewhat enjoying the metagame. However, we must also acknowledge that there is room for improvement and that the average response is far from satisfactory.

Second question: Do you agree with the statement that the recent rework of PvP rewards has increased your satisfaction with the PvP content offered in PRO?

There were 209 responses to this question. The majority of players – 110 (52.6%), to be exact – strongly agreed with the statement, while 83 players (39.7%) somewhat agreed with it. Only 11 respondents (5.3%) somewhat disagreed with the statement, whereas a mere 5 (2.4%) strongly disagreed with it. Overall, 92.3% of participants (193 out of 209) seem to be more satisfied with PvP following the recent rework of PvP rewards.

Third question: What are some changes you would like to see implemented in regards to the recent PvP rework?

There were 155 replies. We have read every single one of them but cannot include them all. We will thus limit the following summary to the suggestions that were at least made a few times.

Players would like a wider variety of PvP Chest rewards, including new TMs, as well as fewer low-value prizes and better drop rates in general.
There were several complaints about the way that the reward system currently works.
Some players want to shorten the duration of the battle timer.
Others eagerly await the merge of both servers and the implementation of the PvP Token Shop.
There were a few suggestions to make more PvP statistics and Pokémon data publicly available.
Implementing some QoL changes, like showing remaining weather or Trick Room turns, would be appreciated by many.
While this question mainly concerned the recent PvP rework, there were some complaints about the metagame being unhealthy and/or unenjoyable.
There were a few recommendations for additional tiers/queues.

Fourth question: On a scale of 1 to 10, how healthy do you find the current metagame? (1 being extremely unhealthy and 10 being extremely healthy)

There were 207 responses to this question and the average response was 6.17/10. This means that, although a sizable portion of players may disagree, most players find the current metagame to be somewhat healthy. Nonetheless, these results seem to encourage considering some sort of action to improve the state of the metagame.

Fifth question: How do you feel about the strength of the following archetypes in the current metagame?

Hyper Offense: There were 195 assessments. According to 124 of them, Hyper Offense is appropriately strong in the current metagame. 44 players find it to be too strong, whereas only 27 deem it to be too weak. Overall, the playerbase is content with the state of Hyper Offense in the current metagame.
Bulky Offense: There were 193 assessments. According to 133 of them, Bulky Offense is appropriately strong in the current metagame. 38 players find it to be too strong, whereas only 22 deem it to be too weak. Overall, the playerbase is content with the state of Bulky Offense in the current metagame.
Balance: There were 193 assessments. According to 146 of them, Balance is appropriately strong in the current metagame. 28 players find it to be too weak, while only 19 think that it is too strong. Overall, the playerbase is content with the state of Balance in the current metagame.
Stall: There were 195 assessments. According to 96 of them, Stall is too strong in the current metagame. 64 players find it to be adequately strong, whereas 35 deem it to be too weak. Overall, a large portion of the playerbase is discontented with the state of Stall, with 49.2% of respondents considering the playstyle to be potentially problematic in the current metagame.
Rain: There were 194 assessments. According to 123 of them, Rain is appropriately strong in the current metagame. 41 players find it to be too weak, while 30 deem it too strong. Overall, the playerbase is content with the state of Rain in the current metagame.
Sun: There were 192 assessments. According to 109 of them, Sun is appropriately strong in the current metagame. However, 67 players find it to be too weak, while only 16 deem it too strong. Overall, the playerbase is content with the state of Sun, but a substantial number of players (34.9%) think that the playstyle is too weak in the current metagame.
Sand: There were 192 assessments. According to 97 of them, Sand is appropriately strong in the current metagame. However, 86 players find it to be too weak, while only 9 deem it too strong. Overall, the playerbase is content with the state of Sand, but a substantial number of players (44.8%) think that the playstyle is too weak in the current metagame.
Snow (or Veil): There were 193 assessments. According to 100 of them, Snow (or Veil) is appropriately strong in the current metagame. However, 77 players find it to be too weak, while only 16 deem it too strong. Overall, the playerbase is content with the state of Snow (or Veil), but a substantial number of players (39.9%) think that the playstyle is too weak in the current metagame.
Trick Room: There were 194 assessments. According to 96 of them, Trick Room is appropriately strong in the current metagame. 54 players find it to be too strong, whereas 44 deem it to be too weak. Overall, the playerbase is content with the state of Trick Room in the current metagame.

The three archetypes that players found to be the strongest in the current metagame are, in decreasing order of perceived strength, Stall, Trick Room, and Hyper Offense.

The three archetypes that players found to be the weakest in the current metagame are, in decreasing order of perceived weakness, Sand, Snow (or Veil), and Sun.

Sixth question: Do you agree with the statement that there are too many offensive threats and not enough defensive answers?

There were 202 responses to this question. 69 players (34.2%) somewhat agreed with the statement, while 46 (22.8%) strongly agreed with it. 53 players (26.2%) somewhat disagreed with the statement, whereas only 34 (16.8%) strongly disagreed with it. Overall, 115 players (57% of respondents) agreed either partially or completely with the statement that there may be too many offensive threats and not enough defensive answers.

Seventh question: Do you agree with the statement that the current offensive trends promote an unhealthy, matchup-fishy metagame? (Read: a metagame where a large amount of games are decided at team preview regardless of player skill)

There were 198 responses to this question. 68 players (34.3%) somewhat agreed with the statement, while 57 (28.8%) strongly agreed with it. 50 players (25.3%) somewhat disagreed with the statement, whereas only 23 (11.6%) strongly disagreed with it. Overall, 125 out of 198 players (63.1% of respondents) agreed either partially or completely with the statement that the current offensive trends promote an unhealthy, matchup-fishy metagame.

