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Hey guys, I would like to sell this rare shiny Torchic with decent IVs and nature!
All my rich friends say its worth at least 50m
Sadly, I don't see myself using a Blaziken in PVP, so I want to sell it.
STARTING OFFER: 40m
MIN INCREASE BID: 1mCONTACT ME
IGN: Belzebel
Discord: Belzebel#8842You can also bid down below and I will update your offers as soon as I see it.
Auction ends 3 days after the first bid.
Any invalid bids or off topic comments will be reported for spam.
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I would like to sell this rare shiny with decent nature and IVs!
It can be used in PVP without a mega stone. It can also be useful for bosses, with a mega stone!
I did not level it up so you can even use it for an alt account to complete Hoenn! :3
It also has my OT lmaoooooo
Min Bid: 50m
Min increase bid: 1m
Contact me
In game: Belzebel
Discord: Belzebel#8842You can also bid down below and I will update your offers as soon as I see it.
Auction ends 7 days after the first bid starts.
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Hello, my favorite noobs! I miss you all and I also miss playing PRO story, so instead of making 812328109328193 accounts and getting myself banned, why don't I do some story service for you?
I would like to record the process because I might do a nuzlocke kind of content.So, there are 2 ways I can do this:
1 - I will do a a nuzlocke thing and probably take 1 day to finish each region.
2 - I can do the service while also doing dex service, catching every single pokemon of every route (not counting MS pokemon, unless you give me MS).
The second way might take longer because hunting in PRO is pain.PRICE: 400k each region (minimum)
Smooge told me story service is around 1.6m to 2m. So the minimum price for all regions will be 1.6m (400k each region), but it might increase depending on what you want.
CONTACT
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Hello, my favorite noobs! I miss you all and I also miss playing PRO story, so instead of making 812328109328193 accounts and getting myself banned, why don't I do some story service for you?
I would like to record the process because I might do a nuzlocke kind of content.So, there are 2 ways I can do this:
1 - I will do a a nuzlocke thing and probably take 1 day to finish each region.
2 - I can do the service while also doing dex service, catching every single pokemon of every route (not counting MS pokemon, unless you give me MS).
The second way might take longer because hunting in PRO is pain.PRICE: 1.6m (minimum)
Smooge told me story service is around 1.6m to 2m. So the minimum price will be 1.6m (400k each region), but it might increase depending on what you want.
CONTACT
DM me on Discord to contact me and negotiate: Belzebel#8842-
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So... I forgot this sync is from Kanto and I passed to my friend's alt which is in Johto.
I've been playing in this account btw. Obviously I don't PVP here, I'm just doing story.
Can I have it back?My username: Belzebel
Server: SilverThe account I traded: Andsl
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24 minutes ago, Demonhunter9 said:
This post will most likely be deleted again, but here is my last response.
Yes, I have used homophobic slurs in the past, but it's not like I insulted people for no reason. People on discord were really racist talking about indian people and black people, but at the same time they were men pretending to be girls and other weird stuff.
I apologize for those comments. Fighting fire with fire is stupid.
Some of the screenshots make no sense and are either completely taken out of context or edited.
BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT REASON I'M POSTING is to say, thanks or proving my point. Think about it. IT TOOK ME TO COMPLAIN ABOUT STAFF for them to dig very deep and look into me. They didn't look into me because I insulted another player, no, because I complained about something that was wrong and Keita even admitted it in dm's, but he won't do that here. Instead of putting that work into bettering the game with this thread (not coding or cosmetics, reading comprehension on please), it gets used to "expose" players. As if past offenses erase everything bad you have done before and continue to do. It's hilarious.
Even back then I wasn't permabanned for the insults on discord or dm, but for personally insulting Keita after he banned because I was pissed about people ripping off newbies with ditto's. But hey, leave out everything good i have ever done and only show some one-sided screenshots, that will shut me up.
So you can talk all this back and forth, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter. Staff will be protected and no matter what you did, if you don't kiss up very heavily you will be blackballed. Just look at "Felix". Went from permaban to game master and he has said similar stuff like my insults in the past. I got banned for complaining about an appeal. If I never posted here I would still be playing. Think about that.
Have a nice day.You and I have some stuff in common. Unfortunately, I don't have the balls to say everything.
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7 hours ago, Shaui said:
Belz, I am going to be quite honest here. You might not like this, and you know that's okay. It is not an attack, I am being honest, maybe brutal as well, but honest. After getting the full story, it changed my perspective on this quite a bit. And, being a chronic over thinker, I thought about it. Then came to this conclusion.
You and Felix made similar mistakes.- When Belzebel messes up, it's all "Oh my god, I will not do it again." "Please forgive me". For like what, the 1000th time? You have had more chances than cats have lives. I am actually surprised you are not banned by now.
- When Felix does the same thing, instead of trying to see the shoe on the other foot and giving him the chance you want people to give you, instantly you launch some kind of crusade against him. You want people to respect and give you chances? Then be the change you wish to see.
I am not defending his actions, I think what has transpired should have never happened personally. And that is my hot take.
But, we will never know if he will change or not unless he is given a chance. He is human just like me and you. And humans are bound to mess up.
Me and him do not have the best history, some here already know, for which I take most of the blame for this and my actions. But anyways he is a very good staff, and quite frankly Belz, you of all people have no right to say who should be staff or not given how you acted as a staff member.You act like you were not warned about your behavior. You were warned, we had followed the policy, and had given you chances to reform, and escalating with each offense before you were removed from the staff team. We had to remove you. Given we had to remove you for your behavior, do you think it is valid that you can even say if someone deserves to be staff or not?
You started off by being incredibly rude and inappropriate as a staff member. You also had posts in the Official Discord that were not okay, if I had more time I would totally go dig them up. No matter who or how many times we talked to you, it is like you did not understand a word we said or even read the numerous forum posts about professionalism, staff rules, and standards. A huge slap in the face to the team and player base we served. Then you kept getting into fights and arguments with your fellow staffers. You were a hard worker yes, but it does not excuse your terrible attitude and how you treated people. It got so bad between this and your behavior we had to remove you, incase you forgot.
