Defeat Bosses with the less number of Poke (New Greinjack added)

[Chameleon]

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<r><QUOTE author="PurpleMauth"><s>

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I based a strategy off this. Modest Lightning Rod Seaking (29 SP.Atk IVs. Seaking knows agility, surf, ice beam and hyper beam. was holding a focus sash) and this is what happened:<br/>

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Palkia spammed thunder non stop. Used agility in the mean time, and slowly whittled down his health. I mostly used surf, because Palkia has Pressure. You need to keep your ice beams for later. Conkeldurr gets 1 shot by surf at +6. Yveltal lived with less than 10% of its health from an ice beam. It used acrobatics, my focus sash saved me, I killed it. Kingdra took an ice beam easily, had around 40% health left. Im not sure if Hyper Beam would be enough to one shot it, but maybe. So, at this point my seaking was down. I happen to have a Hydreigon, so Dragon Pulse killed it easily. GreinjacK put in his Hydreigon, I went first, hit him for over 50% with another dragon pulse, he revenge killed me with Focus Blast. I switched to conkeldurr, Hydreigon used zen headbutt (it did nothing cause Hydreigon's atk stat is trash) and I drain punched to kill him, then mach punched mega lucario. Mega Lucario killed me with something, I dont remember, I sent out breloom, mach punch to win.<br/>

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What I would change - Give Seaking NeverMeltIce/LifeOrb. Life Orb, if you have access to it, should allow you one smack the Kingdra with hyper beam, allowing you to get to Hydreigon where (in theory) itll use Thunder Fang non stop and the rest turn doesnt matter. So it would go, stack up on palkia, 1 shot conkeldurr, 1 shot yveltal, hopefully one shot kingdra, ice beam hydreigon, and you're left with the lucario, which Chameleon described many ways to deal with it. <br/>

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Possible other strategies - Lead with a swampert and focus sash (I dont know if this is necessary, but it just makes the odds 100%) to get stealth rocks up (if no access to life orb/nevermeltice). The rocks will make sure yveltal drops, and gives you extra damage on all pokes. Will likely also help with the Kingdra problem. <br/>

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Tyranitar can also set up rocks, however will almost certainly need a focus sash to stay alive. Will also provide passive sandstorm damage which can be a good or bad thing.<br/>

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Weavile would be extremely valuable for this fight - should be able to revenge kill the Kingdra, deal with a damage hydreigon, and hit mega lucario.<e>

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Great info, thanks a lot. <br/>

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Yesterday I thought about using Hyper Beam to deal specifically with Kingdra since Ice Beam didn't OHKO according to my calculations. But I was basing it on having double team on Seaking and realized it actually doesn't get it today so I came up with the Hail + Blizzard (+Aqua Ring to nullify Hail dmg) strategy. Considering you managed around 60% damage on Kingdra, Seaking with Life Orb + Blizzard should take it out in one hit. Especially with stealth rocks up, which is a great shout. I didn't even consider that, so thanks a lot for it. <br/>

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Carracosta or h.a. Relicanth could be used to set up rocks and for those who do not want to waste focus sash since it has sturdy, unless Thunder Paralyzes it and it can't move that turn. <br/>

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It's great to know that you were able to knock Lucario out with 2 Mach Punches too. I was afraid it would use some sort of priority against Breloom and OHKO it. <E>:thanks:</E></r>

[Chameleon]

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<r><QUOTE author="PurpleMauth"><s>

</s><POST content="365095"><s></s>365095<e></e></POST> <QUOTE author="chameleon"><s>

</s><POST content="365088"><s></s>365088<e></e></POST> <QUOTE author="NamelessHero27"><s>

</s><POST content="365062"><s></s>365062<e></e></POST> Did you already tried that?<e>

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Nope, I have about a week till Greinjack resets for me. I'll definitely try it unless someone else does before me & fails.<e>

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One of my guildies used the Hail+Aqua Ring+Blizzard+Agility Seaking with Life Orb strategy (he had 3 layers of spikes). It almost sweeped through the entire team:<br/>

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<IMG src="https://i.imgur.com/uq6rGxd.png"><s></e></IMG><br/>

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It died to Hail damage afterwards. Any mach punch should finish Lucario off.</r>

[Namelesshero27]

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<t>Nice.</t>

[Purplemauth]

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<r><QUOTE author="chameleon"><s>

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Nope, I have about a week till Greinjack resets for me. I'll definitely try it unless someone else does before me & fails.<e>

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What used spikes that was able to live 3 turns against a Palkia?</r>

[Chameleon]

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<r><QUOTE author="PurpleMauth"><s>

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What used spikes that was able to live 3 turns against a Palkia?<e>

