often when people mention the starters somewhere on youtube they also state this

fire=easy

water=medium

grass=hard

 

The thing that i have always found is water type starters will carry the ability torrent and i just level purely that pokemon rushing through the game abusing their torrent ability which increases the power of their water type moves the lower health they are. i find water types in most games doing this not even requiring a grind.

 

The one thing i can think about fire types is they tend to have better coverage moves, however they dont really have any easy sweeping potential without overleveling from my knowledge

 

opinons on the easyness of a certain element in starter pokemon?

 

side note* i do understand that gen 1, 2 didn't have special abilities so they arent included as part of this.

 

from personal experience the only other type pokemon i have liked using have been all jhoto starters and blaziken im wierd ._.

For me it was always Charmander and Totodile. I play with what I like, but the metagame has warped people's way of playing and enjoying the game. They judge and shame you depending on what you play with.

If we're talking Gen 1. Charmander is the hardest IMO. Brock and Misty? Ouch. So it would go Bulba > Squirtle > Charmander for me.

As the games went on I feel water is definitely the strongest.

35518 For me it was always Charmander and Totodile. I play with what I like, but the metagame has warped people's way of playing and enjoying the game. They judge and shame you depending on what you play with.

If we're talking Gen 1. Charmander is the hardest IMO. Brock and Misty? Ouch. So it would go Bulba > Squirtle > Charmander for me.

As the games went on I feel water is definitely the strongest.

Totally agree with you there.

I chose Charmander in this Pokemon version and it was pretty hard fighting the first 2 gyms. Water would've been the easiest.

Totodile is beast!

Lets see(skills only from lvling):

[highlight=red]Charizard counter 8 types: grass, bugs, steel, ice, dragon, fight, ghost, psychic(Shadow Claw, Dragon Claw, Flare Blitz, Wing Attack).[/highlight]

[highlight=blue]Blastoise counter 6 types: fire, ice, rock, ground, ghost, psychic(Hydropump, Flash Cannon, Bite, Skull Bash).[/highlight]

[highlight=green]Venusaur counter 5 types: bug, grass, ground, rock, water(Poison Powder, Solar Beam, Double Edge, any random of his skills).[/highlight]

 

Probably thats why charmander is the best choise, because we have harder start and easier late game.

 

In each generation fire pokemon have better move set from lvling.

Only with new gen moves, Charmander couldn't learn any of those early on.

Yes but he stil lin older generation have good move sets, better than others like, Dragon Rage or Metal Claw. Still Grass type have the worst move sets in each gen.

Like I say early is really hard for fire pokemons.

In the first two gens he could learn neither of those. It wasn't until the remakes he could.

In first gen you don't have ev trainings, breeding, fairy, steel and dark type of pokemon. You don't have 2 types on one poke. and Charizard can learn Earthquake(so op).

I've never heard anyone ever say that about gen 1. It was (and I assume still is) usually said for gen 1 that Bulbasaur is easy, Squirtle is medium and Charmander is hard. Obviously this is because of the typing of the first 3 gyms. In other generations the order is a little different:

Gen 2: Fire = Water > Grass

Gen 3: Fire > Water > Grass

Gen 4: Fire > Grass > Water

Gen 5: Fire > Water > Grass

Gen 6: Water > Fire > Grass

 

This may be why you think you hear the generalisation that grass pokemon are harder and fire are easier. It's also because the grass type sucks both offensively and defensively. While fire is fairly good offensively and water is fantastic defensive typing, while also being ok offensively. That and the grass starters tend to be sub-par stats-wise for the games, while the fire types mostly are attackers, which makes beating the game easier.

i just find that water tends to be superior due to its sweeping potential with torrent, having low coverage and a lack of effectiveness in some battles can be brute forced with this where as fire type requires a bit more investment for the pay off since they don't have anything that makes their sweeping as potent besides constantly abusing weakness