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Its like u put the words out of my head and wrote them down. :Heart:
+1!
Like its ridiculous to claim a ban of any pokemon cause u dont put the effort and TIME in catching a talonflame gw or h.a. extremely rare like gothita or sableeye, or skrelp etc. So if u put the effort and money into headbutting, some ppl might thing those earned to got this poke and use it for them. Its not like with legendaries (suicune), which arent able to get on your own.
talonfalme is not like other ms-pokemons that we can farm easily
i spent two weeks and no h.a one
the only way to get one is pay tons of money to buy one
it's ridiculous
Cry on 1 post only bro :Frown:
don't cry kido, go find ur mom :Angel:
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Okay, then it's ur problem bro :Smile: relax, take some rest and think the way to get an epic h.a talon if U think it's OP :Angel:
people always complain about the monotone of pvp, always the same pokemons, always talonflame
and just don't want to ban some overpower pokemons and make other pokemons have more chance to show up in pvp
Bro! People always complain about s.th becoz they can't deal with that problem. But nothing is impossible, always has a solution for any problem. And u can get the solution or not is depend on ur thinking. Game for relaxing, not for crying or being angry :Angel:
u don't get the point
first, i complain it not because i can't deal with it
i complain it just because it overpower and make some others offensive pokemon has no chances to show up
"if i can use talonflame why do i have to use other offensive pokemons ?"
it just make the pvp monotone and boring
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So, if someone has more money than you and he buys the Pokemon you want, it is also pay to win?
if someone pay tons of money to buy an epic garchomp, dragonite
i would not say anything
because we can farm garchomp, dragonite
but talon is different, we can't farm talonflame easily
the only way is to pay tons of $$ to get one
pretty sure no matter how many crybaby arguments you make talonflame or any other poke won't be banned without a solid reason and your argument is pretty weak to begin with.
i dont see any point in ur reply,
oh yea, u got a talon in ur pvp team
haha
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202354202240 I really don't get all the fuss about gothitelle...
1. Tiers are made for pokemon showdown, a competitive environment where the one and only problem is "what to pick" and "what am i allowed to pick to compete at the same level with my opponent". In PRO the eventual "Ubers" would be really different and should include the "unobtainable" pokemon to everyone (see staff pokemon, banned indeed). So complaining about "gothitelle shadow tag is uber, pls copy showdown and ban" makes really no sense.
2. You're making it seem impossible to counter with all those "unhealthy" "gamebreaking" and so on out of context adjectives. It's not unbalanced at all, there are TONS of counters to it, unlike many other pokemon, perhaps you just didn't bother to bring them in your team when you faced one (because unexpected). Guess what, even a ferrothorn can ruin your team if you don't have fire coverage, what's the difference? Something you didn't came prepared for, that has counter and counter stuff... unhealthy? please.
Bring u-turn / volt switch / baton pass on your special attacker (see magnezone) to counter shadow tag, dark physical coverage, heavy physical dmg, gothitelle is done for, has way more counters than the most used ability in the game, regenerator.
And guess what, all this fuss because shadow tag counters that...
3. Banning an obtainable extremely rare (h.a. as well) pokemon who is working as intended is really dangerous for a MMO environment, PRO isn't showdown where you can get shadow tag gothitelle just by selecting it, there are people who actually spent weeks farming for that h.a. extremely rare, and whoever tried that feeling (hi prankster sableye) knows how much of a pain that is. People saying "ban gothitelle shadowtag" aren't that much different from the guy who said "ban talonflame galewings", there are just as many counters to it, difference being if you don't expect the pokemon (like you do with talonflame) you might be careless with switch ins/outs without having scouted properly the enemy team before, get trapped when you scald with your slowbro and lose your regenerator.
4. Wall breaking. Another major problem in the current PvP state, the lack of items like life orb and specs make wall breaking extremely hard. When life orb comes people will get more used to their "walls" being destroyed and maybe realize that a strategy that relies 99% on switching between walls isn't that good anymore. Shadowtag gothitelle does the same, wall breaking, people in PRO aren't just used to get their walls countered...
Its like u put the words out of my head and wrote them down. :Heart:
+1!
