Guest lampshadejaz Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Let me start by saying that I have nothing against EV Trainers or daycares, you guys are life savers. I'm simply stating that the game has a design flaw in that EV training is not fun. I've tried EV training myself even with macho brace and I just can't force myself to do it. I like leveling poke, but I don't like EV training because I feel like it's leveling with one hand tied behind my back. It's so slow and painful going to specific places in the world and only battling specific pokemon. I always end up finding a daycare on the forums and paying them to do it for me. Which is okay, but it requires so much manual labor and it's extremely time consuming. I have to: 1.) Take a screenshot of the poke, post it along with details on the forums. Minutes 2.) Wait for someone to contact me about EV training it, that could take anywhere from Hours to Days. 3.) Hand off the poke, that requires both of us to be online at the same exact time and not be busy doing something else like excavations or battles. Then we have to get to the same location. That can take Minutes or Hours or Days. 4.) They have to EV train it. Minutes or Hours. 5.) They have to return it, see step 3. More Hours or Days... The process is just so tedious. Here are some possible solutions. -Make it more convenient/efficient to do it yourself. Add more items like the Macho brace only instead of 2xing the EV points, 5x or 10x them. I would pay the game company $5 or 100 coins for that item. Hell i might pay $10 or 200 coins for that item. -Remove vitamin 100 or lower restriction -Make vitamins cheaper. -Completely change the way you acquire EV. Add a mini game or something else. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 I think that you're forgetting that this is an MMO, it's supposed to be time consuming. Plus, EV training was the exact same in Nintendo's games. Also, this is pay to win. :Angry: 292120 -Make it more convenient/efficient to do it yourself. Add more items like the Macho brace only instead of 2xing the EV points, 5x or 10x them. I would pay the game company $5 or 100 coins for that item. Hell i might pay $10 or 200 coins for that item. Overall, I very highly doubt that this will change. Check out PRO's Official Discord: https://discord.gg/FdtDfG4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thejollypear Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 292126 I think that you're forgetting that this is an MMO, it's supposed to be time consuming. Plus, EV training was the exact same in Nintendo's games. Also, this is pay to win. +1 You took the words out of my mouth lol. No need to type. width=400pxhttps://i.imgur.com/9pNePO2.png[/img] Server: Silver width=234pxhttps://i.imgur.com/0Zly8nz.png[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice69anna Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 292120 Let me start by saying that I have nothing against EV Trainers or daycares, you guys are life savers. I'm simply stating that the game has a design flaw in that EV training is not fun. I've tried EV training myself even with macho brace and I just can't force myself to do it. I like leveling poke, but I don't like EV training because I feel like it's leveling with one hand tied behind my back. It's so slow and painful going to specific places in the world and only battling specific pokemon. I always end up finding a daycare on the forums and paying them to do it for me. Which is okay, but it requires so much manual labor and it's extremely time consuming. I have to: 1.) Take a screenshot of the poke, post it along with details on the forums. Minutes 2.) Wait for someone to contact me about EV training it, that could take anywhere from Hours to Days. 3.) Hand off the poke, that requires both of us to be online at the same exact time and not be busy doing something else like excavations or battles. Then we have to get to the same location. That can take Minutes or Hours or Days. 4.) They have to EV train it. Minutes or Hours. 5.) They have to return it, see step 3. More Hours or Days... The process is just so tedious. Here are some possible solutions. -Make it more convenient/efficient to do it yourself. Add more items like the Macho brace only instead of 2xing the EV points, 5x or 10x them. I would pay the game company $5 or 100 coins for that item. Hell i might pay $10 or 200 coins for that item. -Remove vitamin 100 or lower restriction -Make vitamins cheaper. -Completely change the way you acquire EV. Add a mini game or something else. Thoughts? you can pay for ev training from daycare shop on forum, try check those, there are plenty of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lampshadejaz Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 292126 I think that you're forgetting that this is an MMO, it's supposed to be time consuming. Plus, EV training was the exact same in Nintendo's games. Also, this is pay to win. :Angry: 292120 -Make it more convenient/efficient to do it yourself. Add more items like the Macho brace only instead of 2xing the EV points, 5x or 10x them. I would pay the game company $5 or 100 coins for that item. Hell i might pay $10 or 200 coins for that item. Overall, I very highly doubt that this will change. I'm not forgetting it's an MMO. I'm simply stating EV training is the least fun part about the game experience. I'm not suggesting at add in Pay to Win mechanics. I was stating that I would value an EV training shortcut very high. But to be honest, the $5 membership is a pay to win mechanic in itself and that's already been added to generate money