1M Buy-In PvP Tournament (Gold & Silver) – Aug 31, 2025 – Top 5 Places Paid

[Itssoham]

Username : ItsSoham

Server : Gold

Country/Timezone : India / GMT+5:30

 

I would also be registering for a friend since hes busy rn and would miss the registration end date. I would be paying on his behalf as well.

 

Username : Ap0ca1ypse

Server : Gold

Country/Timezone : India/GMT+5:30

[Lugario]

14 hours ago, Sergioaguero said:

bruv you didnt even enter the tournament why you care?

 

With that attitude, I am not going to answer to you.

 

14 hours ago, Ykhtsu said:

Now, I really don't get your point. Even if this tournament is hosted on Showdown, it would still follow PRO's rules, isn’t that enough to establish a proper correlation? The purpose of using Showdown is mainly for practice and ensuring that all matches are conducted correctly, with the added of testing skill rather than how long someone took to catch a """perfect""" Pokémon, which can be interpreted as either a positive or negative aspect, depending on perspective.

After all, this was a suggestion that I and Subhammaster brought to Lacomus due to some limitations in PRO that could cause issues, such as:
- Replays can be lost, since there is a limited amount we can check in our accounts.
- Players from different servers might get stuck on one server and be unable to complete their battles.
- While PRO's in-game PvP resources are improving, they are still somewhat unreliable. For instance, it might lack key information like the date the battle was played, the format used, and other details that could be useful for verification.
 

These are some of the scenarios I had in mind when I proposed moving the tournament to Showdown.

 

Like you said, Showdown is for Practice. Many players practice different teams and strategies at Showdown before they implement them in PRO for their "normal" PvP matches. Now maybe you get part of my point and why it should be in PRO? 

 

Also perfect IVs Pokemon are like genned Pokemon which is a very controversial topic, and I'm personally against genned Pokemon. People should fight with what they have, either caught or bought or lended worse case scenario. It is a legit Pokemon and not a fake one. Having a legit good IVs Pokemon in your possession is also a result of skill issues and not just a matter of time. 

 

I could argue that Showdown is a place where it needs less real PvP skills because it is easier to manipulate and exploit it to win using things like damage calculator, while that isn't the deal in PRO. 

 

For verification like you said, when people enter to the tournament should be counted reliable and their verification legit. But you could just add that both parties directly screenshot their matches or record their game while they do their PvP matches. We are in 2025 and not in 2005 where something like that wasn't possible or easy. Another solution if there was a indication of something not being done according to rules, you could just ask staff to check for you.

 

The only point I give you is about the different servers. But.. after registrations are over you could see how many are registered from each server and try to make it either like a cup, so not everyone would need to fight everyone but rather x battles to get to the next stage and so people from each server fight their opponents from the same server untill they proceed to final steps. People change servers for less important reasons. 

 

Anyways, that's just my humble opinion.

Edited 8 hours ago by Lugario

[Ykhtsu]

2 hours ago, Lugario said:

Like you said, Showdown is for Practice. Many players practice different teams and strategies at Showdown before they implement them in PRO for their "normal" PvP matches. Now maybe you get part of my point and why it should be in PRO? 

Lugario, I think you misunderstood my point, let me clarify: when I said that Showdown would be used for practice, I wasn't referring to practicing gameplay or testing teams, I meant the practicality of hosting and organizing the tournament due to reliable replays, automatic record of details, no server lock issues, etc.The focus here is to ensure matches are conducted correctly and verifiably and bringing up the argument that "Showdown is just for practice" completely misses the context, since the point was never about gameplay, but about tournament infrastructure.

 

2 hours ago, Lugario said:

Also perfect IVs Pokemon are like genned Pokemon which is a very controversial topic, and I'm personally against genned Pokemon. People should fight with what they have, either caught or bought or lended worse case scenario. It is a legit Pokemon and not a fake one. Having a legit good IVs Pokemon in your possession is also a result of skill issues and not just a matter of time. 

About "legit" Pokémon, that’s entirely relative... what exactly defines legitimacy? Someone could spend 90 days hunting for a perfect IV Pokémon, while another person could generate the same one with PKSM in 5 minutes, as long as the Pokémon is possible to obtain, both are technically legit, even if you disagree. That's a discussion that has long been settled in official VGC tournaments, and also in PRO, since there's a lot of generated Pokemon's that were given for the Ladder Tournaments winners, in the end, players are allowed to bring Pokémon that were generated or modified, provided they are legal and possible within the game.
 

But, how exactly is obtaining high IVs a skill? IVs are determined by RNG, the process is mostly about repetition and patience until the right spread appears, that doesn't really reflect player skill, but rather time investment and luck, that's all.

 

2 hours ago, Lugario said:

I could argue that Showdown is a place where it needs less real PvP skills because it is easier to manipulate and exploit it to win using things like damage calculator, while that isn't the deal in PRO. 

I couldn't disagree more about Showdown being a place that needs less PvP skill, you can use all the resources you mentioned in PRO aswell.

 

2 hours ago, Lugario said:

For verification like you said, when people enter to the tournament should be counted reliable and their verification legit. But you could just add that both parties directly screenshot their matches or record their game while they do their PvP matches. We are in 2025 and not in 2005 where something like that wasn't possible or easy. Another solution if there was a indication of something not being done according to rules, you could just ask staff to check for you.

Suggesting that a mere screenshot from both players is sufficient is highly unreliable, since screenshots can easily be manipulated or falsified, so depending on players to self-verify matches is not a robust solution, and saying that any suspected rule violations can simply be resolved by asking staff is, frankly, unrealistic. If it were truly simple, we wouldn’t even need a staff review process.

 

2 hours ago, Lugario said:

The only point I give you is about the different servers. But.. after registrations are over you could see how many are registered from each server and try to make it either like a cup, so not everyone would need to fight everyone but rather x battles to get to the next stage and so people from each server fight their opponents from the same server untill they proceed to final steps. People change servers for less important reasons. 

Finally, about servers, I agree that organizing brackets by server could mitigate some issues, though it doesn’t fully solve the underlying logistical challenges

[Rhulk]

Homie… just use PRO for a PRO tournament.  Anything else makes zero sense.   If you want to host a “Showdown” Tournament then call it what it is. 

[Ykhtsu]

Rhulk as always being a really constructive user

[Beachboybwustur]

Username Beachboybwustur

 

Server: Silver

 

Country: Brazil GMT -3

[Sergioaguero]

3 hours ago, Lugario said:

 

With that attitude, I am not going to answer to you.

 

 

Like you said, Showdown is for Practice. Many players practice different teams and strategies at Showdown before they implement them in PRO for their "normal" PvP matches. Now maybe you get part of my point and why it should be in PRO? 

 

Also perfect IVs Pokemon are like genned Pokemon which is a very controversial topic, and I'm personally against genned Pokemon. People should fight with what they have, either caught or bought or lended worse case scenario. It is a legit Pokemon and not a fake one. Having a legit good IVs Pokemon in your possession is also a result of skill issues and not just a matter of time. 

 

I could argue that Showdown is a place where it needs less real PvP skills because it is easier to manipulate and exploit it to win using things like damage calculator, while that isn't the deal in PRO. 

 

For verification like you said, when people enter to the tournament should be counted reliable and their verification legit. But you could just add that both parties directly screenshot their matches or record their game while they do their PvP matches. We are in 2025 and not in 2005 where something like that wasn't possible or easy. Another solution if there was a indication of something not being done according to rules, you could just ask staff to check for you.

 

The only point I give you is about the different servers. But.. after registrations are over you could see how many are registered from each server and try to make it either like a cup, so not everyone would need to fight everyone but rather x battles to get to the next stage and so people from each server fight their opponents from the same server untill they proceed to final steps. People change servers for less important reasons. 

 

Anyways, that's just my humble opinion.

keep crying about what the tour does while you are still not signed up buddy

[Rhulk]

36 minutes ago, Ykhtsu said:

Rhulk as always being a really constructive user

All I said was I was dropping out if it’s not a PRO tournament. And you started in on me.   Don’t be toxic and there is no issue. I didn’t need your response to me dropping out.  

[Prayforstefan]

c0mp can't sign up.

[Itssoham]

The host already said that it would be decided by a majority vote. You can just join the server and vote there for where you want the tournament to be. I don't think we should be arguing here about the format or anything.