202348it's so ridiculous that people saying don't ban talonflame just because they got an epic talon in their team
and not banning gothita just because they got a gothita in their team.
Like its ridiculous to claim a ban of any pokemon cause u dont put the effort and TIME in catching a talonflame gw or h.a. extremely rare like gothita or sableeye, or skrelp etc. So if u put the effort and money into headbutting, some ppl might thing those earned to got this poke and use it for them. Its not like with legendaries (suicune), which arent able to get on your own.
talonfalme is not like other ms-pokemons that we can farm easily
i spent two weeks and no h.a one
the only way to get one is pay tons of money to buy one
it's ridiculous
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if someone pay tons of money to buy an epic garchomp, dragonite
i would not say anything
because we can farm garchomp, dragonite
but talon is different, we can't farm talonflame easily
the only way is to pay tons of $$ to get one
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people always complain about the monotone of pvp, always the same pokemons, always talonflame
and just don't want to ban some overpower pokemons and make other pokemons have more chance to show up in pvp
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202349can we ban "gale wings" or make focus sash more available pls ??
doesn't anyone think "gale wings with fire type" too overpower ??
high priority with high speed, brave bird and sharp beak, roost and would not get burnt as well
make it just too strong against many other invasive pkms
and can easily force tons of invasive pkms out, like weavile, crawdaunt, breloom, gengar, alakazam, ninetales, honchkrow, staraptor, scizor, machamp, starmie and etc.
even though u want to use priority moves, like aqua jet, ice shard, mach punch, sucker punch, it's almost impossible to outspeed talonflame and u will easily
get one-shot by brave bird.
if it's not that overpower then why almost everyone has a talonflame in their pvp team ??
one of the main reason is that we can not obtain focus sash easily, there are many pkms need focus sash to against gale wings talonflame.
so i sincerely recommend banning "gale wins" before focus sash becoming more available, it will make pvp more balanced and interesting.
Where's checked pkm? where's +2 priority Extreme Speed?
is there so many pokemons with extreme speed?
only draongite, arcanine, lucario
201666201661 This is not the thread to discuss about banning a Pokemon. But anyways, if we were to ban Talonflame, that would encourage more stall seeing most of the current meta revolves around stall.there is a issue that we can not obtain gale wings talonflame easily
so those who have nice h.a talonflame can always have advantages when they play pvp
if everyone can farm fletching like ms-pokemons, i would not suggest banning talonflame anymore
The question is: if u have an epic/god gale wings Talonflame, will u ask for banning it? Lol.
I dont see any competitive advantages when s.o has nice h.a talon in their team at all. Dont suggest something that only u can't deal with it bro :Smile:
the better question is that is it easy to get a h.a talonflame ??
or just pay tons of money to get a talonflame
pay to win huh ??
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202240 I really don't get all the fuss about gothitelle...
1. Tiers are made for pokemon showdown, a competitive environment where the one and only problem is "what to pick" and "what am i allowed to pick to compete at the same level with my opponent". In PRO the eventual "Ubers" would be really different and should include the "unobtainable" pokemon to everyone (see staff pokemon, banned indeed). So complaining about "gothitelle shadow tag is uber, pls copy showdown and ban" makes really no sense.
2. You're making it seem impossible to counter with all those "unhealthy" "gamebreaking" and so on out of context adjectives. It's not unbalanced at all, there are TONS of counters to it, unlike many other pokemon, perhaps you just didn't bother to bring them in your team when you faced one (because unexpected). Guess what, even a ferrothorn can ruin your team if you don't have fire coverage, what's the difference? Something you didn't came prepared for, that has counter and counter stuff... unhealthy? please.
Bring u-turn / volt switch / baton pass on your special attacker (see magnezone) to counter shadow tag, dark physical coverage, heavy physical dmg, gothitelle is done for, has way more counters than the most used ability in the game, regenerator.
And guess what, all this fuss because shadow tag counters that...
