avoid guild members in random pvp

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[Digaolcs]

I saw other topic about this and it was denied. Why the Avoid Members in PVP option in Manage Tab doesn't work on Random PVP? 

 

If guild members can't battle against themselves (or it'll be considered as Rank Boost and both can be banned), and this option works on Normal PVP Ranked, why it cannot work in Random Ranked?

[Khlyst]

Hey everyone, I was browsing the forums and came across this idea. Honestly, I think it's a good suggestion for the game, but I also feel like it might get turned down again due to developmental constraints like Norex mentioned before.

 

On 7/17/2024 at 10:37 AM, Norex said:

That suggestion was already denied with reasoning in the past: Here

 

Now, I wouldn't describe myself as uncertain about this idea, but I've observed some inaccuracies being circulated in this discussion that I feel need clarification.

 

On 7/17/2024 at 12:23 PM, Lugario said:

The post you are referring to is about any random ranked opponent. Here it's specified about avoiding guild members in random pvp. You can find this setting in Guild Manage in Social Tab.

 

Your point is not relevant and was clearly addressed by Eaty in the previous suggestion post related to this idea. This suggestion was also discussed internally before both threads, and I think the same points mentioned have remained unchanged since then.

 

On 7/19/2024 at 9:27 AM, Dorade said:

The queue being longer is not a reasonable argument to not add this button.

 

The longer queue is a valid reason for not implementing this feature. Currently, the system is struggling with long wait times in the Ranked PVP Queue. Applying the same situation to Random Ranked would only frustrate the PVP community further, not help them.

 

On 7/19/2024 at 9:27 AM, Dorade said:

As we cannot consider a matchup against a guildmate as a true matchup, you've to instantly draw to avoid being banned for boosting a guildmate or yourself if you play the game.

Between waiting 5min to get an opponent or asking for a draw 5 times in a row until i find somebody else than my guildmate... i know what i prefer

 

Engaging in combat with your guild-mate is perfectly acceptable. I suggest you take a moment to go over our rules, as it seems from your reply that you haven't done that. 
To clarify, boosting between guild-mates is what lead to your account being suspended. If you cannot play fairly, that seems more of a personal issue as we clearly clarified such behavior in our policy enforcement thread.  

 

6 hours ago, Digaolcs said:

I saw other topic about this and it was denied. Why the Avoid Members in PVP option in Manage Tab doesn't work on Random PVP? 

 

If guild members can't battle against themselves (or it'll be considered as Rank Boost and both can be banned), and this option works on Normal PVP Ranked, why it cannot work in Random Ranked?

 

The same point above also applies to you regarding rank boosting. It's acceptable to fight your guild mates. However, fighting your guild-mates to boost your rating by purposely losing or any other reason, as stated in policy enforcement thread provided above, is not allowed.

 

To conclude and also to provide clarification, the adding of Avoid Last Opponent was simply to "reduce boring repetitions that are inevitable in Normal Ranked PvP" as stated before by Eaty.

This feature was not introduced to prevent guild members from rank boosting, as it is perfectly acceptable for guild members to fight against one another. The issue regarding suspensions arises only when we detect connections between the two parties, indicating that their matches are not legitimate; in such cases, we act promptly.

 

Hope this information helps.

Edited Wednesday at 06:04 AM by Khlyst

[Dorade]

On 7/16/2025 at 8:00 AM, Khlyst said:

Engaging in combat with your guild-mate is perfectly acceptable. I suggest you take a moment to go over our rules, as it seems from your reply that you haven't done that. 
To clarify, boosting between guild-mates is what lead to your account being suspended. If you cannot play fairly, that seems more of a personal issue as we clearly clarified such behavior in our policy enforcement thread.  

I know the rules. It is not a matter of playing fairly or not. The rules are written in a way that it is absolutely impossible for anyone to verify if someone queued/disconnected with the intention of boosting or not. Therefore, I cannot put myself in a position where I can potentially get banned on some moderator's interpretation. I know I will never boost anyone. Unfortunately no moderator can put himself into my mind. 

If I want to battle my guildmates, there is an amazing feature called "friendly battles" and I use it gladly.

 

On 7/16/2025 at 8:00 AM, Khlyst said:

The longer queue is a valid reason for not implementing this feature. Currently, the system is struggling with long wait times in the Ranked PVP Queue. Applying the same situation to Random Ranked would only frustrate the PVP community further, not help them.

I am sorry but I can't accept this answer. And I am sure many people won't either. The rand PvP queue hasn't been more active than nowadays, especially since the PvP chests update. Now we wait longer in ranked PvP than in random, because even players with a few hours can queue it, and they do it and it's a great addition to the game ! However if the basis for your statement is to say that there are some moments of the day where queue is long... yes... and i don't think you can do anything about it, not impletementing this feature the community is asking is not gonna change that ! Believe it or not people sleep at some point and the population & timezone repartition is not balanced.

[Khlyst]

2 hours ago, Dorade said:

I know the rules. It is not a matter of playing fairly or not. The rules are written in a way that it is absolutely impossible for anyone to verify if someone queued/disconnected with the intention of boosting or not. Therefore, I cannot put myself in a position where I can potentially get banned on some moderator's interpretation. I know I will never boost anyone.

 

That's wonderful. When it comes to boosters, we have clear and identifiable evidence that can result in a user being suspended. We don't just ban individuals without any supporting evidence for the suspension. Therefore, I can assure you that our rules are straightforward and not based on probability. If you compete against your opponent (even guild mates) fairly, you'll be okay. It's as simple as that.

 

2 hours ago, Dorade said:

However if the basis for your statement is to say that there are some moments of the day where queue is long... yes... and i don't think you can do anything about it, not impletementing this feature the community is asking is not gonna change that ! Believe it or not people sleep at some point and the population & timezone repartition is not balanced.

 

My statement is not founded on a few days of slow-downs, but rather on a few years of data since the implementation of the Ranked PVP option. Our developers have been closely monitoring the ranked queue and are doing their utmost to improve the battle experience when entering matches. I find it completely indisputable that adding this toggle to slow down the Ranked Random queue is necessary. Particularly if the cause to add this function is to avoid receiving a suspension from our team.

 

Though to conclude, I still believe the following I stated in my last reply.

  

On 7/16/2025 at 2:00 AM, Khlyst said:

Honestly, I think it's a good suggestion for the game, but I also feel like it might get turned down again due to developmental constraints like Norex mentioned before.

 

It's really on our developer if they wish to put the effort. In my opinion, adding this function wouldn't be one of them.

Edited 4 hours ago by Khlyst