Bidoof Quest Part 2

[Xouman]

1 hour ago, Lugario said:

 It was done at a working day instead of a Weekend

 

I agree on that,i think that World Quests should be planned on weekends only for obvious reasons.

 

29 minutes ago, Hulfrite said:

The individual % are already counted for the rewards, event if the world quest fail, and the global goal is not reached, you still have mysterious shards as a rewards, that you can exchange for mysterious tickets.

 

I think a good suggestion for this kind of world quests would be to separate the world quest and the forms hunting, or let the forms hunting after the world quest, cause right now, with 5 differents forms, a lot of people, including myself, were farming the forms, and not catching any bidoof after the 0.5% reached. Forms available only if the global goal is reached could be a great motivation for everyone.

 

Ok nice,i thought that individual % didn't count at the end,and yeah i agree about separating the quest & others forms,it will be less confusing and people will be focused fully on the quest instead of farming others forms at the same time & forgetting submitting normal bidoofs to the Cultist like Marouflard said.

 

Edited Tuesday at 11:21 AM by Xouman

[Mysticwind]

+1 this world quest bidoof was at a bad time

Schedule world quest during August when a lot of players take summer vacation, not playing a monday for a Mysterious Ticket after a hard day of work ngl.

Edited Tuesday at 11:37 AM by Mysticwind

[Charcuterie]

Several elements have led to this unfortunate (but, as Marouflard said, not very surprising) failure of the world quest today.

 

- The main issue was that players were given 24 hours, on a working (for most people) day, to hunt 5 forms. There were no indications about the possibility to hunt these at any other moment, and the expected number of forms needed to get all 5 is 5^5/5! which is 26. So, basically, there is a big incentive to hunt these forms, considering 24 hours might very well not be enough to get them all. 

 

- Secondly, as stated before by other people, the world quest happening on a means, for most people, much less time to spend on the game. It also means that it is more difficult to commit on something : you might very well spend 2 hours playing, but if you don't know in advance that you will be able to spend 2 hours on the world quest, you're not going to catch any non-form Bidoof, because of the strong incentive to focus on forms.

 

- Thirdly, there is a structural flaw of the world quest in itself, it is that there are only 2 thresholds : 0.5% and 3%. That means that there is no incentive at all to go the extra mile and reach, for example, 1.5% unless we want to push to 3%. One way to solve it would be for example to give small rewards every .1%, like a few rare candies or whatever. It wouldn't really destroy the economy. The lack of incentive to push for more than 0.5% had this logical consequence : people were submitting just enough to get 0.5% and then went back to farming.

 

Those 3 elements made people not care enough about completing the world quest until the end was very close, and it was of course too late. 

 

Here are my suggestions :

- It doesn't really matter if it is exactly July 1st when the world quest is launched, we literally had Valentine's in June, so it would make more sense to me to make it happen on a weekend

- As Hulfrite said, it would be a much bigger incentive to make the forms a reward for completing the world quests : if people were less in a hurry to get some Bidoof forms (if they were available for one week, for example), they would of course be much more interested in the world quest in itself. Also, adding small rewards for people who go the extra mile after reaching .5% would have almost guaranteed the world quest to be completed.

 

Thanks for reading, I hope you'll like my suggestions.

[Toxicsoggy]

+1 i think it would be benefical to the playerbase to give each server a re-attempt at completion, there was so many issues with so many people across both servers with not being able to logon,  i think both parties would still fail, but many people were left for multipe hours 1/4 day not being able hunt the forms, which in turn was its main reason for people to participate and hunt

[Xouman]

6 minutes ago, Charcuterie said:

The lack of incentive to push for more than 0.5% had this logical consequence : people were submitting just enough to get 0.5% and then went back to farming.

 

Yeah,we saw people saying "i have 0.5% so i stop here",i mean we can't force them to continue farming if they don't want to,but in a collective quest where everybody have to contribute,it's automatically a problem,and like you said in your post,getting more rewards after reaching a certain % is a good idea,it keeps us motivated to not do just the minimum work.

[Digaolcs]

There was others WQ in a Working Day, with tier 9 poké, that was completed. I think that players just don't want hunt a tier 1 poké because is too long. This Bidoof's WQ in 1h30 or 2h to get 0,5%, a tier 9 WQ takes the same time (even more) to complete 0,5%. 

[Digaolcs]

Just now, Xouman said:

 

Yeah,we saw people saying "i have 0.5% so i stop here",i mean we can't force them to continue farming if they don't want to,but in a collective quest where everybody have to contribute,it's automatically a problem,and like you said in your post,getting more rewards after reaching a certain % is a good idea,it keeps us motivated to not do just the minimum work.

 

This is another problem, we don't get any good doing 0,8%, 1%, 1,5%... is 0,5% o 3%, and 600 bidoofs for 3% would take 10h 

[Thezodiac1]

I think that’s not fair, in this way, loosing our time Staff is pushing us to leave this game, recommend to give the Mysterious Ticket to those who deserve it.

Edited Tuesday at 12:22 PM by Thezodiac1

[Sushi]

+1

[Soares1]

+1