It is pure hypocrisy you want to be given chances and such, but do not want to give someone a chance. Staff after staff has tried to give you a chance to reform, and has been more than super nice to you, including myself. To see you on the forums making such claims about staff is quite disgusting given the amount of special treatment you have gotten over the years. Being nice with you does not work, and you do not seem to appreciate it with how you squander what has been given to you and lash out when people treat you like everyone else.
As like what happened to you, if he were to continue to mess up, the policy would be followed. Keita spilled the tea, so to speak already in a previous post that basically he followed the policy. So it is not like they are not doing anything about it.
So, uh:
https://i.imgur.com/WFEqRhb.png
https://i.imgur.com/cxUU8MM.png
You are not supposed to solicit staff in private messages. You are breaking a rule and his privacy. He does not have to answer you, and just because people did answer you does not mean he is supposed to or required too like you think. Yeah, people give you special treatment in private messages, but he does not have too. He could of been a bit nicer about it, yeah. However, why are you trying to solicit information from a staff member in private messages? That is not good.
At this point you come across as a young child who got upset, because they are not getting any special treatment. Literally digging and scraping for anything to try to prove you are right. But you are wrong with this. He doesn't have to respect you here, especially after you broke the rule about soliciting him in private messages and disrespecting his free time. You disrespected him first when you broke that rule and approaching him because you are paranoid. People probably knew you reported them because you make a big deal about it and tell everyone and their grandmother.No one is taunting you, you take everything extremely personally. He is being quite honest, which a lot of people are not with you. You actually taunted him in the screenshot above, and several times in your post. Don't even get me started on the other posts in this thread. You can taunt, but he can not? C'mon that is a double standard and pathetic. If you are going to instigate, expect what you started to come back at you. "Oh but he is staff", well yeah, but you are literally provoking him much like you claim people provoke you. You are no better than what you claim him to be at this point.
You literally went around calling people apes for the longest. Just doing a simple search in the Official Discord I easily can find you insulting people's intelligence and talking about inappropriate topics. Do you think that is a good quality for a youtuber of your stature?
No, it is in fact quite terrible. Calling people out for things you do all the time is incredibly hypocritical and makes it next to impossible for people to even consider taking you seriously.Belz, being totally honest, your behavior is still terrible. This is a wake up call. People are tired of the same old, same old and putting their feet down. Read between the lines, stop being so prideful. You are literally on the line and you just keep breaking rules. You always promise reformation, and then go back to the same stuff after a while. Repeating cycle. No one is going to get you banned, you are going to get yourself banned. Stop blaming others, and boss up. Take responsibility and break your cycle.
"He is taunting me oh my god", maybe just don't reply? There is a an option to block people. People mess with you to get a reaction from you. And because you are so prideful, you give them exactly what they want. Belzebel going off the deep end, the sitcom, silver server tonight at 9pm.Being the bigger person requires minimal effort, and you do not have to waste your time with comebacks or revenge. And if you become a good egg, you really do not have to interact with staff or deal with them. Weird thought, eh?
Now, you do have every right to be angry and express yourself, yes he did a bad thing, we get it. No need to beat a dead horse.
But making false claims such as "staff are sexist", calling people power abusers with out evidence or context, witch hunting, and the like are not okay.
It is incredibly hard for anyone who knows your full history to ever really take you seriously because of how you continue to act and have acted. Unless you change your rhythm, it will remain this way.
Legit this thread is going in circles about him just because people are unable to wrap their heads around something other than BAD THING, and instead have a constructive dialogue. The criticism has already been taken, he seems willing to change, and Keita has taken the steps according to policy. That is the resolution. There is not much more that can or will happen, unless another incident occurs, and it is the community that is the judge of whether he has grown or not later down the line. Beating the BAD THING horse at this point is just redundant and silences other dialogue that could be had in the meanwhile. Some other users in this thread actually had some thoughtful insights and suggestions.Anyways I told myself I was not going to say anything because I just lurk, if you can call tagging Luke everyday in the Official Server that. However, hopefully this opens your eyes.
tl;dr #FreeFelix give him a chance to prove you wrong, he proved me wrong.
And you want change? Start by setting and example and being the change you wish to see.Hey Sugar. Good to see you back.
It's surprising you are against me now, but it's ok. I hope you truly saw the whole story and not what they told you in PROs discord.
I agree with you that they gave me many chances. However, I was just an artist with no power to ban and handle appeals.
It is hard to give someone that wants to ban you a chance.
But again, I already lost my role and got punished. So talking about my mistakes here now is irrelevant.
Keita said he warned Qeight. But he kept taunting me and other players. I'm not sure if you were active in the entire forum to see.
Maybe I do exaggerate sometimes, but not all the time. I kinda have a reason to exaggerate too.
Not sure if you saw players mocking me and sending zipped files. Qeight saw and reacted with "aw" instead of deleting the posts that are irrelevant to the thread, specially the one with a zipped file that could be virus or porn. If he doesn't have the maturity to be a GM, he shouldn't be. I was never a GM and I agree I would be terrible at it lol.
I wonder if he wants a second role to get staff rewards, since spawn editor don't get the same rewards... But, I've never seen him in game, so I don't know what he would do with rewards.. haha
Interesting how you completely ignore how rude Qeight was with me in DMs to remind me of the rules. Should you remind the admin too? He started it, so I thought it was allowed, you know? Or is it something only staff can do? I didn't know.. I was just following the example.
The reason why I sent the screenshots was to prove he is actually rude and insulting for no reason. It is hard for me to trust a GM that clearly hates me. He can handle bans and appeals, Sugar.
I confess, I rolled my eyes a few times reading your post, so I couldnt read every thing. But I also read you say "you of all people have no right to say who deserve or not the role". I mean... I get that I'm toxic, but I'm a player too. If the thread is here to talk about staff and player relationship, why can't I give my opinion? Well, why don't you ask the rest of the community then? Im sure I'm not the only one that thinks this way. Make sure to ask everyone though. Not only the ones brainwashing you.
It is hard to play with staff being bias and targeting you. You don't even play the game, so you don't really understand it.
