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    Hunt Guide - How to be well prepared

    in Game Mechanics

    Posted

    Re: Hunt Guide — How to be well prepared

     

    <r><QUOTE author="Neroli" post_id="451658" time="1507372776" user_id="1680020"><s>

    </s><B><s></s><U><s></s>How to find your target<e></e></U><e></e></B><br/>

    You would like to hunt for Flabebe but you don't know where to find it ? You would like to know if Deino can be found at night ? <br/>

    Check our <URL url="https://prowiki.info/index.php?title=Main_Page"><s></s>PRO Wiki<e></e></URL> or even our <URL url="https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=399152#p399152"><s></s>complete PRO Pokedex<e></e></URL>. <br/>

    You'll find there all the information you need about the spawn locations of the Pokemon you'd like to hunt.<br/>

    <SIZE size="65"><s></s><I><s></s>© Jingos<e></e></I><e></e></SIZE><e>

    </e></QUOTE>

    Tricks :

    <LIST><s>

    </e></LIST>

     

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    <QUOTE author="Neroli" post_id="451658" time="1507372776" user_id="1680020"><s>

    </s>

    If a Pokemon with Synchronize is in the first place in the party, any wild encountered Pokemon has a 50% chance of having the same nature as the Pokemon with this Ability.<e>

    </e></QUOTE>According to some theories, the probability is 52% not 50%. Because the Synchronize give you 50% on the right nature, then choose between the 25 natures if fail : so for the right nature: 50% + 50%/25 = 50% + 2% = 52%<br/>

    But, Synchronize can also be : 50% on the right nature, then choose between the 24 others natures if fail. <br/>

    It depends how it's coded. If someone has the answer, can be nice :) <br/>

    <br/>

    <br/>

     

    <QUOTE author="Neroli" post_id="451658" time="1507372776" user_id="1680020"><s>

    </s><SIZE size="1"><s></s><ANCHOR anchor="repel" content="."><s>[anchor=repel]</s>.<e>[/anchor]</e></ANCHOR><e></e></SIZE><br/>

    <IMG src="https://fontmeme.com/permalink/171007/b3cceecd452eece3adc7e2316866c040.png"><s></e></IMG><br/>

    <COLOR color="#FFDAB9"><s></s>⋯⋯⋯⋯⋯⋯⋯⋯⋯⋯<e></e></COLOR><br/>

    The Repel trick allows you to find the highest-leveled wild Pokemon in an area. <br/>

    To perform it, you need several Repels and a Pokemon at a specific level. <br/>

    I won't explain further this method since everything has been detailed in this guide.<br/>

    <br/>

    <IMG src="https://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/5/5d/Bag_Repel_Sprite.png"><s></e></IMG><IMG src="https://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/717777BagSuperRepelSprite.png"><s></e></IMG><IMG src="https://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/2/2e/Bag_Max_Repel_Sprite.png"><s></e></IMG><br/>

    <br/>

    <URL url="https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=64597"><s></s>▶︎ Repel Trick Spawns ~ All known spawn ◀︎<e></e></URL><br/>

    <SIZE size="65"><s></s><I><s></s>© Prehax<e></e></I><e></e></SIZE><e>

    </e></QUOTE>

    Trick:

    <LIST><s>

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    </e></LIST>

     

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    <QUOTE author="Neroli" post_id="451658" time="1507372776" user_id="1680020"><s>

    </s><SIZE size="1"><s></s><ANCHOR anchor="final" content="."><s>[anchor=final]</s>.<e>[/anchor]</e></ANCHOR><e></e></SIZE><br/>

    <IMG src="https://fontmeme.com/permalink/171007/5b00d602aea4c95a9a24c300f4f9e592.png"><s></e></IMG><br/>

