Aman21

Can we please lock this thread ? pretty sure weird suggestions will keep coming and potential people complaining to ban a pokemon who "accidently" smoked their team because they are not that good or their team does not cover threats ?

Did i really just see someone requesting to ban choice band staraptor ? ok lol look, staraptor isnt even that big of a deal and it seats in a weird tier atm because its too good for UU and its complete horse**it for OU. choice band reckless can put work but its easily checked and smoked. And the games that i have played on this ladder has made me believe that the meta of PRO currently consists of mainly OU mons with UU or various underrated utility mons as fillers (milotic etc) and the ladder is way too fat, every 2nd or 3rd team is bulky offense or hard stall and lack of species clause and sleep clause does not help this at all. I agree with gr and irafayel about no unnecessary bans but hear me out for once. Clauses/rules in PVP is very important and official pokemon competitive scene and smogon have then for a reason and PRO does not have any clause. With the intro of choice band, specs and many destructive and great items, not having these clauses will hurt the scene a lot. Sleep is actually one of the powerful status in game just below t-wave, it gives you dead turns, 1 free turn of setup for the poke and gives insane momentum to the opposition. Lack of sleep clause tends me to suggest that pokes that abuse sleep clause need close attention and possible restriction or ban. For example: Venusaur (altho its countered), breloom (this is troublesome, free swords dance and technician sweep abuse), amoonguss (now this, boys this will be worry-some, regenerator, free spore, great wall, this can be trouble if paired with a choice mon or a sweeper for a free setup). Overall all i am saying is pokemons that get access to spore mainly or can abuse sleep effectively need to be checked by rules or restricted use until some rules are made. Also after all these said items are implemented, lack of species clause will be a pain since choice band or choice specs make any usable mon a terrifying offensive presence and scarf makes superior level revenge killers and multiple of the same band or specs mons can lead to annihilation. Also no one would like to see 2-3x chansey after eviolite on a team and multiple of the same mon really hurt the essence of a metagame. Sorry for the long block of text, but my point being Red and other staff and players, some rules or clauses regarding sleep and species mainly need to be implemented beforehand unless many mons will catch the suspect or ban eye and meta will centralize in a bad position. With these items, proper measures to reduce abuse needs to be done.

seriously tho, not coding the said missing items and not introducing them and banning certain mons and crippling some playstyles is stupid.

not to be bad or aggressive but why not add or code the missing items instead of banning the said mon from pvp ?

Even i feel like i ranted for no reason here. Sure at beginning it seems like a chore but now my investment is paying off with double it's worth. Super rare pokes, big nuggets and plethora of rare candy. I should have waited before ranting i guess Yeah now i feel money is indeed worth it, my friend found some super epics and he made like 3-4 million from 1 day so damn. I agree with it being expensive for first few attempts but every good return needs a great investment first.

yeah singham's reply does not justify this horrible edit to this update. "rare remain rare" ofc they will remain rare when half the community does not bother to even go smash for them. good luck boys, you just sabotaged something that could have been a mvp feature for this game.

this is by far one of the most pathetic ways of money sinking i have seen in my mmo playing career. You know something is wrong when no one votes on the right button and everyone disagrees with it. And even if money sink is ok decreasing rare pokes encounter will only make people disinterested. Either keep this 40k thing and make spawns easy and regular like before or keep it this way but remove extra money. Doing both will only make this update a rather forgettable one.

40k day, 10k to up/down from hoenn if you grind that 40k in cc or d den...........nah not worth it. Not staying in hoenn is already expensive. Unnecessary money sink tactic.

won't really matter much danny, 10-20k extra sink is almost non-existent because grind in d den and cerulean cave is almost effortless. The prices of ms has been and will have to be dealt with without rants. If someone really wants to be member then buy it with real life money. You have no right to complain about in-game currency.

topics about ms inflation like this "joke" are just made by people who just don't understand the concept of economics and market forces. and i remember me ranting about ms being high a time back and a player gave me a golden talk " no matter how much you pay for ms, you will end up benefiting the triple of that amount". And this is true ms is worth it and will rise due to people getting richer i activated my ms meddalion today and i roughly grinded about 70k without doing much work. We as players can't do nothing and making it non-tradable is the lamest possible outcome.

