Competitive level balancing

[Skipo]

the philosophy that shane posted a while back "we dont want u to have lvl 100 pokes in a day", no flatbattles and a competitive scenes dont work together, just saying.

 

nobody wants 3 days of leveling for 1 comp or whatever, so flat battles are a must imo.

 

It's a MMO, 3 days leveling a pokemon, for me is ok, the game must not be easy. Imagine if you can have your 6 pokemons at 100 in days. You will lose all the motivation after this.

 

The system is ok, maybe they can add an option for the people who wants to battle at lvl 50, maybe for some rewards, but not for ranked games.

[Sesshomaru]

nvm

[Red]

If you are worried about leveling up your Pokemon I can always remove my custom areas and downscale the levels I did for those Pokemon and maps they are to be found on. Actually no, I am led to believe that most of you never reached those maps given the statement made. In any case, I don't want a player to become competitive in a day. Indeed the end game will be mostly focused on battles and in order to reach there you will need to do some portion of effort. You are confusing the mmo setup with a battle simulator.

[Pretentious]

Quakkz,

 

If you're looking to field a team for competitive battling easily and quickly, then you will not be happy with this game. As I alluded to before, everything you do in Pokemon is related to GRINDING except for strategic PvP battling. Stick with battle simulators if you want a perfect team and are only interested in battling. I'd love to see a high level of skilled battlers in this game, but I can see why this game may not appeal to all Pokemon players equally.

[Sesshomaru]

nvm

[Gilan]

If you are worried about leveling up your Pokemon I can always remove my custom areas and downscale the levels I did for those Pokemon and maps they are to be found on. Actually no, I am led to believe that most of you never reached those maps given the statement made. In any case, I don't want a player to become competitive in a day. Indeed the end game will be mostly focused on battles and in order to reach there you will need to do some portion of effort. You are confusing the mmo setup with a battle simulator.

 

And a level scaling down to 50 for pvp battles would stop that? really...

 

So, you are implying that I can catch 20ish pokemon, and make them comp in 1 day if we have a scale down to 50 system... I call bs on that.

 

Please don't try to argue that someone can be a competitive player with only 6 pokemon, that will just prove how much you don't know about comp.

 

There will still be A LOT of grind and effort with a scale down to 50 system (I think the other MMO has proven that quite well).

 

but I think I will just wait and let you see how much of bs grind will be in the game if we are forced to level all of our pokemon to 100; cause obviously you guys have your minds dead set on it right now, and it will be impossible to convince you otherwise.

 

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also, you guys seem to think that people will automatically want to do comp at 100s. Well, from past experience, what people did was limit themselves to 50 naturally (which auto banned all pokemon who evolved after 50). I would not be surprised if the same thing happens here.

[Emperior]

If it happened on PokèMMO, it doesn't mean it will happen here. On PokèMMO there was the stupid timer for E4 which prevented people from levelling their Pokemon to level 100 easily, now it has been changed but people are still too used to level 50 and that game only has 3rd generation pokes so the metagame pretty much sucks there. Singles SHOULD be lv100 as Smogon OU is to provide a better competitive game, as people are more used to lv100 pokes and EVing a pokemon for lv50 play is a lot different than EVing one for lv100.

[Sesshomaru]

If it happened on PokèMMO, it doesn't mean it will happen here. On PokèMMO there was the stupid timer for E4

 

welcome to the 24h cooldown timer here then on elite 4 :D

[Gilan]

If it happened on PokèMMO, it doesn't mean it will happen here. On PokèMMO there was the stupid timer for E4 which prevented people from levelling their Pokemon to level 100 easily, now it has been changed but people are still too used to level 50 and that game only has 3rd generation pokes so the metagame pretty much sucks there. Singles SHOULD be lv100 as Smogon OU is to provide a better competitive game, as people are more used to lv100 pokes and EVing a pokemon for lv50 play is a lot different than EVing one for lv100.

 

but it's not far fetched to think it might. You would be a fool to dismiss it.

[Red]

And a level scaling down to 50 for pvp battles would stop that? really...

No, it would make it a lot harder like in some other games. Given that you aren't happy with the time needed to invest to level up.

So, you are implying that I can catch 20ish pokemon, and make them comp in 1 day if we have a scale down to 50 system... I call bs on that.

No I am not saying that. Lets see, 20 Pokemon. Propel level scale and Daycare services. I say one week tops.

Please don't try to argue that someone can be a competitive player with only 6 pokemon, that will just prove how much you don't know about comp.

I do not recall saying that. No one ever said we won't have tiers. No one ever said we will only stick to simple one type of a battle.

There will still be A LOT of grind and effort with a scale down to 50 system (I think the other MMO has proven that quite well).

Explain 50 system little better to me please. As for other MMOs, My standards are saying to me that there is a barely any decent pokemon mmo outhere. There is no decent enough Pokemon mmo in my books for now. However, my game is always submitted and opened for a change on a daily basis. We shall see how it will play out eventually. But currently a leading one to be written down in my books. Don't take this as anything confusing. I simply have my own standards and I am working on things together with other staff to get it there. We could simply release the game half year ago and be in slight advantage over other mmos. However, myself and other staff do not want to a game where player effort may be gambled with in the future or massive update done that will have impact on same.

but I think I will just wait and let you see how much of bs grind will be in the game if we are forced to level all of our pokemon to 100; cause obviously you guys have your minds dead set on it right now, and it will be impossible to convince you otherwise.

I am little confused here. Why would you be forced to do anything and especially what is stopping you from building a level 50 team? I am failing to see your point. You aren't forced to level up Pokemon to level 100 to be able to battle with others. You should be aware that people will do level battles such as level 10 battles, level 50 battles, no-evo battles and what not. No one is stopping you from doing these. As for standard over used battle you can have say level 100 tyranitar and level 1 aron and battle. It's really up to you what you will use. You battle on what you agree with your opponent. Remember, we are yet to separate the whole battle system but I am not talking about it in detail.

also, you guys seem to think that people will automatically want to do comp at 100s. Well, from past experience, what people did was limit themselves to 50 naturally (which auto banned all pokemon who evolved after 50). I would not be surprised if the same thing happens here.

Read my paragraph before this one