    <COLOR color="#FFDAB9"><s></s>⋯⋯⋯⋯⋯⋯⋯⋯⋯⋯⋯⋯⋯⋯<e></e></COLOR><br/>

    Last but not least, don't forget to buy all items you may need.<br/>

    On Celadon Mall rooftop, you can find a thief NPC who can sell you 50 Poke Ball for<GLOW glow="grey"><s>[glow=grey]</s>9k<e>[/glow]</e></GLOW>.<br/>

    On each safari lobby you can also find an Ultra Ball Maniac who can sell you<GLOW glow="grey"><s>[glow=grey]</s>300 Ultra Balls for 270k<e>[/glow]</e></GLOW>, and<GLOW glow="grey"><s>[glow=grey]</s>600 Ultra Balls for 500k<e>[/glow]</e></GLOW><e>

    </e></QUOTE>

    Trick :

    <LIST><s>

    • </s><LI><s>
    • </s>Always use Pokeball : Almost all the time the most cost-effective in terms of probability per cost. <br/>
      <URL url="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Catch_rate">https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Catch_rate</URL><br/>
      There are some cases where the Ultra Ball seems to be more cost-effective than Pokeball (because PRO makes 600 Ultra Balls for 500k), but i need to look more in detail for it :(<br/>
      Except: For Beldum, the Pokeball is the most cost-effective, but i highly recommend to use Ultra Ball, his bloody Catch Rate makes his catching time very long.</LI><e>

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    <QUOTE author="Neroli" post_id="451658" time="1507372776" user_id="1680020"><s>

    </s><e>
    </e></QUOTE>Btw, nice guide Neroli. And can you stop stealing my formatting with quote everywhere <E>:Angel:</E></r>

    can be closed

    in PvP

    Posted

    Re: Garchomp Sand veil in pvp

     

    <r>If we read exactly the actual rule :<br/>

    <URL url="https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=98&t=34240"><LINK_TEXT text="viewtopic.php?f=98&t=34240">https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=98&t=34240</LINK_TEXT></URL>

    <QUOTE><s>

    </s><LIST><s>
    • </s><LI><B><s></s>Evasion Clause<e></e></B>: A Pokemon may not have <SIZE size="125"><s></s>+<e></e></SIZE>Evasion or <SIZE size="125"><s></s>-<e></e></SIZE>Accuracy moves in its moveset. Using <SIZE size="125"><s></s>+<e></e></SIZE>Evasion moves or <SIZE size="125"><s></s>-<e></e></SIZE>Accuracy reduction moves is forbidden. <COLOR color="#FF0040"><s></s><B><s></s>Screenshot evidence is required.<e></e></B><e></e></COLOR>
      <LIST><s>
      • </s><LI><SIZE size="85"><s></s>Regarding moves with a chance of accuracy/ evasion effects- <U><s></s>All<e></e></U> moves with a chance to reduce accuracy or raise evasion are banned from Ranked PvP.<br/>
        List of moves banned by this clause:<e></e></SIZE>
        <SPOILER><s>
    </s>Acupressure<br/>
    Double Team<br/>
    Flash<br/>
    Kinesis<br/>
    Leaf Tornado<br/>
    Minimize<br/>
    Mirror Shot<br/>
    Mud Bomb<br/>
    Mud-Slap<br/>
    Muddy Water<br/>
    Night Daze<br/>
    Octazooka<br/>
    Sand Attack<br/>
    Secret Power<br/>
    Smokescreen<e>
    </e></SPOILER></LI><e>

    </e></LIST></LI></LIST><e>

    </e></QUOTE>

    Only moves are concerned by this rule. It means we can use ability or items to reduce accuracy or increase evasion.<br/>

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    I recall the existence of a very nice item : Bright Powder. <URL url="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Bright_Powder&redirect=no"><LINK_TEXT text="https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/in ... edirect=no">https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Bright_Powder&redirect=no</LINK_TEXT></URL>

    <QUOTE><s>

    </s>Bright Powder now reduces accuracy of moves targeting the holder by 10% of what their accuracy would be otherwise. <e>
    </e></QUOTE>

    I don't know if this item is coded or not on PRO. But Sand veil + Bright Powder can be very nice in PVP <E>:Shocked:</E><br/>

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    This debate around the ban of Garchomp Sand veil is not new, one year ago, some players already debate about it. If i remember, this Evasion Clause come from accuracy seems to be bugged. I don't know if it's true or not, maybe my memory plays tricks with me. So why Garchomp Sand veil is not ban as well?<br/>

    <br/>

    One argue against the ban of Sand veil at this time was the fact that almost all Garchomp are Sand veil, the Hidden Ability was insane to have. But, this time is over, now we have Black MS to increase the Hidden Ability Rate. And we have a Repel Trick for Gible : <URL url="https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=120&t=64597"><LINK_TEXT text="viewtopic.php?f=120&t=64597">https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=120&t=64597</LINK_TEXT></URL>

    <QUOTE><s>

    </s><LIST><s>
    • </s><LI>Gible ~ Clefable, Lunatone, Solrock ~ Land ~ M/D/N ~ Level 24 ~ Moon</LI><e>

    </e></LIST><e>

    </e></QUOTE>Humans can have Garchomp Rough Skin now <E>:Crazy:</E><br/>

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    If some players still think Garchomp is not OP, i would like to remind my post about the Most common PKM on PVP : <URL url="https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=98&t=69331"><LINK_TEXT text="viewtopic.php?f=98&t=69331">https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=98&t=69331</LINK_TEXT></URL><br/>

    Garchomp is at least in the top 25 : around 10% used. Unfortunately, it's only my own data, and only for yellow. And i don't have the exact distribution of Sand veil and Rough Skin. But, by memory, the number of Rough Skin is still very low. Sand veil stay the most used. <br/>

    <br/>

    So, for me, the debate for the ban of Sand veil should stay open. And my opinion is now inclined towards the ban of Sand veil. But i would like to see what others players have to tell about it before make my final opinion.</r>

    Ranked PvP Rules.

    in PRO Rules

    Posted

    Bugged Moves/ Abilities/ Items - Not Bannable -

    • This category is for moves, abilities & items that are not working as intended but does not makes a player take a loss, nor has a significant impact in PvP.
      Here are the list, with an explanation included

     

    Hidden Power should be add at Bugged Moves :

    https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52447

    https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=60701

     

    To resume: On official game, the Base Power is 60 for 6G. On PRO, the Base Power on description is 60. But when we use the move, the Base Power is only 50!

    492893Sanstitre5.png

     

    This bug strongly reduces Hidden Power efficiency in PVP.

    On Weakness *4, a BP of 50 gives us a move at 200 power instead of 240.

    On Weakness *2, a BP of 50 gives us a move at 100 power instead of 120. Meaning any STAB move with 70 BP on weakness *1 will be stronger than Hidden Power, and 70 BP is pretty easy to have. Even on Weakness *0,5, any STAB move with 135 BP will be stronger than Hidden Power (not a lot i admit).

     

    But, the issue comes from the advantage we supposed to have with Hidden Power, with a BP at 50, Magnezone can't OHKO Scizor and can quickly lose the match-up, same for Roserade Hidden Power Fire versus Ferrothorn, lose the match-up even with a move *4. Others examples can be find, but firsts in mind.

    Up.

     

    I just look at Gastrodon Relaxed EV DEF/HP Hidden Power Fire, after boost with Storm Drain, Versus Ferrothorn Relaxed EV SPDEF/HP:

    HP Fire BP 50 : +1 0 SpA Gastrodon Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Ferrothorn: 144-172 (40.9 - 48.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

    HP Fire BP 60 : +1 0 SpA Gastrodon Hidden Power Fire vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Ferrothorn: 176-208 (50 - 59%) -- 67.2% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

     

    Again, this little "bug" of 50 BP instead of 60 can change a match.

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