Ban leech seed ? Are u serious?

[Fatmanclt]

339089 some pokes are useless without leech seed?

 

some pokes are useless too without other not coded moves/abillities too

also some pokes are useless without mega evolve

 

whatever is banned till fixed not gonna take long since it worked well back then

 

Yeah there is lot of thing that arn't in the game for the moment, but u can't ban a important move like this before a tournament.

[Rekkuza]

339087 U can't do this. U destroyed all the meta

Yeah, one move being banned = meta is destroyed.

 

Simply, Fatman, if you have an issue with it just dont play PvP. Thats all i can say. We are not going to keep an unfair bugged move that gives a big advantage compared to what it should actually give (due to said bug) in Ranked PvP just because you have a Tang or Ferro in your team. Its not going to happen. I understand Leech Seeds removal hinders some pokemon's capability, however as Sitzei has stated;

339089 some pokes are useless too without other not coded moves/abillities too

also some pokes are useless without mega evolve

 

Now, watch your language and behavior on forums, if you have such an issue with this change make a complaint and take your distress out there, but on the public forum you will post with respect for others and the rules = not everyone wants to see an F followed with several stars for effect.

[Fatmanclt]

If leech seed was banned 1months ago, I will not say the same, because u can prepare our team to the tournament and the new meta.

 

They just changed the meta before a tournament, where is the logic ?

[Ka1er]

339077 Ferrothorn: Spikes, T-wave, Gyro Ball, Power Whip

Nice move set i guess i will have fun with my ferrothorn now :Smile:

[Fatmanclt]

339096

339087 U can't do this. U destroyed all the meta

Yeah, one move being banned = meta is destroyed.

 

Simply, Fatman, if you have an issue with it just dont play PvP. Thats all i can say. We are not going to keep an unfair bugged move that gives a big advantage compared to what it should actually give (due to said bug) in Ranked PvP just because you have a Tang or Ferro in your team. Its not going to happen. I understand Leech Seeds removal hinders some pokemon's capability, however as Sitzei has stated;

339089 some pokes are useless too without other not coded moves/abillities too

also some pokes are useless without mega evolve

 

Now, watch your language and behavior on forums, if you have such an issue with this change make a complaint and take your distress out there, but on the public forum you will post with respect for others and the rules = not everyone wants to see an F followed with several stars for effect.

Well played, again don't answer.

Yes u have killed my team that I take like 3 months to prepare, yes im ungry, and yes your decision to ban and killed two overused poke before a tournament is scandalous. U just changed a meta. WP

[Chameleon]

339089 some pokes are useless without leech seed?

 

some pokes are useless too without other not coded moves/abillities too

also some pokes are useless without mega evolve

 

whatever is banned till fixed not gonna take long since it worked well back then

This is a different case though. The teams for the upcoming tournament are submitted and you can't judge how much people value their leech seeders. Other not coded moves/abilities as well as mega evolutions were known prior to the submission of teams for the tournament, so that doesn't affect anything.

 

Just to clarify, I'm not taking part in the tournament and I don't have a single leech seed user in my PC.

 

Also @Kagawa & Rekkuza, losing leech seed may not be "team killing", but the same can be said about its accuracy. While it may be annoying, 90% -> 100% isn't a huge difference and it's not a 'match killer'. I'm not denying that it may decide the outcome of a battle on certain occasions, but the loss of leech seed can also decide who progresses or not in the upcoming tournament. For those who had submitted Pokemon with leech seed of course...

[Rekkuza]

339098 If leech seed was banned 1months ago, I will not say the same, because u can prepare our team to the tournament and the new meta.

 

They just changed the meta before a tournament, where is the logic ?

Do you realise it was actually reported just days ago? Not months ago? Had it been raised in the past it would have been banned from that point. Also, as i really dont want to be repeating myself 20 times for you to understand, please can you look at my second response to NamelessHero, the reasoning is there, please try and see from our view as to why we had to ban it and my acknowledgement of the awkward timing.

 

If this topic continues on this one way path of arguing and slating the decision im just going to lock the topic.

[Rekkuza]

339103 Also @Kagawa & Rekkuza, losing leech seed may not be "team killing", but the same can be said about its accuracy. While it may be annoying, 90% -> 100% isn't a huge difference and it's not a 'match killer'. I'm not denying that it may decide the outcome of a battle on certain occasions, but the loss of leech seed can also decide who progresses or not in the upcoming tournament. For those who had submitted Pokemon with leech seed of course...

339076 Leech Seed has 100% accuracy when it should only have 90% and also takes a full 12% boost even when the opposing Pokemon is on 1HP, therefore this is bugged, and as such will not be allowed to be used whilst it remains a broken move.

Please read the above^ - its not just an accuracy bug.

[Chameleon]

339105

339103 Also @Kagawa & Rekkuza, losing leech seed may not be "team killing", but the same can be said about its accuracy. While it may be annoying, 90% -> 100% isn't a huge difference and it's not a 'match killer'. I'm not denying that it may decide the outcome of a battle on certain occasions, but the loss of leech seed can also decide who progresses or not in the upcoming tournament. For those who had submitted Pokemon with leech seed of course...

339076 Leech Seed has 100% accuracy when it should only have 90% and also takes a full 12% boost even when the opposing Pokemon is on 1HP, therefore this is bugged, and as such will not be allowed to be used whilst it remains a broken move.

Please read the above^ - its not just an accuracy bug.

Yeah well that's also not a huge difference either and would probably not occur often. And I'd appreciate it if you read my post again, as that was not just a post based on accuracy, I had more points in it.

[Fatmanclt]

Now Gyra win vs ferro/ tang

Now tang can't leech seed magnezone and go back.

Now ferro will be destroy by garchomp (with sand veil who normally is a banned aby)

Now Tang can't counter garchomp perfectly.

Now this two poke are useless and can't leech seed to the switch. That normally force a switch out.

Now Tang/ferro will lose vs blissey.

Now tang ferro will struggle vs mitotic.

Now Goth can come more easily on ferro/Tang without fear about leech seed. + leech seed will not help the next poke.

 

U DESTROYED THE META BEFORE A TOURNAMENT !