for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lampshadejaz Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 292130 292120 Let me start by saying that I have nothing against EV Trainers or daycares, you guys are life savers. I'm simply stating that the game has a design flaw in that EV training is not fun. I've tried EV training myself even with macho brace and I just can't force myself to do it. I like leveling poke, but I don't like EV training because I feel like it's leveling with one hand tied behind my back. It's so slow and painful going to specific places in the world and only battling specific pokemon. I always end up finding a daycare on the forums and paying them to do it for me. Which is okay, but it requires so much manual labor and it's extremely time consuming. I have to: 1.) Take a screenshot of the poke, post it along with details on the forums. Minutes 2.) Wait for someone to contact me about EV training it, that could take anywhere from Hours to Days. 3.) Hand off the poke, that requires both of us to be online at the same exact time and not be busy doing something else like excavations or battles. Then we have to get to the same location. That can take Minutes or Hours or Days. 4.) They have to EV train it. Minutes or Hours. 5.) They have to return it, see step 3. More Hours or Days... The process is just so tedious. Here are some possible solutions. -Make it more convenient/efficient to do it yourself. Add more items like the Macho brace only instead of 2xing the EV points, 5x or 10x them. I would pay the game company $5 or 100 coins for that item. Hell i might pay $10 or 200 coins for that item. -Remove vitamin 100 or lower restriction -Make vitamins cheaper. -Completely change the way you acquire EV. Add a mini game or something else. Thoughts? you can pay for ev training from daycare shop on forum, try check those, there are plenty of it I stated that in my post, that's exactly what I do right now... I'm pointing out that the EV training mechanic is slow and painful and I cannot force myself to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LiquidSnakeK Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 292126 I think that you're forgetting that this is an MMO, it's supposed to be time consuming. Plus, EV training was the exact same in Nintendo's games. Also, this is pay to win. :Angry: 292120 -Make it more convenient/efficient to do it yourself. Add more items like the Macho brace only instead of 2xing the EV points, 5x or 10x them. I would pay the game company $5 or 100 coins for that item. Hell i might pay $10 or 200 coins for that item. Overall, I very highly doubt that this will change. I don't know about pay to win. Its certainly not a very good idea, but p2w? Really? Are you actually winning the game because you are able to gain an absolutely monstrous amount of EV's in any given battle? I mean Those EV's would be obtained anyways, the time is merely shortened. You can still purchase said pokemon if you don't have this crazy little item anyway. Same could be said for MS only pokes. If you can't afford to buy an MS in game or Buy one from the coin shop how is that NOT pay to win? Because you can still purchase said pokemon from other players. At any rate. As Nathan said, the game is an MMO. It is SUPPOSED to be time consuming. That is the very nature of every MMO. If you are impatient or merely don't appreciate the success that comes with effectively training your pokemon, that is your right. However, I personally find EV training to be quite fun especially when I can train my favorite stats, like hp or atk, or speed. I"m also thankful for the macho brace, as this means I can now get a full 252/252 set of EVs done in less than 2 hours. Gotta look at the cup half full sometimes bud :Angel: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice69anna Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 292133 I stated that in my post, that's exactly what I do right now... I'm pointing out that the EV training mechanic is slow and painful and I cannot force myself to do it. you can pay for other player to do it for you, cost some $ of course, some player enjoy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lampshadejaz Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 292135 If you are impatient or merely don't appreciate the success that comes with effectively training your pokemon, that is your right. However, I personally find EV training to be quite fun especially when I can train my favorite stats, like hp or atk, or speed. I'm also thankful for the macho brace, as this means I can now get a full 252/252 set of EVs done in less than 2 hours. Gotta look at the cup half full sometimes bud :Angel: So i'm not impatient, I just have a lot of things to do in real life. The though of spending 2 additional hours per poke just on EV training makes me cringe. I just don't have that much time in a week. The way you feel about EV training is the way I feel about leveling, battling, gyms, etc. I love the other aspects of the game, I just don't' share the joy on EV training. I feel like it's as task or an obstacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lampshadejaz Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 292140 292133 I stated that in my post, that's exactly what I do right now... I'm pointing out that the EV training mechanic is slow and painful and I cannot force myself to do it. you can pay for other player to do it for you, cost some $ of course, some player enjoy it Yep, daycares are my life line. Those guys are saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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