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Focus Sash Greninja and thunder missed twice. :D</r>

[Wtfuun]

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<r>I'm not an expert on this boss ,but for "Greninja" i used a cheap & easy way (at least to me!) <br/>

if that help anybody here is what i did :<br/>

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Fisrt : 5/6 "Flash" on Palkia .i used Umbreon/Drapion/Golduck for that (Drapion/Golduck with Focus Sash)<br/>

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next switch to Tentacruel and use the good old "Acupressure" move till all the stuff are boosted three time (at least spdef & def & spatk) ..<br/>

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you may need some "Revival Herb" .<br/>

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<IMG src="https://s20.postimg.org/8izd216v1/Sans_titre.png"><s></e></IMG><br/>

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as a reward i got the ""ultimate"" item of the game : <SPOILER><s>

</s>a Damp Rock <E>:Ambivalent:</E><e>

</e></SPOILER></r>

[Namelesshero27]

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<t>Added Gingery Jones.</t>

[Nicochan]

Re: Defeat Bosses with the less number of Poke

 

<r><QUOTE author="chameleon"><s>

</s><POST content="365055"><s></s>365055<e></e></POST> <QUOTE author="NamelessHero27"><s>

</s><POST content="364041"><s></s>364041<e></e></POST>I still have to find out how to win. My cooldown (3rd win) ended There's a possibility that even a modest Seaking with +6 spatk, holding Life Orb cannot OHKO Kingdra with Ice Beam (who may KO in return). So I thought about what can be done and here it is: Use Blizzard, Hail and Aqua Ring on Seaking (Aqua Ring will nullify Hail damage). Life Orb is probably necessary.<br/>

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Credit to Aurusine for the initial idea.<e>

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Thank you. I have try your moveset out, blizzard,aqua ring ,hail ,agility , Modest life orb Seaking without any entry hazzard, blizzard deal around 70% to Mega lucario,and mach punch breloom to KO it.<br/>

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<IMG src="https://i.imgur.com/kJfQbVN.png"><s></e></IMG><br/>

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Btw to K.O the Mega lucario ,I think replace the aqua ring with surf is enough (need to watch out the damage deal by hail and life orb, keep it healthy by feed pot during conkel if didnt use aqua ring)<br/>

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p/s need to max out the pp of blizzard and feed a leppa berry when facing conkeldurr,because pressure of palkia will burn the pp of blizzard.</r>

[Nicochan]

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<r><QUOTE author="WTFUUN"><s>

</s><POST content="365604"><s></s>365604<e></e></POST> I'm not an expert on this boss ,but for "Greninja" i used a cheap & easy way (at least to me!) <br/>

if that help anybody here is what i did :<br/>

<br/>

Fisrt : 5/6 "Flash" on Palkia .i used Umbreon/Drapion/Golduck for that (Drapion/Golduck with Focus Sash)<br/>

<br/>

next switch to Tentacruel and use the good old "Acupressure" move till all the stuff are boosted three time (at least spdef & def & spatk) ..<br/>

<br/>

you may need some "Revival Herb" .<br/>

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<IMG src="https://s20.postimg.org/8izd216v1/Sans_titre.png"><s></e></IMG><br/>

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as a reward i got the ""ultimate"" item of the game : <SPOILER><s>

</s>a Damp Rock <E>:Ambivalent:</E><e>

</e></SPOILER><e>

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Interesting team btw I get damp rock too</r>

[Chameleon]

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<r><QUOTE author="NicoChan"><s>

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</s>Thank you. I have try your moveset out, blizzard,aqua ring ,hail ,agility , Modest life orb Seaking without any entry hazzard, blizzard deal around 70% to Mega lucario,and mach punch breloom to KO it.<br/>

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<IMG src="https://i.imgur.com/kJfQbVN.png"><s></e></IMG><br/>

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Btw to K.O the Mega lucario ,I think replace the aqua ring with surf is enough (need to watch out the damage deal by hail and life orb, keep it healthy by feed pot during conkel if didnt use aqua ring)<br/>

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p/s need to max out the pp of blizzard and feed a leppa berry when facing conkeldurr,because pressure of palkia will burn the pp of blizzard.<e>

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Thank you for all the info. I totally forgot about maxing out PP, which is a very important detail.<br/>

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And yeah I was not entirely sure if Aqua Ring was needed, but still thought I'd have it in there because I didn't know how many Blizzards it would've taken to knock Palkia & Conkeldurr out. Though as you said, there is an opportunity to heal up against Conkeldurr and Hydreigon (Thunder Fang) so I guess Aqua Ring isn't really a must.<br/>

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Glad you won.</r>