Aman21

Kindly help me by stating a fair price for this salamence as i intend to sell it. The moveset is classic dragon dance.

You can't even absorb the point from my simple reply, And again you conclude things out of nowhere, sir you can reply people with counter opinion in a [glow=red]Good Manner[/glow] instead of telling them which one is right and which one is wrong or teaching them like you are an EXPERT based on nothing, i say this because you can't even prove that you have enough experience in PRO pokemon battle. Sir you are beyond help bye.. bye.. :Shy: bye my spirit animal :) have a good day if you can :devil:

No i don't say that. i just make an counter argument from your previous comment. And again i don't say that, you can't block defog with ghost though, there is no valid points from your comment. Of course rating is matter that is a valid proof to measure how good you are and how many experience you have in PvP you still want to avoid this fact? You just talking loud but saying nothing. Like I said people here just giving their opinion you don't have to tell them if "this is right & this is wrong" , i just give counter argument from your previous comment, and you mad already, not to mention you keep conclude things out of nowhere :Nervous: oh we can give any stupid opinion to ban anything and no one should contradict it ? fine mods please ban hippowdon its the best mixed wall in this game with plethora of support moves and offensive presence at the same time. :Sleeping: :devil:

Oh sir, Bart is better than me how can you sure about that, whats measurement did you use? Double switch for what sir, slowbro check the normal dmg while blissey check the special dmg, it does not matter what you switch in and even if you set hazard a prepared stall team always have rapid spin or defog. And sir, you are not a good PvP player either, whats your rating now? how can you talk big and teach other people like you know everything. People here only give their opinion sir, and you don't have to be rude towards other. oh so you are saying that if you are facing a team with blissey and slowbro you are helpless and can't do anything and they should get banned ? Lol this is logic like this that triggers me first of all slowbro has lots of checks and there is a thing called "prediction" in pokemon and stall auto loses to aggresive plays ghost types blocks rapid spin first of all and that is a dedicated strategy and your argument is based on "stall is hard to counter" which is bad to begin with and i am supplying actual valid points here unlike you saying "whats yr rating and are you good ? " with the logic you are giving and your knowledge of the meta-game seems narrowed down to stall and nothing's getting banned so what is the point ? at-least provide valid reasoning my friend. There are a lot of players that are much better than me playing pokemon and maybe pro as well and i have my fair share of chokes and losses but i know my facts and points and i am up for a healthy debate anytime regarding bans and restrictions.

i don't know why we all are arguing since gothitelle is not getting banned till scarf arrives and no way that slowbro is getting banned either way lol might as well share counter strategy or team-building advice and rant about uncoded items instead :p. There is a reason why no staff has commented on gothitelle and regenerator till now cause both are not ban worthy at-least till scarf arrives for gothitelle and swag-bro was never op to begin with. And i repeat that banning said mons for a excuse of missing items and abilities will only bring in harm to the metagame in the long run and there is absolutely no guarantee that the state of pvp will freshen up even after you ban gothitelle and regenerator "getting falsely targeted" slowbro.

Get rekt proceed to adapt. Change your team. my new line whenever a player appeals for a unfair ban, great line +1.

i kinda agree with this idea but this will put restraint on team-building which is disastrous when you take team building and team structure into play and restraining and centralizing pokes will only result in more threats and more excessive usage.

your opinion is probably the finest i have seen. The whole point of me ranting is i don't want any of the 2 to get banned and both of them are very good at where they are currently. Ban nothing and code the items and abis and then we can sit and discuss whats op or what is underwhelming :)

since when did weavile and glass cannons in particular need defenses ? but wow 180-200k seem very short of what i imagined. Thanks for replying tho :) That's because it is low. 400k-600k I'd say. hmm thanks for the reply mate :) hmm that price is actually pretty {did not know d-a-m-n was censored} profitable since i only bought it for 40k as a sneasel.-