Gladly you made a tmdr. You want us to give Felix a chance? Well, remove his GM roles and see if improves his behaviour. I don't want him to handle my appeals while he says "GET OUT OF MY DMS, U [hecking] WEIRDO". Obviously I don't intend to give them reasons to ban me, but you should know they will come with reasons.
Keita DMed me recently saying to give me names of "a leaker" that let me know [heck] said about me in staff. Then told me if I don't give names I would be banned. So... I would be banned for RECEIVING a leak of staff trash talking me. Im telling you... they are coming with any reason to ban me.
Anyway, glad to see you back. Let's talk more in discord.
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8 hours ago, Qeight said:
@BelzebelI'll be short with you, you are at the edge of a permanent ban due to your many infractions, you exceed our Punishment Policy already if your warnings weren't just that. I doubt you will ever change so we leave it at that & just ride it out with you till you inevitable break our rules again. The punishment is applied equally to all users even if you think it isn't. I could write a big post about you however I think you are a lost cause, beyond rehabilitation. Answering you more than this will be a waste of my time. We talked a lot already 1. | 2. | 3. , I honestly believe you can't change for the better & I doubt you ever actually tried. I still wish you only good things in life.
I expected to be quoted for something relevant. But again, my expectations superestimating you is my fault.
Here you just said your irrelevant opinion about me and a prediction of my permaban.
You didn't say anything about "yea, I taunt you and other players and I should stop", instead you just quoted me to say "I won't waste my time on you".
Then you quote Teerav to finally say what you wanted to say about me. Are you always that scared of being direct when its not to call people idiot/stupid? I think it's a bad quality for a GM. haha
8 hours ago, Qeight said:My "attitude": I called teerav stupid for a comment he made that I genuinely think is stupid to make for someone who was a content staff and a moderation staff.
I know you quoted Teerav in here and not me, but I will just let you know he won't respond. He said that after Wally's reply he realized no one is actually trying to understand anything and he decided to stop wasting time. However, I have some hope, for some reason. Maybe I'm truly stupid.
So... when I was staff, I couldn't say everything in my mind, even if I find people stupid. You being allowed to behave like this just makes me think how selective they are. I wasn't allowed to be an [inappropriate term], but somehow you are. You didn't lose your role....
8 hours ago, Qeight said:I take @Belzebelas example here, she constantly complains that "nothing" gets done against people that harass her but I can even name cases where I banned users' because they attacked/harassed/insulted her.
Walk in my shoes for a bit, let's see how long you will take all the insults, lies before you make one disrespectful comment to someone who should have known better already from the start. This post made it seem like I was insulting people left and right however this was not the case.
My attitude shifted a little bit, I am a bit more rough when I say things, this might come off as insulting but often isn't meant that way. Staff got way more off it, they believe I am incapable of making forum posts like this. lolNow here you start taunting me while, in the same post, said you didn't want to waste time on me. You have @g3n3r4lcomplex?
So, congrats for doing your job. Congrats for banning people for harassing a player. But, it still doesn't change the fact you taunt me and want to see me banned. Not only you, but apparently the majority, if not all the staff team. I guess it's not necessary to talk about Keita's recent DMs.
I didn't understand your second paragraph. You were/are insulting people. Just search in PRO's discord: from: Felix (whatever your name there is) and the word "idiot". I know you probably find idiot to think idiot is an insult or considered disrespectful. But hey, I remember a staff being suspended from staff for a similar reason haha. Apparently, you are immune to that.
About your last paragraph. I asked you a genuine question and you responded with:
I don't know man.. this was the reason I made that video on "how to get unbanned". You were banning a lot of people, they were all complaining to me about you and I don't know why they were coming to me. You responded that way and finally blocked me as I told you to. Good boy!
I'm sorry if all the hate you getting is my fault. I don't think I have the power to influence people that much, but... yea, it wasn't my intention.
It is just really hard to like you and this is a terrible attitude for a GM. As a spawn editor, I think you are doing great. I can see you are either passionate about it or you just like the status of being superior. But both reasons doesn't matter if you are doing a good job.
I'm just being honest, you don't deserve to be a GM.
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1 hour ago, g3n3r4l said:
Do you really believe that many people haven't just set their age on YouTube to be 18+ just so they don't get an age restriction. I've personally spoken to many viewers on your channel, and know that they are <18. Yes YouTube can say what it wants, but that's more info that can be forged. Against the law all you want, the government can't confirm anything, because tracking your data isn't something they're allowed to do. Google is a different story, but governments aren't allowed to track your data. Also lying against your age is only a thing on government/employment contracts. Making a random Gmail doesn't really do anything
About your poll idea, again, it's your influence that has already spread. Now, no matter what, you've got your points implanted in people's heads, that no matter what happens, it will be inaccurate
I know I said it was my only post, but some things just need to be addressed
I think, as a Dmod you should focus on the purpose of the thread. Instead of being against me and proving me wrong, why not focus on improving the relationship between staff and players.
Answering your predictable quote though, yea I know people can lie their ages. However, Youtube is telling me my people are over 18. So thats the only facts I have. The same way I can't confirm my public is over 18, you guys can't confirm my public isn't either. You have no facts at all. And, even if they were under than 18, this is not my problem. Now can you please focus on what matters and forget about me, Dmod?
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Nvm this will only create drama. Can't delete the post so I'm editing.
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4 minutes ago, Kary0plasma said:
Depends entirely on where you live and what kind of age verification you circumvent. For example, it's not illegal for EU citizens to lie to Google (and therefore YouTube) when they are being asked about their age when making an account as it's just volunteered information. But it would be illegal to forge a document to proof your age should Google require you to do so to access content.
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If you guys use "we lie our age" as an argument, you are the ones with less than 2 braincells lol. Lying your age is legit against the law. You guys are trying to blame on me something your parents can't control. This is more than ridiculous and that's what staff is defending and supporting with memes and reactions.
And btw, why are players allowed to send zipped files in this thread? What if they send virus or porn? You guys are focusing on the wrong stuff.
You all goofy yo.
