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well, i'm sorry, i wont record it to show to you, guys, but i'm fighting with a friend and i was using a dragonite ( already with dragons dance) and he was using an arcanine, well, i've used earthquake and it took 50% of his life, so, he have used will o- whisp on my dragonite and it actived my lum berry, ok, my dragonite wasn't burn anymore, and i've used earthquake again but this time it only took 25% of his life!! But my lum berry took the burn before my dragonite has used earthquake.

 

i know, intimidade decreasses the dragonite's attack, but my first earthquake ( after intimidate, but i've used dragons dance) took 50% of his life and the second earthquake after my lum berry took the burn, took only half of damage.

 

well, sorry my english.

I saw that too, when i use w-o-w, even if the lum berry heal the poke, damage will be lowered, i thought it was normal not a bug ^^' Because after being healed the damage are back to normal, it just does that for 'the turn you were burned and getting healed by lum berry'

 

So, at the devs to say if it's bugged or not :x

That is a bug based on the standard pokemon mechanics, burn should not continue to lower the atk stat if it has been removed. Otherwise paralyse should continue to lower speed even after you've un paralysed yourself with a lum berry.

I mean, currently the chronological order is :

W-o-w (attack poke 1) > poke 2 is burned > poke 2 attack (so reduced) > healed with lum berry (and attack no longer reduced if continue to attack)

Thats why speed / para doesn't matter on this exemple because if you already attack in second, heal or not it makes the 0 difference.

 

But yeah, i thought it always worked this way (wasn't a pvp player before) maybe it should work :

W-o-w > poke 2 burned > Heal with lum berry instantly > Attack with normal damage :x

in pokemon showdown and pokeMMO, is:

 

poke 1 : will o whisp

poke 2 : lum berry heal it > normal damage

 

if lum berry dont heal it in the same turn, lets see with thunder wave

 

poke 1: thunder wave

poke 2 : lum berry heal it > poke 2 is fuly paralyzed

 

why lum berry heals paralyze in the same turn and no will o whisp?

 

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A similar situation occured yesterday with Excadrill & Sandrush.

Sandstorm subsided but Excadrill was still faster than a a Charizard with 330 speed even though supposed to be not possible. Was using Gengar afterwards to get proof : Sandstorm was cast, subsided, Excadrill was faster than my Gengar.

The additional speed was not removed, as it looks like.

other case... sablaye vs azulmarill

 

PLay rough give out 130% of damage of sablaye's life

 

started the fight

sablaye used will o whisp - azulmaril is burned

lum berry heals the burn, but play rough tooks only 65% of sablaye's life.

  MestrePokemon said:
158929 poke 1: thunder wave

poke 2 : lum berry heal it > poke 2 is fuly paralyzed

 

No, it's healed, just not for the turn he got paralyzed :x And your example with play rough and sableye is the same :x

But compared to showdown, yep it sounds like a bug ^^' I was using (/abusing it) this bug with prankster sableye without knowing, thought it was normal :')

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