whats the deal with those quotes? from those long reply, this is the only point you can make? you don't even get the sarcastic tone there. seriously dude whats the deal? throw insult and now this? :)) I don't have any problem with stall team, i only give my though about Regenerator. Regenerator Slowbro are OP and easily abused in PRO, in other POKEMON game you can easily deal with regen slowbro with any Sweeper who held Lifeorb or you can trap him with pursuit THAT'S THE FACT. Here in PRO you must narrow that wide option into some RARE & EXTREMELY RARE pokes just to deal with it? while slowbro only a COMMON poke? REALLY? yet, still no guarantee that you can shut it down since its not 1v1 and REGENERATOR EASILY ABUSED here ^^ and this paragraph is legit the most false projection of regenerator and slowbro i have seen and regen is abused in PRO ? "Abused" ? oh boy you better have a good argument ready brother. ya, then please elaborate it? :) is it to hard for you? brings up smogon? we play PRO not SHOWDOWN please ... you can bring up smogon when we have all Moves, and PvP stuff available your comment base on hatred pal, it just like a litle kid yapping arround. Im done with you pal. no i am done with you here and calling me kid and insulting is that all that you have left in the tank mate ? nah aint hard for me and the mechanics of metagame work the same like pro and showdown and the competitive scene of pokemon is one and the same lol this guy does not know what he is talking. Now give me even 1 valid reason that slowbro needs to go from pro's competitive scene if you can. I totally support you in gothetelle not getting banned but this slowbro argument of yours my friend is not strong and does not hold potency and you wanting regen to be looked over something like shadow tag is something for you to think about yrself.

WOW do you have any problem with me? so much hate it your comment pal. mind to elaborate which part of my arguments are stupid? ya the spot can be claim anytime, but can you claim it? I've never said "the only way to deal with slowbro is pursuit and choice items" please don't make things up. and please read everything before you giving an useless comment like this. first of all your argument's base is stupid as f to begin with ? you want slowbro and regen banned of all things lol ? if this was the smogon forums you would be roasted by now dude. You dont even have one valid argument to ban slowbro and i can give you like 5 for not too and its not about me claiming the spot or your rank its about stopping you and your pathetic arguments from spoiling the chain by which the metagame works. And i support my argument with legit and valid points with experience and you are just ranting about "ban said mons we can't deal with them because they pivot around and i can't chip them to put them in 1-2hko range so how is your comment valid and mine useless mind explaining ?

your plan only work if you opponent dumb enough, do you know what is blissey function? please don't talk about common sense when you don't even have one :Cry: Finally someone making sense, futz using "i am top of the red ladder" to add weight to his obvious wrong and stupid arguments about regenerator slowbro is first of all disgusting, your spot can be claimed any time fam. Second of all futz or our "ladder topper" here said and i quote "the only way to deal with slowbro is pursuit and choice items" LOL no dude bart is right special attacker and phazers spoil slowbro's life and the main threat being calm mind is more of a late game sweep and pivoting around the game with hazards up smoke slowbro and slowbro is taunt bait at best if you have the right support. Now Mr. "The PvP Champion" rudolph first of all bro add weights to your point and explain your reasoning please and bart is better and has better understanding of the metagame than you. First of all your justification is slowbro is only dead with special attackers if opponent is dumb ? bro do you even know what prediction and double switch-ins and agrresive play-style and hyper offense is ? and what is "blissey function" ? kindly enlighten me other than it being a pink blob that dies to hazards and any decent physical attacker. My main point being is pokes like slowbro and gothitelle will keep popping up and people will find it hard to deal with not because of them being OP but because of missing items. We don't need to quarrel over ban we need to outsmart and have better team-building strategies until the said items arrives. and gothitelle and shadow tag were banned because of "Choice Scarf" and its maiming scarf set and gothitelle should be suspected after scarf arrives not before. and slowbro is perfectly fine as it is and it has not been up for suspect for a long time in smogon history and is a very balanced poke. And banning said mons will result to a chain of banning or maiming since some threats are kept at bay by gothitelle and slowbro which will become rampant when they go as each poke keeps other mons in a meta in check like sylveon and florges keep hydreigon at bay in the smogon UU tier. Inb4 this post will get quoted in some salty posts and arguments but rest assured i will clear your doubts with conviction everytime.