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34 minutes ago, Cyanirl said:
just posting that here
Then show me the real facts, genius. Lying your age is against the law btw.
If you don't believe the youtube graphics are accurate, then you probably have the real ones?
Can you CONFIRM my audience is under 18? Or is that what you want to believe just so you have a reason to see me wrong? If you can't confirm, you should NOT be saying "her audience is under 18", unless you have proof. Show me the proof.
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2 hours ago, Frucht said:
Before I start a few words to @Belzebel: You are promoting 18+ content on your social media, including your Discord (Guild Discord!) based around a Pokemon game with a usually rather young audience for your own personal gain. In that case, money and attention. Feel free to deny that, but we both know the truth, I have known you for years. Here is the issue though. As soon as somebody does not agree with your opinion or dislikes you for named reasons, he is a hater, jealous of you or whatnot and you genuinely believe that you are doing nothing wrong. You also genuinely believe that Staff is targetting you, but the truth is, you break rules all the time and usually get away with a warning. Maybe you should start to reflect whether or not everyone else is the problem, or maybe you and work on it?
Besides liking your thread and agreeing with what you said about staff, you mentioned me, so I will respond you.
I don't understand why you are talking about my 18+ content. I don't know what is the relevance of this topic. If I want money and attention, shouldn't that be my problem? I don't get it.
You say I do that in a Guild Discord, based around a Pokemon game. Is that a problem? What does this thread has to do with that? People click if they want. Also, all PRO related discords I join has a NSFW channel where they post things a lot more... graphic. You pointing only to me is the proof I'm the target. Even Staff discord has a NSFW channel, and you know it lol.
Oh, you mentioned my audience btw.
Only 5.5% of it is under 18. You guys REALLY need to stop taking information out of your third eye, and come to me with real facts. It's starting to annoy me.
Also, you know a little bit of me for.. what? a few months? You don't know me enough. You only know what I show, and thats not even 1% of what I am.
If people are jealous, haters, whatever, I don't care. I don't care about people. I care about me, about what I do and the ones who support me. If I want attention and money or not, it is my problem. Actually, I don't see any problem with that at all. If no one is getting hurt and no laws are being broken, I don't even know why you are even mentioning it.
My close friends disagree with me all the time. We call each other out all the time. I don't have any problem with improving and learning. My main concern is the game, the place I spend time and money on. Unfortunately staff is part of that, and they have the power to enhance and ruin a game. So I still don't know why you talk about me. Staff is the topic, not me.
Other than that, congrats for having the balls to say what many others are afraid to.
THINGS I THINK SHOULD BE IMPROVED BETWEEN STAFF AND PLAYERS RELATIONSHIP
I already mentioned and showed the evidences I could of staff taunting me to start drama, and celebrating when I get punished. I just don't agree with this behaviour from staff, and that's what I want to see improved.
About my toxic behaviour, that's on me, and believe me, I never stopped reflecting on my actions. I need help from staff though. I need them to stop taunting me. That will help me a lot. I need them to stop waiting for chaos to happen. I need them to warn once, and if they continue, mute. Otherwise it will be hard for me to believe staff doesn't want drama to happen.
I was staff before, and I remember being in voice chat with some of them including mods and heard one of them saying "Ah.. im to lazy to deal with this" while people where avoiding filters and insulting each other in Battle chat. He legit waiting until things went upside down. I won't mention any names, but I wasnt the only one in the VC. The ones who were there know it. Deny it if you want, you guys know it happens.
Another thing is.. Wally, I respect you like a daddy. I only get upset with the ones I care about. All I want is you to be more.. approachable. Discuss changes with your staff team. Don't just change something out of nowhere with no discussions. Believe me, I know the impulses of having the power to change, add and remove whatever I want. But, it is important to let the ones who help you keep the game alive have impact in your choices too. Ofc, it is your game, you do whatever you want, but that's just what I feel should be better for the game.
Also, please.. the layers. I will never stop bothering you about this. :v
I'm not trying to rule anyone, I'm just giving my opinion on how to improve our relationship.
And please guys, stop mentioning me about my outside business. I only mentioned it because Keita did, and I expected it to end there, but it continued with other players quoting it and I kept responding. But now, let's end the topic about it, ok? This thread is not the place for this. If you don't like it, if you want to insult me or whatever, DM me. Go hate me there all you want. Don't do this here, I don't want more problems.
Alright, NOW this is my last post. smh
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Alright, I know this is already chaotic, so I will start by saying this will be my last post here.
I know many people want me to get "thick skin" and all that. Yea, I agree. Being a Youtuber and following the business I chose, I do have to get used to the bullshit and bla bla bla. Wasting my time explaining myself to people who just wanna hate will drive me insane. Even Jesus had haters.
Most of you don't know why I'm so salty. Yea, indeed, Im salty, but I have reasons. I don't like to expose DMs, I really don't. I thought a lot about doing this or not... but since Keita is so willing to expose me, and knowing how staff works, he will close the thread immediately after doing that, so I'm just gonna do this now.
Oh, and btw, I'm not afraid of being exposed, I'm already used to it. I just didn't wanna be shut down after he does that, so I will show you now.
It is interesting how admins can break rules:
Obviously, he will counter my argument saying the policy was edited or something like that. Interesting how staff have the power to change the policy and rules to their convenience.
But anyway, he is doing this because:
I admit, I expressed myself bad. It is true that staff don't like me, and it is hard to prove that they ban me cause they don't like me. I know my bans had reasons and it was my fault. However, it did have some staff taunting there. Staff waiting for the chaos to start for them to do something. I can't prove that because honestly I dont know how to take screenshots of that. I don't wanna expose others.. I don't want it to become more of a [heck] show that is is now. But, I know most of you know this happens. If you are active in All chat, you know what I'm talking about.
I tried to find the screenshot where I was talking in PRO's discord and Qeight provokes me by saying "so many blocked messages, I think someone flipped", something like that. He said that the same day I got banned. Asked a friend to find that screenshot, but all my messages were deleted and it just looks out of context. I'm pretty sure if you were there when the chaos happened, you remember this. He probably also deleted his messages after the drama to save his butt too. Again, I'm not saying I don't deserve to be banned. I'm saying he provoked it for this to happen.
