Ghost2hunt

+1 for reasons I'll go into. Also +1 for the content this thread provides Disclaimer: I am fully aware PRO is not like PS/PO. First of all, I think agreeing upon a definition of broken is a good starting point. Why not look at Smogon's Tiering Policy for this. To start explaining why I believe Mega-Mawile fits under this description, we have to begin by looking at what makes it broken strong. First of all, I think the most obvious thing is the outrageous atk stat when taking Huge Power into a count. It hitting 678 without an SD should make it very clear that it's a powerhouse. Pair that with the fact it has a priority move, good defensive typing allowing it to come in on a variety of different things and a wide movepool to choose from and you have one of the most offensive threats possible. Alright so it being obvious that it is a stallbreaker we can look at how Mega-Mawile matches up against the different playstyles in the metagame. Let's start by judging what it's meant for, STALL MATCHUP: Generic stall teams don't really have many answers to Mega-Mawile, their best best would be burning it; looking at possible Wisp users that are playable on stall we're pretty much left with Mega-Sableye & Zard-X. Here are the calcs vs those mons after a single swords dance, which can easily be done against the other members of the team. VS Mega-Sableye +2 252+ Atk Huge Power burned Mawile-Mega Play Rough vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Sableye-Mega: 342-403 (112.8 - 133%) -- guaranteed OHKO ------------------- VS Mega-Charizard X +2 252+ Atk Huge Power burned Mawile-Mega Play Rough vs. 248 HP / 100+ Def Charizard-Mega-X: 210-248 (58.4 - 69%) -- guaranteed 2HKO This goes to show that neither one of these is really a viable option considering Mega-Mawile teams are able to run a cleric to get rid of status afterwards & even if they don't, stall losing a valuable member on their team usual y results in weaknesses being created which once again can be exploited by Mega-Mawile and it's team members. VS OFFENCE: The fact Mawile has a good defensive typing and also has access to intimidate pre mega-evolve will mean that it can find openings to come in on a lot of things, upon entering the battlefield in such a scenario, it often forces either a kill or switch. Now, there simply aren't many pokémons ran on offence that want to switch into this 678 attack monster. Another thing being that Mega-Mawile has the option to run Substitute + has access to priority in the form of Sucker Punch, all you generally need is a bit of prior damage on the opposing team and Mega-Mawile is able to clean up, which should be achievable considering you have 5 other pokémons supporting it. ----- I can honestly go on and delve into more specific scenarios where Mega-Mawile poses a problem, but to round things up and not not make my post too lengthy I would like to summarize why I think Mega-Mawile is unhealthy for the metagame and should thus be banned: 1) Unlike most Stallbreakers, Mega-Mawile also poses a massive threat to any Offensive or Balance team. 2) The wide movepool allows for great coverage and has the ability to force your opponent into unpleasant 50/50s. Eg. Switching is risky because of the Sub / SD Option + Not to begin with the Sucker Punch VS Play Rough mindgames. 3) Whereas a lot of offensive threats / mega's allow for a variety of support teambuilding wise, the possibilities with Mega-Mawile are insane. eg. Screens / Veil - Sticky Web / Hazard Offense - Trick Room, etc; 4) The pokémon that are able to truely counter Mega-Mawile aren't relevant in the meta in any other scenario thus creating overall weaker teams because you need to check a certain mon, this also limits the options teambuilding wise as those other mons usualy need some sort of support in order to not be useless in a match where the opponent is not running Mega-Mawile Most of these things like the 50/50 part, the how irrelevant the counters are in the meta and how it limits teambuilding to me atleast showcase that there is a lot inherently wrong with it being in the CURRENT PRO Meta and make me believe it can classify under the previously established definition of "Broken" ----- ++ As mentioned by the OP, he summarized the similarities between Mega-Mawile and Aegislash, now I'd like to add another comparison to a previously banned pokémon as well. This being Landorus-I with Sheer Force, this was another Wall breaker that did end up getting banned, I personally feel like the counters to that pokémon were atleast a bit more practical / generally viable like SpDef Gliscor. Anyways, A lot of people seem to want Mega-Mawile around for the sole purpose of it beating stall, I suppose we'll see how these opinions might change the more they face it even while playing Offence/Balance. Thanks for reading, have a nice remainder of your day.

1. Trainer Card: Will be attached down below 2. Country: Belgium 3. Age: 21 4. Gender: Male 5. Favorite Pokemon: Bisharp 6. Goals in PRO: Atm it's finishing the story and getting to a point where I can hop into PvP. 7. Highest Rating: Haven't played PvP yet as shown on the Trainer Card. 8. Discord Tag: Lag#6350 Note: Heard about the secondary Guild being welcoming to new players, would love to have a nice community with whom I can hang out while I get PvP ready. Familiar with Smogon Tiers & Have played competitive since BW2 til the end of SM.

What's your IGN? Ghost2Hunt Please post a picture of your trainer card! Should be attached to the post! What is your discord ID? Lag#6350 How far are you in story? Beat the 4th gym in kanto just now, started my journey on PRO yesterday evening. How active are you in PRO? (How often do you play?) Hard to say as I haven't been playing for a long amount of time; With my current work schedule I am assuming upwards of a couple hours/day Are you a PvP or PvE player? Or do you enjoy both? Currently the only thing I've done in game is PvE/Story related, although I do hope to enter the PvP Scene in the relative future, having experience in most higher Smogon tiers since BW2 (UU and Above). Have you ever been banned in game and why? I have not, although that would be impressive if I got banned in my first 12 hours; in all seriousness though, I do not plan on breaking any rules nor am I hot headed so I should stay out of trouble. Why do you want to join Calamity guild? I am honestly just looking for a wonderful community with whom I can hang out and chat with.