Based on the answers to this question and the previous one, a majority of players find that the wide array of offensive options and builds may minimize the impact of skillful play on the outcome of a given match.

Eighth question: Do you believe that the PvP Council should take tiering action against something (i.e., a Pokémon) to improve the state of the metagame?

There were 196 responses to this question. A majority of players – 107 (54.6%), to be exact – believe that the PvP Council should take tiering action against something (i.e., a Pokémon) to improve the state of the metagame, while 24 players (12.2%) do not believe so. However, there is substantial uncertainty, with 65 respondents (33.2%) being unsure as to whether the PvP Council should act at all. As a reminder, the PvP Coordinator team can only act on currently released features and can – at best – suggest new releases on the basis of the improvement of the metagame.

Ninth question: On a scale of 1 to 5, how do you feel about Annihilape in the current metagame? (1 being not broken and 5 being broken)

There were 198 responses to this question and the average response was 3.01/5. Most respondents seem to be on the fence.

Tenth question: On a scale of 1 to 5, how do you feel about Breloom in the current metagame? (1 being not broken and 5 being broken)

There were 198 responses to this question and the average response was 2.63/5. Most respondents find that Breloom is unproblematic in the current metagame.

Eleventh question: On a scale of 1 to 5, how do you feel about Clefable in the current metagame? (1 being not broken and 5 being broken)

There were 201 responses to this question and the average response was 3.3/5. Most respondents find that Clefable is potentially problematic in the current metagame.

Twelfth question: On a scale of 1 to 5, how do you feel about Kyurem in the current metagame? (1 being not broken and 5 being broken)

There were 202 responses to this question and the average response was 3.46/5. Most respondents find that Kyurem is potentially problematic in the current metagame.

Thirteenth question: On a scale of 1 to 5, how do you feel about Kyurem-Black in the current metagame? (1 being not broken and 5 being broken)

There were 202 responses to this question and the average response was 3.27/5. Most respondents find that Kyurem-Black is potentially problematic in the current metagame.

Fourteenth question: On a scale of 1 to 5, how do you feel about Mega Mawile in the current metagame? (1 being not broken and 5 being broken)

There were 201 responses to this question and the average response was 3.09/5. Most respondents seem to be on the fence.

Fifteenth question: On a scale of 1 to 5, how do you feel about Mega Metagross in the current metagame? (1 being not broken and 5 being broken)

There were 201 responses to this question and the average response was 2.87/5. Most respondents seem to be on the fence.

Sixteenth question: On a scale of 1 to 5, how do you feel about Mega Lopunny in the current metagame? (1 being not broken and 5 being broken)

There were 201 responses to this question and the average response was 3.04/5. Most respondents seem to be on the fence.

Seventeenth question: Which of the following, if any, would be positive additions to the metagame, in your view? (Select all that apply.)

There were 197 responses to this question.

The most picked Pokémon is Kartana with 104 votes (52.8% of the responses).
The second most picked Pokémon is Toxapex with 102 votes (51.8% of the responses).
The third most picked Pokémon is Corviknight with 101 votes (51.3% of the responses).
The fourth most picked Pokémon is Slowking-Galar with 96 votes (48.7% of the responses).

There is a noticeable drop in votes between the four most picked Pokémon and others.

In fifth place is Magearna, with 68 votes (34.5% of the responses).
In sixth place is Speed Boost Blaziken, with 56 votes (28.4% of the responses).
In seventh place is Darkrai, with 50 votes (25.4% of the responses).
In eighth place is Melmetal, with 48 votes (24.4% of the responses).
In ninth place is Genesect, with 43 votes (21.8% of the responses).
In tenth place is Sheer Force Landorus, with 36 votes (18.3% of the responses).
14 respondents (7.1% of the votes) selected “None of the above.”

There were several other suggestions made as additional comments, with the most recurring pick being the guardian deities. Tapu Bulu, Tapu Fini, Tapu Koko, and Tapu Lele are a quartet of Legendary Pokémon and, as is the case with most Legendary Pokémon in PRO, there are usually specific release plans in place, hence the omission of the guardian deities from the poll options.

As a reminder, the PvP Coordinator team can only act on currently released features and can – at best – suggest new releases on the basis of the aforementioned suggestions.

Any final thoughts, comments, suggestions or concerns?

There were 140 replies. We have read every single one of them but cannot include them all. We will thus limit the following summary to the points that were at least mentioned a few times.

Ban Stall, I guess.
Many other ban suggestions.
While players made conflicting observations, one point remained: the current metagame does not feel very balanced; some archetypes fare better than others.
More TMs and items – mainly Heavy-Duty Boots –, as well as missing Pokémon, need to be released as soon as possible.
Too much repetition and team similarity in the current metagame.
A rework of the Reconnect feature.
More PvP formats.

Once again, thank you so much for participating in this PRO PvP Survey. If there is anything else not mentioned in the results, you may bring it up in this thread. Of course, if you wish to discuss any of the PRO PvP Survey results, you may also do so here.

ban this set please

Fri, 28 Mar 2025 07:39:24 +0000

sub+protect+toxic set gliscor must be banned its infinite pp stall

New role in forum

Mon, 13 Jan 2025 01:33:41 +0000

I dont know where to post sorry

Possible to create a new forum role for PvP council member ?

Will be cool to know the team and having potential discussion there

Thanks in advance! Have a nice day!