After I got banned, he posted this:
Celebrating that I got banned.
So yea... I have my reasons to think they are bias. Again, this is just one example. I didn't bother to waste my time taking screenshots of staff being bias, because they have the power to ignore and just say I'm wrong. They have the power to pretend brain damage. They have the power to ban and silence me. They have the power to close any thread they want, so I never really bothered, but when they call me a liar, I will at least try to prove I'm not lying. It is hard to get prove when you are outside of the platforms, specially when it already happened. If I try to get proof again, it will be my permaban.
Don't get me wrong. Even though I disagree with how staff deals with things, I still like the game. I don't wanna get banned again. I respect a lot of staves too, specially the artists, mappers, scripters, devs... etc. I know it sounds like I'm hating the entire team, but I just don't like how the moderation team works. You guys can moderate how you want, who am I to be the director here, but I just thought the purpose of this thread was to talk about this.
I didn't want this to become a [heck] show of exposing players and staves, but it is what it is now. He started it, and he will finish it.
I'm not scared of having my bans exposed, we all know I'm toxic. The difference is, I'm not staff. I don't represent the game. I'm not the one you guys are investing time and money into. Im not the one with power to ban and change the rules in my favour.
When I was staff, they always told me they expect a mature behavior than the players, because the staff represents the game! If they hate on me, I have to ignore and be the bigger person. I don't see them doing the same. They just defend each other like a bunch of little kids. They don't accept criticism.
Yea, I know Qeight is getting a lot of hate and all that, and a lot of you say "Imagine if it was with you, how would u respond?" WELL DUH! IMAGINE? IT HAPPENS TO ME! If he has the reasons to be toxic, I do too. It is just pathetic when it comes from staff though.
Now, lets watch when Keita comes to expose my bans like no one knows about it. I won't respond next, so don't expect the drama to continue.
Have a nice day.
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7 hours ago, g3n3r4l said:
Don't get me involved with this, i just want to clarify this
The vote is from YOUR 311 players, it's from players who watch you, or know you, and listen to what you do. Understandably there will be a few cases of people that just voted because they saw the poll, but for the majority, it's your fanbase. If you suggest something, they'll do similar, if you use something, they'll as well. It's a hive mindset and you're the queen bee. You've developed such a strong reputation throughout PRO with your youtube, and grown it significantly that a lot of people will follow along with what you say. So if you tell people that Felix is a bad person, and then provide backing reasons, most of those people will believe you, and agree with you, even if they have none of their own reasons to.
That's all I'm saying, please don't get me involved in this, it's the only comment I'm making
So, why not make an official poll? Let's see if it comes any different. If staff cares about players think and if they are so confident that they believe Qeight is loved for the majority, why not do it? Would be a nice way to make me shut up and prove how wrong I am.
3 hours ago, ShadowDanny said:Its not up to you to decide, this doesn't look very good. This just makes this whole situation blow out of proportion. If 'said' staff see's this, you expect him to be happy and keep his mouth shut? Yes.. most staff are not perfect. But using your Platform on a Pokemon game? Come one. I always say this and I will say it again. If you don't break the rules, this staff won't bother you, its common sense. This whole situation, is just becoming about you. It looks like you are just salty at the fact that you got banned. How do you know the staff didn't punish those people? You just assume you are the only one that has gotten banned. Heck I can even say with confidence (But not pride) I have much more bans than you. You always talk about how staffs target you.. but... Have you ever asked why? Many people might attack me for calling you out, but I have to do it. You said someone like Teerav, but come on (Isn't Teerav personally close to you?) You make it look like just because your close-friend who has a perfect record to say, thinks a staff is bad, the 'said' staff must get punished. You say they banned you for some wrong reason, however, this may sound dumb but.. Emfire (Is a PRO guild.) It may be your own private guid, but it has ties to PRO itself. Soo you saying its your own guild, just doesnt seem valid. I could say the same thing when someone from PRO, starts sending questionable pictures to other players. Its DM chat right? But the victim and the attacker, both have ties to the game, so the game can take any decision they want on the attacker. Keita is not one to ban people out of blue... I say this cause I have had a case with him, and I can say he is respectful and patient.
Honestly, I know this isn't even about Staff relationship anymore. This is just becoming about 1 staff and that is Qeight. I see no problem with the guy, he is doing the best for the game. He's not perfect, but he isn't bad. You all want to treat this staff like he is the tyrant of all staffs. But he is just brutally honest. If this was a normal player, you all would call him a troll. But because he is a GM and he has power, you all want him good. Thats not fair. The staffs are doing all they can. If you just keep attacking this staff, I will sure as heck forget about the fact im a staff and slander you.I usually ignore staff fanboys. You are literally just attacking me to defend them.
Emfire is my private discord. Whatever is sent there does not concern the game. Otherwise, all guild leaders should be banned too. Don't pretend you have never seen a nsfw channel in their discord servers. They send more fucked up [heck] than I do. But for some reason, because it's me, it's the end of the world. Give me a break. Also, this isnt the place to talk about this. I'm trying to hard to just go back to the [hecking] topic that matters, but when you keep pointing [heck] about this, I have to come with the real facts.
The only reason I got banned was because the I mentioned the word Patreon in the official discords. Didn't expect to be banned in game for something that happened in a discord, that's all I complained about.
Also, I know they didn't get punished cause I legit have 6k people spread around the servers telling me what happens after I've been kicked. I see them mocking me and sometimes staff too. They don't get punished because players and staff both hate me, so they celebrate it.
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2 hours ago, Kary0plasma said:
I hope you don't think that the "survey" that you posted in your YouTube channel is even slightly representative or should even be commented at, so I am going to forgo that you brought it up and address the other points from the view of a by-stander.
You're right that you cannot stop people from fake reporting you that's just how people are like when they crave attention, however I am confused as to why you bring it up. You made it very clear in your posts that you think your ban is justified and that you accept it. So what is the point of telling people how the ban changed you and how you dropped the toxic behavior you were exhibiting? That just means you are feeling remorse and that you matured, congratulations.