Found a dragon scale in sky pillar, dont remember the floor but it ain't hidden.

^ finally someone making sense. Whole hearted +1

Actually i have 3 pvps at my account, but I said i never PvPed because from 3 matches u cant get any experience. But what I experienced from these 3 matches is constant switch of pokemons which is really annoying, took like 10-15 minutes for 1 battle. Thats basically the main reason I'm complaing about PvP sector and how its built https://prntscr.com/bh1l7w edit: we have gone full off-topic so lets finish everything here. i really love how your argument went from "pokemon is not meant to be pvp oriented" to "i would like certain changes and i love pvp'ing in general and i hate stalling". Peace.

And again, you are absolutely wrong. Pokemon is a completely pvp central game now. Every poke that comes out is judged on stats and abilities. And gamefreak has official tiers and it caters to those like mega audino was made specifically for doubles. Pokemon has it's pve elements but it boils down to competitive at the end of the river. So you call PvP switching 20-30 times per battle your poke? Or losing a battle because u started PvP with a pokemon that your enemy countered by LUCK? Lets say u start your battle with Charizard and your enemy starts with Blastoise ? He have advantage over you because of LUCK and LUCK only, thats why this game was created for PvE and not for PvP. Really ? this just shows that you are nothing but crusty and salty with no knowledge of the metagame. 20-30 times switching, boy that is called prediction and plays a key role in any game, a sign of a good player is his prediction ability and it has nothing to do with luck it comes from experience and knowledge of pokemon sets. And you didnt really find any decent argument to back yr point up so you blamed it on the luck factor (LOL),i admit luck factor plays its parts with crits and all but you actually have to predict the lead of the opponent -_-, get good please and get some games under your belt. andf even if your opponent starts off with something that kills you you hard counter it or coverage it with yr moves . And that blastoise is dead meat if your charizard happens to be a mega y I'll just drop this here and hope you have a decent answer otherwise this discussion with you is over my friend. 252+ SpA Mega Charizard Y Solar Beam vs. 184 HP / 0 SpD Mega Blastoise: 296-350 (85.7 - 101.4%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

Troll statement of the year boys. this game and every other mmo caters to pvp at the end of the day rather than pve. Thats how it goes. What i was trying to say is that POKEMON as a game is meant to be PvE . And again, you are absolutely wrong. Pokemon is a completely pvp central game now. Every poke that comes out is judged on stats and abilities. And gamefreak has official tiers and it caters to those like mega audino was made specifically for doubles. Pokemon has it's pve elements but it boils down to competitive at the end of the river.

Troll statement of the year boys. this game and every other mmo caters to pvp at the end of the day rather than pve. Thats how it goes.

I asked many people in-game about this and most of them are saying on the moon. Cn't confirm this yet tho since i have only heard and have yet to finish hoenn.

will the 64 bit be fixed or will we all have to go to 32 bit to have a chance of playing ?

but i already downloaded the client 2 times already ( the 64 bit) my pc can't handle these bulk downloads -_-

same with 64 bit, the server status checker says online but i can't connect. Pretty frustrating seeing this all day today.

there is another new client after the one that got updated with hoenn ?

+1 having the same problem, status checker is saying its online but client trolling by not connecting.

paralyzed pokes can still move first than your poke without using priority moves if they have great speed than your poke, sometimes the pokes still out-speeds after being paralyzed if its in the high speed tier.

lol seriously making me laugh now, people raging and cussing all over the chat and forums that "game is ruined", "i aint donating next time", "f this game, f staff" etc are so pathetic. I mean you guys can't take a damn pokemon to level 100 ? and rattata takes very less exp compared to others so its even less time. Those who dont have cc access can easily go to dragon den. Remember the staff that you are cussing now is the same one because of who you get to enjoy a new region. peace.

Darkrai has the base stat 600 total and one of the most popular face of sinnoh. So, it being catchable is a distinct possibility. Anyways welcome to PRO bro. (lol i rhymed for once)