3. Banning an obtainable extremely rare (h.a. as well) pokemon who is working as intended is really dangerous for a MMO environment, PRO isn't showdown where you can get shadow tag gothitelle just by selecting it, there are people who actually spent weeks farming for that h.a. extremely rare, and whoever tried that feeling (hi prankster sableye) knows how much of a pain that is. People saying "ban gothitelle shadowtag" aren't that much different from the guy who said "ban talonflame galewings", there are just as many counters to it, difference being if you don't expect the pokemon (like you do with talonflame) you might be careless with switch ins/outs without having scouted properly the enemy team before, get trapped when you scald with your slowbro and lose your regenerator.
4. Wall breaking. Another major problem in the current PvP state, the lack of items like life orb and specs make wall breaking extremely hard. When life orb comes people will get more used to their "walls" being destroyed and maybe realize that a strategy that relies 99% on switching between walls isn't that good anymore. Shadowtag gothitelle does the same, wall breaking, people in PRO aren't just used to get their walls countered...
i kinda agree with u and kinda not aggree with u ,
pro is very different from other pokemon games, there are still many items, abilities, moves uncoded
so it just doesn't need to follow the rules of smogan
and of course i say banning gales talonflame, why not ban it ??
every pokemon has its counter, of course talon flame has it's counter
u may think it's easy to deal with talonflame, just prepare stealth rock, rock type pokemons
yes those are all it's counter choice.
but the point is that if ur enemy switch talonflame on, the only pokemon u can choose to switch on is bulky one
u will never want to switch other offensive pokemons on, cuz there is no focus sash and u know u would always get one-shot by brave bird
even worse when talonflame has used sword dance, ur bulky pokemons stand a chance to be 2hko by talonflame
after one sword dance it can one-shot my azumarill with 400 hp
and if i don't bring on bulky pokemon that can one-shot talon flame, it can still use roost to heal itself
and kill my bulky pokemon
if talonflame is that easy to counter, then there will not be so many talonflames in pvp
as i say pro is very different from other pokemon games
have u ever seen so many talonflames in pvp in other pokemon games ???
it's so ridiculous that people saying don't ban talonflame just because they got an epic talon in their team
and not banning gothita just because they got a gothita in their team.
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201661 This is not the thread to discuss about banning a Pokemon. But anyways, if we were to ban Talonflame, that would encourage more stall seeing most of the current meta revolves around stall.
ok, my last reply,
there is a issue that we can not obtain gale wings talonflame easily
so those who have nice h.a talonflame can always have advantages when they play pvp
if everyone can farm fletching like ms-pokemons, i would not suggest banning talonflame anymore
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I don't run talonflame at all, lol. It's not the fault of other players if /you/ don't adapt.
i didn't say it's other people's fault for using it, i just suggest banning gale wings before focus sash becoming more available.
or pvp will always has tons of talonflames and make it boring.
i just want to make pvp more interesting and exciting.
So you choose not to run something w/ Rock Slide and is a bulky ground/rock type? Nice!
u just don't know what i mean, every pokemon has it's counter pokemon, ofc rock type pokemons can check talon
but the point is talonflame can easily check almost all the other offensive pokemons i mentioned before
if u don't switch out u die, u switch out then talon can still choose to use sword dance or roost
talonflame can be a nightmare to almost all the other offensive pokemons
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but talonflame can "always" force oth
201526201523What are you complaining about Talon is easy to check. Setting up a stealth rock alone will chunk most of it's health. Get a bulky water type and talon can't do anything.
bulky pokemons are sure to block invasive pokemons, of course it can check talonflame
but talonflame can "always" force other invasive pokemons out easily. that's why i think talonflame op
strong team now always become 2~3 tanks + talonflame + dragonite + another pokemon ( maybe starmie or something)
if u think talonflame is not op, then just don't use it
I don't run talonflame at all, lol. It's not the fault of other players if /you/ don't adapt.
i didn't say it's other people's fault for using it, i just suggest banning gale wings before focus sash becoming more available.
or pvp will always has tons of talonflames and make it boring.
i just want to make pvp more interesting and exciting.