As I said, some of the things should probably have been discussed in private, but I really don't think it was done to discredit you. Calling it "the most immature thing [you've] ever seen from an admin" is just a mindless hyperbole. In general, I found his answers in this thread rather conclusive so far and I don't understand why you have the feeling of not being heard. Keita probably heard you a bit too well.
Being toxic in response to toxicity is still being toxic and should be punished. So if someone reports such an altercation, both parties will get punished, or neither party, as I have experienced in the past. Naturally, that means that you have to hold your tongue more than others, but that is the price of fame, so to speak. Requesting leniency because of that is not the answer, it just extrapolates the problem. If a mod in chat sees [heck] like in your screenshots, I am sure they will punish the idiots accordingly, but of course they are not always around, not much you can do about that if you don't want to report. Then ignoring them is the next best thing you can do.
Another point: Why are you so adamant that PreHax didn't get punished just because staff didn't oust him? Or do you feel that removal from the staff team is the only valid way of changing something? I mean, looking at it realistically, PreHax stopped with the sarcastic emoji reactions in this thread even tho he has been active in the forum.
Just that my intentions are clear: I understand your problem and I don't want to convince you, I just feel that your view on the matter is a bit one-sided.
Not sure if you are pretending to not understand what I meant or I really suck at English.
I only brought the [heck] about myself up because keita did. I have the tendency of explaining my reasons when someone point something about me. Maybe wasn't necessary, but what's done is done.
And no, I didn't post it to show I changed or regret or whatever normal people like to do. I will never change, but I don't wanna get banned, that's all.
About my survey, I know it doesn't not represent the entire community, but it is the vote of 311 active players. I would love to suggest that pro staff made a poll like this too, but maybe it's too extreme.
I personally don't believe Qeight will change either. From my experience in staff, they will still say [heck] about players in their private discord, keita will still call him out when he he starts being arrogant again, but never punished. Yes, I believe the game itself will change to better if Qeight is out of staff. The game started to fall when he joined back. I'm not a fan of the spawn changes either.
Not sure what can be done. You can ask Qeight yourself if he cares less about changing or treating players well, even the ones he thinks are idiots. I think he is honest enough to not lie about this one.
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1 hour ago, Kary0plasma said:
Aight, gotta say what I gotta say about things like this.
Keita merely replied to you when you were asking for answers. The only thing you can really accuse him of is that it could have been discussed in private and that he could have asked beforehand if it was OK to publicly divulge that drama. But you really cannot blame him for answering a direct question in a thread about transparency, come the heck on.
I still agree that PreHax acted poorly and I still think he should at least publicly acknowledge that his behavior was straight from the gutter, but I have no reason to distrust Keita when he says that staff does handle it internally which implies PreHax got the instruction to shut up and concentrate on his staff duties for the time being.
The one trying to make this thread about yourself is you and only you. I don't think anyone else here would answer the question what this thread is about with "That Belzebel is a bad girl."
Look, I'm very sorry that people heckle you about your Patreon, but you should honestly have had the foresight to see that coming. If it pisses you off so much, you should just report the offenders and put them on ignore. Complaining about it in a thread like this is out-of-place and adds nothing of value. It only makes it look like you are salty that you got banned and want some form of absolution.
I asked questions about staff. Keita replied some of the questions yes. All of them? No. Then he jumped to expose [heck] said in privates discord. If I do [heck] like that, I get either called out and have my post deleted or I get banned. He is staff though, he can edit the rules, policy and get a way with any [heck].
Also, I was talking about a staff. A staff that, out of 311 people, 68% voted that they think he is a dictator and should not be staff. So, it's not just my opinion, it's a lot of people. I don't see more than 300 people online in a server. But, because I am the one pointing it out, Keita will use my own [heck] against me to invalidate my points, which is the most immature thing I've ever seen from an admin.
If someone like Teerav, someone who doesn't have a bad reputation or any infractions ctrl c and v my post, Keita would probably take it serious and not worry about grabbing screenshots from private servers to use against him. This is why I think staff is bias.
And I don't give a [heck] about people being annoying about my business, btw. All I'm doing is to point out what I find ridiculous about staff and what I wanted it to be improved. It will be impossible to get people to stop watching me and reporting me. But thats also on me, all I gotta do is to not give them any excuse possible to be reported or banned. But I'm not complaining about that in specific. Keita pointed out that I have the biggest ban history in the game, and I simply told him why. No one pays attention on the other players, they pay attention about me. They also don't notice I only get toxic because someone else get toxic, but only I get banned.
And as I said, I'm not gonna report people. I used to report before, it was the most time consuming [heck] ever. It's easy for the whole world to report me, because I am only one person. But its hard for me to report the whole world, you get what Im saying?
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Since Keita turned this thread about me instead of staff itself, here is another example that explains why I have the most ban history in game.
My last ban happened because I mentioned my outside business in one of the official PROs discords. I think it is important to mention that I wasn't the only one talking about it. Actually people in said discord was asking me questions about it. Where they banned with me? Ofc not.
Anyway, I logged in game just a moment ago and this is how All chat went off.
People taunting me about my bans. I think one of the rules in game and discord is not to talk about bans.
People mentioning my patreon and onlyfans.
This happens a lot. Will they ever be banned? Depends. It depends if they are reported. Who will report them? No one. No one cares about them.
Now, imagine if it is me saying stuff like that. I don't wanna sound like my ego is huge or something, but unfortunately, I have a lot of haters that want to see me banned. They will watch me and report me for anything, while they do the same thing but dont get reported.
Again, I'm not saying I don't deserve my bans, but I'm saying I only have such huge history of bans comparing to others because people watch me more than others.
If I stopped my life to report every single player that breaks the same rules I broke, I better get paid for that. Otherwise Im just wasting time.
Im avoiding the best I can to not be toxic. And you all know I only have such toxic behaviour when Im being provoked, but ofc, only I get banned, because they only report me. Who cares about the guy insulting me personally? They are all doing it anyway, even some of the staff team in their private discord.
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They say Qeight was warned for his immature behavior, but I don't see improvement.
A GM allowing irrelevant posts like this that are here clearly to mock players taking this thread serious, and reacting with an emoji that supports it.
If Keita really warned him like it was said, he clearly didn't learn his lesson. He will only get really punished when he provokes staff, and he knows it. Provoking players and behaving like a 10 year old is allowed if you are a staff. Pathetic.
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15 hours ago, Orihara said:
I'm not really one to take sides since i believe both parties are wrong with their approach. However, i dont think false information is necessarily the way to go with things.
First of all lets take a look at what teerav says "Classic PRO GM attitude" While that post is about Spawns. Being a GM has hardly have to do anything with it, in that regard thats hardly a valid criticism to be taken into context.
As for felix, his attitude is wrong and he knows that, hence why he was issued a warning from Keita. Staff have their own policies to follow on behavior, rulebreak etc, i know because i made them. Just because his behaviour is not acceptable doesnt mean staff will ignore those policies and out-right kick him.
And yes, Moderation and Spawn editing has nothing to do with eachother, the only common ground they have is felix having both roles.
As for general feedback, attacking someone personally is not a valid feedback, nor will it pressure someone into reverting or adjusting changes, it will only backfire because in itself, it is a rulebreak to harass a staff member excessively, now if we take into consideration that barely anyone has recieved a punishment despite calling quite despicable things, it disproves the so called "abusive attitude" being angry does not absolve anyone from following rules. period. Staff or player alike.
I don't think you get it. The comment Teerav made has NOTHING to do with his spawn editor work. Teerav wasn't talking about his WORK, he was talking about what Felix SAID, and as a staff, it just looks pathetic. I wasn't attacking anyone personally. All I did was ask a few questions and criticize the behaviour of some staff. Thats literally the purpose of this thread. Keita replied SOME of the questions, not all of them, with examples that have nothing to do with what I was talking about. Then, out of nowhere, started posting screenshots of something that happened in a private discord. He just decided to flip the table on me for no reason. I topic is about staff, then he talks about me. Wtf? I don't have the right to criticize just because I have an outside content that he doesn't like? Or because I was banned before? It is easy to be banned when the staff don't like you and watch you like a babysitter, taunting you to do or say something wrong so they have an excuse to ban you, specially when you can control the rules and don't need to provide evidence of any [heck] to justify someones bans. Even worse when the same person who banned you handles your [hecking] appeal.
Just to clarify in case I didn't express myself well. I'm not saying I don't deserve my bans. I'm aware of my toxic behaviour. What I'm saying is, it is easy to be banned when I'm targeted by literally everyone. Because I have a youtube channel and I'm pretty known in the community, people try to get my attention in many ways. Poking and taunting me is one of the ways. When I show screenshots to staff of players insulting me, they ignore it until I respond back so they can have an excuse to punish me and the players, sometimes only me.
This is an example:
I log in, ask for help, someone calls me cringe. I ignore it, someone else tells me to "fakaf", invading filter.
Someone else asks what I need help with, the one who calls me cringe calls him simp.
This happens ALL the time. I admit, I'm not very good at controlling myself towards taunts, but I do ignore them a lot. Sometimes, tho, specially on my period, I will respond back.
Im pretty sure staff didn't do anything about the ones taunting me. But if I responded back, they would appear real quick.
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Here's some example of staff being immature and defending each other even when called out.
Teerav quotes what Felix/Qeight said in one of the threads he made himself, implying he doesn't care about players criticism since he worked hard in his spawn editor work. If you have 1 braincell functioning, you understand he is quoting what Felix said in his thread, and not talking about his spawn editor work.
This is how Felix responds, and other staves gather to defend him and insult Teerav.
Felix didn't give a heck about what Teerav said, but he cared to call him stupid. What an example of staff behaviour.
Then, Piine, another staff, completely miss the topic, spin it around to try to make Teerav sound stupid.
Moderation and Spawn Editor are different roles, yes. However, no one said they are the same. Being a GM and being able to ban and handle appeals, gives you the same powers of a Moderator and more. And yes, Qeight is a GM.
Then he follows to mention he was a Coordinator and expected him to not be clouded. So... basically, they didn't give attention to the actual quote Teerav mentioned. They rather insult him, like a 14 year old kid. If one thing is cringe, its this Keita.
They clearly don't accept criticism, and they are the only ones allow to insult players.
Oh, and btw, these were screenshots taken from the actual PROs discord, not any random private discord. A discord that actually concerns staff and the game. I wish you did the same when you want to expose me and [heck]. But well, staff has the power to do anything they want, right?
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11 hours ago, Shinohara said:
Hello, @Belzebel.
I will divide this post in different parts in order to provide as much clarification as possible, pre-announcing that it will include details in order to support the statements that will be done.
Unfortunately, the way ban and appeal works is something you have never been able to grasp despite I have tried to explain you them several times, both when you were within the staff team and as well outside.
The problem starts in the first place when you say "quick to ban", making it sound in a bad thing, for the simple reason that you have no clue about how bans works despite I explained you several times every time you were getting punished for something and even in other moments.
Warning exists, but there are few variables that affect how and if they are issued. I have already explained you them several times, but lets mention some here:
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The rule that is being violated:
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For Chat Infraction & Trade Infraction, if sending a warning here or not is totally and entirely situational cause there are both big and small infractions in both.
Chat Infraction
Making the example of something small, like it can be a little spam, we generally just issue a warning if the user has never broken rules before. If the user has already broken rules before, and therefore this means he already is familiar with rules and specially already received a warning for something else before, we issue a mute ban.
For something heavier, for example involving racism like it can be «"Ehi you all gentleman should die"» or, making a non-racist example, something like «"you [hecking] retard go [hecking] die you [wonderful person]», which is obviously way more serious and unacceptable, we just issue a mute ban directly without any previous warning.
The reason why there is a division between the severity of the infraction is obvious, where one is a little thing that does not damage anyone or, if it does, is something small, and the other (racist/insult, etc) is something that affect the whole community and damages it.
Trade Infraction
Exactly like Chat Infractions, even here there are infractions more serious than others.
