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Discussed Item : Protean Greninja Course of action : Testing Justification : 1. Protean Greninja might be a big thread to balanced teams, as it was mentioned, stall teams and hyper offense teams could deal with it. With Keldeo being in the centre of the meta, and it is basicly used on almost every single team on higher ranks, it is a pretty simple counter to Greninja. Also, as it was mentioned, the most used tanks, such as Ferrothorn or Rotom-Wash can check it is moveset, and it can be predicted after the first move. 2. Getting back to the game since Protean Greninja ban, I could see a lot of Weavile in the ranked mode. Weavile is just one of the few pokemons in the current meta that can out speed Greninja, and Ohko it. Other than that, Keldeo, Scarf Landorus can outdpeed and kill it. None the less, the introduction of all mega pokemons, we got Mega Alakazam, an extremely fast and strong pokemon, just like we got Mega Manectric and Mega Lopunny. They are all faster and can easily kill Greninja. 3. Stall teams. They are most likely can afford to defog, and check it is moveset, that lead to advantage over your opponent. Even if the enemy Greninja has HP Grass, and kills Rotom - Wash, you will have the advantage, due to knowing, or atleast having a good guess of it is moveset Hyper offense teams. In these teams, priority moves are necesarry. They are there to deal with faster pokemons, and Greninja isnt an exception. +2 Bisharp can easily 1 hit ko Greninja. These teams often include Keldeo, so it is another solution to deal with it.

Trolling not going to move this topic forward. Inferanepa will pick up kills even without protean. It is in a solid speed tier so theres no problem with that. Super effective moves will kill the opponent mon, especially since Infernape has high Atk stat.

So you can always run hp ice. You can always run psychic poke. You cant afford it every single time. Gen7 is not healthy at all. Atleast not the teams that are 100% meta. Its not idiocy, I just can see the stall rising again. Even more. But this isnt about stall now, lets put it aside. Toxapex with regenerator ability, moves like baneful bunker makes it extremely annoying. Skarmory was just 1 example, players will surely find a way for a "better" stall pair. Players bringing up Garchomp, Gliscor, Zapdos, Tornadus. Without protean, they would All die without exception to Ice Beam. Gliscor 4x weak, Garchomp 4x weak, Zapdos and Tornadus 2x weak to Ice. Why not bringing calculations that are not super eff3ctive against opponent mons? Theres no logic behind this, beacuse we could ban each and every offensive mon, beacuse they can kill several pokemons. Specially with the right moveset.

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They stated focus blast that can miss. They use the word if. Theres no if in pokemon. So this goes to them too.

In this case, theres no argument. Greninja is the same braindead pokemon as the rest, with moveset we already know. Different teams, different tactics. You cant say this should be the only moveset, beacuse its not true.

They are all cancer walls. You guys say Greninja is unhealthy, why these mons combined are unhealthy. Its not possible to protect stall this much.

So Greninja cant miss Gunk shot. Greninja cant miss Hydro Pump. Greninja cant miss any move that has less than 100% accuracy. If its misses, the same result, free kill. And its a miracle, but loses hp to hazards too.