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bulky pokemons are sure to block invasive pokemons, of course it can check talonflame
but talonflame can "always" force other invasive pokemons out easily. that's why i think talonflame op
strong team now always become 2~3 tanks + talonflame + dragonite + another pokemon ( maybe starmie or something)
if u think talonflame is not op, then just don't use it
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alright, everyone just gets a gale wings talonflame in the pvp team, pvp so funny haha :Cool:
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can we ban "gale wings" or make focus sash more available pls ??
doesn't anyone think "gale wings with fire type" too overpower ??
high priority with high speed, brave bird and sharp beak, roost and would not get burnt as well
make it just too strong against many other invasive pkms
and can easily force tons of invasive pkms out, like weavile, crawdaunt, breloom, gengar, alakazam, ninetales, honchkrow, staraptor, scizor, machamp, starmie and etc.
even though u want to use priority moves, like aqua jet, ice shard, mach punch, sucker punch, it's almost impossible to outspeed talonflame and u will easily
get one-shot by brave bird.
if it's not that overpower then why almost everyone has a talonflame in their pvp team ??
one of the main reason is that we can not obtain focus sash easily, there are many pkms need focus sash to against gale wings talonflame.
so i sincerely recommend banning "gale wins" before focus sash becoming more available, it will make pvp more balanced and interesting.
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200836 I sometimes got 4 fletchinders in 1 tv-run. And its really not a rare poke like the 3 monkeys or sylveon/rufflet in the trees. Cause u can go there every 6h and its a strong poke with gw i think its really fair as it is. Just be patient, u gonna find one.
i know it's not very rare in trainer's valley
but all we want is "gale wings"
just like staraptor, all we want is reckless
it's really hard to find a gales wings one
and it's almost impossible to find a "good" h.a fletching
that's why even normal gales wings one can sell tongs of money
btw no one cares about the 3 monkeys, no one uses those monkeys in their pvp team
people go to trainer's valley just because fletching and Scyther
and these two pokemons are very popular in pvp
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i spent almost two weeks and i didn't even find a h.a one
People use talonflame just because "gale wings"
since it's so useful and popular, i really think it should be more normal
don't forget, we have to pay 15k each time we entering trainer's valley
and more often we spend 15k and not even find a fletching
it's really depressing :Nervous:
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Can we make talonflame(fletching) more normal ??
talonflame is a very strong pkm in pvp expecially h.a(gale wings) one
can strongly force some invasive pokemons out after them using some moves like sword dance/calm mind
so it's really a useful and popular pokemon in pvp
but we can only catch it by headbutting trees in trainer's valley
it's all about the luck to find a good h.a talon flame
and if we want to buy it, even a normal gales wings one costs a lot
can u make talonflame(fletching) more normal just like MS-only pokemon in grass ??
and we can hunt in and farm it
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200356200339200311 Focus Punch (do damage in the first turn)
if i can permit, that move is supposed to work like that isn't it?
the move has a negative priority and only hits when the poke using it isn't hit in the same turn :
A -> poke using focus punch ; B -> opposite poke
A is focusing, B hits with anything, A doesn't launch focus punch
A is focusing, B use a statut move, or switch, A launch focus punch
all is happening in the same turn.
i made a few test (sadly i don't have any records software, but someone else could do it) with pokes who outspeed the focus punch user and pokes with less speed, and the move seems to works properly.
Zeloups
We'll check this one further, thank you for the report. :)
also could u pls check "speed boost" also to see if it is bugged or it just supposed to be like that ? :D:
Speed Boost:Speed raises at end of turn.
when u switch pkm in, ur pkm will also get hit by enemy's pkm and then end this turn.
Is speed boost supposed to be activated when u switch in or not ??
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1. i want to know if we can use speed boost if we don't switch pkm out and switch speed boost one in.
just switch in the speed boost pkm after the former pkm was dead.
i tested, if i switch in speed boost pkm in after the former pkm was dead then the speed boost will not be activated when it switch in.
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2. if we don't use Stockpile more than 3 times, can we still use it ??
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700k :Smile:
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ty for offering :Smile:
Ranked PvP Rules.
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i said PRO is different from other pokemon games
does other games have so many pokemons, abilities, moves, items unavailabe or uncoded ??
have u ever seen so many talonflames in pvp in other pokemon games ??
think about the question :Cool: