Gilan

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When you consider any sort of suggestion, you have to consider the repercussions it has on all aspects of the game. You're biased toward competitive battling--and there's nothing wrong with that. However, this game is not a battle simulator. A HUGE part of the endgame for Pokemon IS a grind fest. Whether you're hunting for Pokemon with better IVs, training Pokemon to level 100, or looking for shinies, it's all a grind. You have to put in work to reap the benefits. I don't like to use the word never, but I highly doubt that this game, an MMO, will ever reach the same "competitive battling" scene as the one you're hoping for. It's simply impossible to do that whenever a Pokemon is considered complete as soon as it reaches whichever level (past 50) that it learns its last competitive move. The easier it is for all players to be on the same playing field, the more difficult it will be to maintain longevity. 1. Not every player who will play PRO has the intention of becoming a competitive battler. People will buy, sell, and trade competitive Pokemon consistently even if they aren't battlers. Competitive battlers most likely won't be the OT of the Pokemon they use, and they most likely won't be the person who trained them to level 100. That's just how it works in this type of setting. 2. This would not have a positive effect on tournaments. Using a level 50 Pokemon and a level 100 Pokemon in a level 50 battle isn't the same thing, and neither is using a level 30 Pokemon and forcing it to level 50. Are you suggesting that these lower Pokemon should be able to use level 50 movesets? or that level 50 Pokemon should be allowed to use higher-level movesets? The "competitive" scene in PRO will not be a cookie-cut design of a battle simulator or "real" competitive battling. There aren't going to be perfect Pokemon floating around everywhere. As the game grows, there will certainly be more chances for near-perfect Pokemon, but this won't happen anytime soon... and I highly doubt that they'll be available for players who aren't willing to grind in some form or fashion (hunting or training). Well, what happened at Pokemmo (now don't dismiss me yet, hear me out), what ended up happening is that people would just naturally limit themselves to 50's. The issue with that is that if you ever accidentally over leveled a pokemon, that pokemon essentially became worthless and was a huge discouragement to the player. I'm thinking on a system scale, and am not focusing on a few aspects. Yes, grind is good in an MMO, but too much grind is bad, really bad. And without a level modifier down to 50 (not up) then you start getting into "too grindy". 1. It really wouldn't hurt the economy. In fact it would actually help in that people just don't randomly lose vast amounts of wealth due to a single level up over 50. 2. I'm very aware that 50's are not the same as 100's (by a very very small amount). I thought I made it clear that the level would be lowered to 50, not raised. As for movesets, there are very few that don't get the moves they need before 50. And yet, the competitve aspect is one of the main selling points of the game. And you are literally saying "keep it much less than perfect to keep the economy well".

You're joking right? You do realize how tedious the game would be if it didn't scale pokemon back to 50? If you have competitive battles at 100, then players will have to grind hundreds of pokemon to level 100... That's a big no no if you actually want a competitive scene in this game. In my opinion this suggestion is an absolute must in the game. To address Pretentious even more directly: 1. You need lots of pokemon per species, for one. Otherwise you get wrecked by scouting. So it really won't have a negative effect on the economy. In fact it's more positive than negative, as without a scale back, players will have to grind so much that they will stop playing the game, thus less buyers and sellers, and thus a worse economy. 2. Wut? This will be a positive effect on tournaments so that more people can participate... Also, if you want to play level 50s but everyone else is playing level 100s... -.- 3. I'm not really sure as to how the daycare will actually function, so I won't spend much time on this one. If you don't scale pokemon back to level 50, then you seriously hinder the competitive aspect of the game... It's honestly a deal breaker for me. I'm not going to make a level 50 and a level 100 of the same exact pokemon (nature, moves, and general IVs).

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Hey welcome to PRO! Out of curiosity is that Archer as in Bow and Arrows? Cause if you've read Ranger's Apprentice I named myself after Ranger Gilan.

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Re: R3vo - Viva La R3vo! <t>This is an awesome Guild! And, as the leader of Team Wall Street, I hope our teams get along very well ^.^</t>

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Welcome to PRO, it's gonna be a blast!

Re: Team Wall Street <r><QUOTE author="SybilVain"><s> </e></QUOTE> I'm right with ya. I can hardly wait!<br/> <br/> I'm also going in vacation for most of august, but unfortunately it will mean that I won't be able to play ;-;<br/> <br/> I hope the game comes out before that so I can make most of the first few days.</r>

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Re: Team Wall Street <t>Made a quick banner for the team, and it has been added to the OP.</t>

hey Jate

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Welcome to PRO! This game's community is growing at an awesome rate =3

yo o/

Re: Team Wall Street <r><QUOTE author="Purple"><s> </e></QUOTE> <br/> Thank you!</r>

Re: Team Wall Street <r><QUOTE author="Austin"><s> </e></QUOTE> Yea I will be on more when the game goes live too but I'm on now if you wanted to add me.<e> </e></QUOTE> It's 1 AM right now =P and I haven't updated my client yet. Working on a map to showcase for my application as a mapper at the moment anyways.<br/> <br/> If you don't mind me asking, what timezone do you live in?<e> </e></QUOTE> EST I just don't sleep much haha I'm one hour ahead of you if your central <br/> <br/> haha XD I gotcha. I actually plan to pull an all-nighter tonight =3</r>

Re: Team Wall Street <r><QUOTE author="Austin"><s> </e></QUOTE> Yea I will be on more when the game goes live too but I'm on now if you wanted to add me. <br/> <br/> It's 1 AM right now =P and I haven't updated my client yet. Working on a map to showcase for my application as a mapper at the moment anyways.<br/> <br/> If you don't mind me asking, what timezone do you live in?</r>

Re: Team Wall Street <r><QUOTE author="Austin"><s> </e></QUOTE> Yessir, you can join. I remember you from PokeMMO. You're on my friends list if I'm not mistaken.<e> </e></QUOTE> prob not my ign on pokemmo was ShinyMedals couldn't use Austin, but thanks for letting me join once I can get on I will add you.<e> </e></QUOTE> <br/> oh, haha. My mistake ;) There was a guy with the ign oooAustinooo or something like that. Either way, I like you ;) (I live in Austin, Texas).<br/> <br/> Yeah, I'll be on a lot more when the permanent server goes live. Until then, I'll get on occasionally.<br/> <br/> <br/> <br/> also, thank you all for the good wishes you've been giving me!</r>

Re: Team Wall Street <r><QUOTE author="Austin"><s> </e></QUOTE> Yessir, you can join. I remember you from PokeMMO. You're on my friends list if I'm not mistaken.</r>

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Considering the mechanics of the move fly's overworld effect. First, you need to ask yourself: "What is the main draw of a Pokemon Game online?" The answer to that is: "The people". Player to player interaction is a HUGE factor. But without fly readily available for all players, it hinders those players' ability to get together for clan events, trades, simple pvp battles, and more. In other words, by limiting fly so extensively you are in effect hindering one of the main draws of this game. That's what some call "bad synergy". So, think twice about how you handle the move Fly.