Come back blaziken and mega-mawile

[Samodrax]

In view of the fact that in high ratings the stall is abused a lot, I wanted to suggest the inclusion of blaziken with ha and mega mawile because they are good counters against many popular walles, helping so that the meta changes to one where none of the 6 players uses 5 wall in the team making the fights faster, many people say they are broken, but the truth is that it is not so, blaziken is tanked by many common pokemon such as landorus dragonite or even the defensive garchomp, in addition to his movepool It is quite known which makes it difficult for him to stay a turn to boosting because of course nobody would leave him a turn and even worse even if he boosted once there are pokes that tank him, I refer to the results that blaziken has in 1v1 in sword and shield, in terms of a mega mawile although it has a lot of attack, the reality is that it is extremely fragile it can overcome one or another pokemon with suckert punch but being very obvious this strategy becomes difficult for it to be an effective sweeper I have also very common counter in the meta of the game such as normal and mega swamper, landorus and houndoom, here many players would be willing to use different pokemon other than skarñori landorus, clefayri, chancey and ferrotonr, I think it would make the competitive a little more varied instead of waiting 90 turns for a winner to be decided, by the way the only reason why blaziken was banned from ubers was because of the combination of batom pass that if he was imbalanced but since it was no longer possible this was no longer so powerful , and in the current meta where there is not even the complete dex and there are no megabytes, it remained for a long time in UU, rising recently but without reaching ou, as for mawile it was never directly banned in the competitive, of course a terrifying attack but nothing it works if you die first

[G3n3r4l]

Yes and while we're at it let's unban more pokes to ruin the meta.

 

Anyways, there are many ways to counter stall already in the game. The simple move of "Taunt" already does a great job at handling it. Main concern here, is that you say this:

2 hours ago, samodrax said:

because of course nobody would leave him a turn

The whole point is to find the turn, if you make a dumb switch in, obviously you'll have problems. If you bring blaziken in on a ferrothorn for example, what's he gonna do against it other than switch out. Which directly gives you that one turn.

 

2 hours ago, samodrax said:

normal and mega swamper, landorus and houndoom

+2 252+ Atk Huge Power Mawile-Mega Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Swampert: 313-369 (91.7 - 108.2%) -- 50% chance to OHKO

+2 252+ Atk Huge Power Mawile-Mega Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Swampert-Mega: 265-312 (77.7 - 91.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (any type of chip and it's dead)

+2 252+ Atk Huge Power Mawile-Mega Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Landorus-Therian: 315-371 (98.7 - 116.3%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

+2 252+ Atk Huge Power Mawile-Mega Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Houndoom-Mega: 157-185 (53.9 - 63.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

 

The only accurate one you listed there is houndoom, however, nobody plays houndoom.

 

2 hours ago, samodrax said:

as for mawile it was never directly banned in the competitive

I'm just reading this now with this quote here makes me directly assume you know little for PvP in itself and rather just hate stall in it. Mega Mawile was directly banned for being too powerful in the Gen 6 metagame, there are multiple threads you can find about it in detail on smogon, here's on listed for you that you can read over and understand why it was properly banned in gen 6: https://www.smogon.com/smog/issue37/mega-mawile

[Samodrax]

Based on the previous announcement I must define "Anyways, there are many ways to counter stall already in the game. The simple move of" Taunt "already does a great job at handling it" Of course I am not saying that options such as taunt are bad, only that I It seems unnecessary to ban the Pokémon that were mentioned and different ways to counteract the stall would be great, but also most of the strategies against the stall are not effective. show that the case of your example using "taunt" although it is good does not prevent the existence of 5 walls and 1 sweeper.

"The whole point is to find the turn, if you make a dumb switch in, obviously you'll have problems. If you bring blaziken in on a ferrothorn" specific case of blaziken against ferrotorn means a poisoned paralyzed blaziken if blaziken then change to the omnipresent landorus gliscor and blaziken would have nothing to do, to attack blaziken, the only physical attack capable of getting down to a ferrotorn with full defense is with flare blitz, nor higt jump kick and blaze kick are enough (without life orb) which means that your sweeper stays at the mercy of mid-life because like mega beedrill, quadsweer landorus any pokmon with 288 speed and scarf notece the pattern that if he is very defensive and blaziken cannot do much, you will say pon prtec, lake that is easily predictable that leads to actually giving the opponent a turn, I mean, blaziken in front of a ferrotorn is not directly a sword dance and win, but regarding what you say regarding pokes that cannot do much against it, forcing to change, in fact, there are many pokemons with better movepool for arrazar, for example haxours garchomp or mega gyarados, I explain those situations are base in the game and precisely the movepool that blaziken has to take advantage of those situations are not good enough (in terms of power) to download important threats azumariill, landorus, sash, dragonite, salmance etc, this would be different with the possibility of teach nasty plot to blaziken there if what you propose is fulfilled, because now the counters change depending on whether it is physical or special which greatly improves the movepool and last but not least the couunters for special blaziken are not so common, but good as this is not nasty plot available for blaziken this possibility is ruled out.

"+2 252+ Atk Huge Power Mawile-Mega Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Swampert: 313-369 (91.7 - 108.2%) - 50% chance to OHKO +2 252+ Atk Huge Power Mawile-Mega Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Swampert-Mega: 265-312 (77.7 - 91.4%) - guaranteed 2HKO (any type of chip and it's dead) +2 252+ Atk Huge Power Mawile-Mega Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Landorus-Therian: 315-371 (98.7 - 116.3%) - 93.8% chance to OHKO +2 252+ Atk Huge Power Mawile-Mega Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Houndoom-Mega: 157-185 (53.9 - 63.5%) - guaranteed 2HKO " I invite you to realize that with everything and that you put a sword dance you are unable to kill anyone, "landorus also comes in with intimidation", then mawile also needs a precious turn that of course no one in their right mind would give it and being a sucker punch the most obvious movement that it has the handical that also can leave open space for the enemy to actually boost in his face and burn it or put it to sleep, worse because the same mega gyarados enters with intimidation, he boosts himself in his face and when he wants to make a sucker punch, the only option mega gyarados tankea kills your mega and remains boosted in the field with a good amount of life, although mega mawile is very strong and would definitely be dangerous in the meta this would not be as decisive as it is posed in fact mega loupuni is even more dangerous causing its use to drop a lot

"Mawile was directly banned for being too powerful in the Gen 6 metagame" I recognize my mistake in this section I had the memory that I was not banned, although it seems to me that in the same way it could be a good pokemon in pvp without centralizing the meta for the aforementioned.

I have already established my points please do not fall into disqualifications, there is no need for it, I also clarify that it is not like "I hate the stall" is part of the game and I understand the importance, the core of my suggestion is to avoid centralizing the game to some pokemon or styles nothing else, I am not a genius in pvp but I have enough knowledge of pvp and that is why I leave arguments and not complaints, also the inclusion of these pokes does not directly mean that the stall will disappear it is naive to think that, what it really implies is that just the pokemons that walk the most in the current meta are not basically mandatory due to the presence of the pokes already mentioned, making the use of other pokemons more accessible