i think its not about losing or winning the game, its about how boring and annoying the current meta is because of slowbro and gothitele so we will ban anything that sees excessive pvp usage ? are we stupid enough to do that ? look some pokemons are clearly much better than others and they will be used over other bad pokemons and good pokemons will see excessive pvp usage. It does not mean we will ban anything remotely powerful or popular pokes to make meta "diverse and fresh". Seriously the arguments in this thread now make no sense

since when did weavile and glass cannons in particular need defenses ? but wow 180-200k seem very short of what i imagined. Thanks for replying tho :)

I say lock this thread for good and ban nothing. Best way and code the missing items and happy days for everyone.

try grinding this game yrself and then say it's easy to dictate while sitting and coding things.

If substitute works in the future along with intro of choice items and life orb anyone with decent prediction skills would gladly 6-0 your stall team sir (no offense) stall dies you just have to predict and be aggressive.

To be completely fair all this discussion and ladder being too fat and stall and gothitelle dominating won't be a problem if life orbs and choice items and pvp items come so that hyper offense can deal better with tags and stall and balance teams can run better breakers. I can't believe that the staff are being so lazy about this that they have not coded choice items, life orb and other great pvp items even after there said region and updates are done.

Wanted a Price Check on this frail monster/weak beast. I know the moveset is f'ed up lol but i use it as dragon killer/ catcher in the game since i dont really have this guy in my pvp dream team atm.

ROFL Jumpluff in PvP some people these days lol

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as someone who plays almost all tier of smogon and have decent knowledge about it talonflame is not "Overpowered", you need to get some competitive experience first then open your mouth. Gale wings is a decent ability and talonflame resides in OU and OU uses tons of offensive pokemon other than talonflame. Talonflame is a good poke but nowhere near broke got that ? so you need to get yr facts checked beforehand. i said PRO is different from other pokemon games does other games have so many pokemons, abilities, moves, items unavailabe or uncoded ?? have u ever seen so many talonflames in pvp in other pokemon games ?? bigdanny the bottom line is talonflame will not be banned from rnaked nor gale wings so why do you keep inserting your points ? think about the question :Cool: Bigdanny the bottom line is talonflame will not be banned from rank neither will gale wings so why do you keep inserting your arguments ?

Bro! People always complain about s.th becoz they can't deal with that problem. But nothing is impossible, always has a solution for any problem. And u can get the solution or not is depend on ur thinking. Game for relaxing, not for crying or being angry :Angel: u don't get the point first, i complain it not because i can't deal with it i complain it just because it overpower and make some others offensive pokemon has no chances to show up "if i can use talonflame why do i have to use other offensive pokemons ?" it just make the pvp monotone and boring as someone who plays almost all tier of smogon and have decent knowledge about it talonflame is not "Overpowered", you need to get some competitive experience first then open your mouth. Gale wings is a decent ability and talonflame resides in OU and OU uses tons of offensive pokemon other than talonflame. Talonflame is a good poke but nowhere near broke got that ? so you need to get yr facts checked beforehand.

So, if someone has more money than you and he buys the Pokemon you want, it is also pay to win? if someone pay tons of money to buy an epic garchomp, dragonite i would not say anything because we can farm garchomp, dragonite but talon is different, we can't farm talonflame easily the only way is to pay tons of $$ to get one pretty sure no matter how many crybaby arguments you make talonflame or any other poke won't be banned without a solid reason and your argument is pretty weak to begin with.

Because swagger is banned with a clause in official competitive play ? and it's broke with prankster so yeah.