battle bond greninja = mega greninja

[Alanunbound]

so mega sableye , mega metagross, mega mawile and normal greninja and so is aeigislash are banned , and torrent greninja is just useless , so why not code or fix greninja that when its ability is battle bond it cant use held items.(or an idea : make a custome greninjanite mega stone xd,also i wouldnt mind its ability staying torrent after mega evo )

battle bond greninja and mega sableye are my go to mons and favourites , seeing them banned because "they are OP" pisses me off ( i agree that bb gren with specs/life orb is op btw) but mega sableye seemed unfair , was op on stall teams because of synergy with other mons like chansey , unaware clef and sometimes skarm. pls cosider this because after bans pvp will be really dry and boring.

(also big F for our bois that bid huge amounts for the megas that got banned , feel really sorry for u guys  )

Edited April 24, 2021 by DrayceX

[Liz]

I spent a lot of time and money for a team and now I can't do pvp anymore because of that

[Alanunbound]

2 minutes ago, Liz said:

I spent a lot of time and money for a team and now I can't do pvp anymore because of that

sorry for u bro

 

[Olker]

The money you spent, or how much you like a pokémon doesn't care. It's not a factor that affects the metagame.

 

M. Sableye must be banned.

I can't say the same about Mawile, Gren and Metagross though. BB Greninja maybe, but protean no.

[Alanunbound]

9 minutes ago, ZetLocrito95 said:

The money you spent, or how much you like a pokémon doesn't care. It's not a factor that affects the metagame.

 

M. Sableye must be banned.

I can't say the same about Mawile, Gren and Metagross though. BB Greninja maybe, but protean no.

mega mawile destroys mega sableye , so if one of them is banned i have no problem with the other getting banned too , also BB gren was banned cuz it was op since it used a item , remove the item it becomes a normal mega

Edited April 25, 2021 by DrayceX

[G3n3r4l]

Mawile is basically a singular mega pokemon that can directly wall sableye. Even while burned, Mawile's damage is still near fatal to sableye. Mega sableye basically forced every team to have a fairy type on it, otherwise you simply couldn't kill it. Mawile, could not only beat sableye, but it could also cripple every other team in existance. Many offensive teams would just die to mawile's sucker punch if it were to get to +2, and the rest of it's coverage just made it very dangerous to some of the most common pvp pokes we have, so overall mawile needed a ban. Sableye's ban was basically dependant on that. once mawile was banned, sableye was too. or vice versa. Sableye could also be destructive TO stall teams, with it's magic bounce ability it could just prevent status conditions to ever be put onto your pokemon, as you just bounce them back with it's ability.

 

Removing BB gren's item is just overly complicated. Because BB gren runs sets for hydro vortex (water z move), which is useless until, and after, you use it to all other moves you have. Just making it a mega, in the nicest way to put this, sounds stupid. Yes it is basically a mega, but the requirement to get to ash gren is to kill a pokemon, making it a mega removes that. and then it's op from turn 1.

 

Overall -1 to the whole thing about gren