A small Trade Infraction could simply be a user advertising a pokemon wrongly (eexample saying he sell a pokemon saying it's all +20 when in reality its stats are below), while a bigger one is a succesful scam.
First is a warning, remembering the fact that warning are issued only if you have not received any punishment before, cause if you did then you should have familiarized with the rules and also have already received a warn, while the second instead (succesful scam) is a direct trade ban for X days.
Even here, the reason is simple. in the second one is a real damage to a player that sometimes cannot even be reversed if not reported on time/fast and therefore deserves a direct trade ban while in the first a direct trade ban is not needed (remembering the previous punishment stuff) as the damage is something really small.
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GM Infraction
Giving that GM handles the most serious infractions possible, warnings before ban do not exists here or are really really rare.
Some of the serious things GM handle are: Real Money Trading (accounts, item, pokemons being sold or bought for real-life money which also harm and destroy economy), Unauthorized Software (usage of illegal software to gain unfair advantage over other players and also harm and destroy the economy), Bug Abusing (abusing of possible bugs to gain unfair advantage over other users and destroy economy, there was a issue in 2018 were people could duplicate Coin Capsule for example).
None of these things deserve a warn before ban.
Imagine someone duplicating Coin Capsules (like happened in 2018) on purpose and starting to sell them.
Going there and telling them «"Ehi, saw you are bug abusing and selling the products of it, can you just stop please?"» after the user gained millions after selling bug abused things.
It would be incredibly stupid and totally unfair toward the honest players.
Same goes toward someone who is using Macro (unauthorized software) to farm money or pokemon for hours while being outside of home.
What do you tell them? «"Ehi, sorry for the disturb, saw you using macro and farmed 3 millions and also caught a epic charmander while you were sleeping, just don't do it anymore, ok?"»
It would be totally unfair toward honest players who farmed hard to obtain those things.
No need to say but if the users in the appeal are honest and cooperative, and the damage they brought/did can be removed (example they farmed 5 millions pokedollars with macro, and they still have them so they can be removed) then we will obviously offer a second chance if that's their first infractions.
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For Chat Infraction & Trade Infraction, if sending a warning here or not is totally and entirely situational cause there are both big and small infractions in both.
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The punishment history of the user:
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If someone has already previous punishments received, the user should be already well aware of the rules and have familiarized with them, specially since they should have received already a warn or got told by staff to familiarized with rules during the appeal.
I mean, rules in general should be read before playing if we would like to be technically true, but we are anyway kind enough to issue just a warning at the first infraction and remind users to familiarize with them.
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If someone has already previous punishments received, the user should be already well aware of the rules and have familiarized with them, specially since they should have received already a warn or got told by staff to familiarized with rules during the appeal.
Some appeals mainly take long time for two (or three, although third is really small) reasons:
- Infraction is a really problematic and big one (for example Account Hacks and RMT)
- User has a really long punishment history, on multiple platform (game, official pro discord, official tournaments discord + other stuff like spreading lies to incite riots toward staff) and therefore we need to understand what and how we want to actually proceed.
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Smallest of the things, Staff members being volunteers and therefore having like 3 hours available today, maybe 6 tomorrow and maybe only 1 the next day.
Teerav was a moderation staff member in the past, you can ask him about the activity time, where there are people who can just handle 2 hours a day, which seems a lot but is not.
But lets go down and make an example of a really problematic case, making a GM one for example, which is probably the most known complaint:
Example:
PlayerA starts to sell their account goods in change of real-life money (EUR/USD just to give an example). He sells 500.000 pokedollars and 9 pokemon to 10 different users.-
Yes, what just described looks incredibly messed up, however that's how 95% of the RMT cases are.
In this case what we do in the first place is banning all the seller accounts (obviously) and then start to check all his trade logs of all his accounts from A to Z (even past one that might be 1 year before the RMT happened) to find every single user he sold the items to, and the trades that looks suspicious and investigate them.
Now that we handled the seller, it's time for the buyers. Who bought from PlayerA(seller) is potentially involved in other RMTs, we cannot know until we find. So GM will go and check all the trade logs of the buyers cause maybe the buyer decided to move the bought goods on his alt accounts to hide them.
Now lets suppose that the buyer has 3 accounts, this means that GM will have to go and check all the trades and connections in those 3 accounts where maybe the user did hundred trades in his game-life.
Multiply that for the 10 different buyers and each buyer has 2-3 accounts (even if, as staff, most of the rmters have even more than 3-4), this means you will have to check all the trades and connections of 25-35 accounts (seller included).
In the end, during the appeal, the user will be asked to be honest and cooperative and we will have to verify everything he says with the data we obtained. We are pretty kind during appeals, to my opinion, to the point where people deny even speedhacking despite they do that in front of other 50 players and get reported by 10 of them but we still give them more chances to be honest so we can offer them another chance to play with their account.
Few months ago, our GMs found a mass RMTer group that had sold more than 800 millions pokedollars in total and the account to check were more than 155, which takes even more than a week.
If a player trust or not a staff member, it really does not mean the staff member is actually unprofessional or handle the case wrongly.
The only times where a staff member is not allowed to handle a punishment is when the said staff member is the one being involved. For example, is someone start to say "Keita is a [hecking] retarded idiot", I will not handle it myself but pass it to someone else.
Here below the evidence:
Really important as well that the reason you are not able to pick another MOD to handle your appeal is exactly what you have done, Belzebel, by playing the staff roulette and showing how much abusive that can be.
- You first were unsatisfied with Qeight;
- So you came to me (Keita/Shinohara), which was fine to a certain point despite Qeight did not abuse power or punished you wrongly (and 10 different admins from 2018, period Qeight joined, until now can confirm you that, Red/Sugar/Mage/Arkos/Eaty-Walross/Shaolan-Cames/Fluffles/Xylos/Shinohara/Logan/, so I don't understand why you say different unless you think all of us are blind).
- After that you were even unsatisfied with me (for the ban with the viadinho), which in the future evolved even in starting trashtalking me as well using as well racist terms and spreading lies about me (we'll get to this point later), therefore Walross talked to you about your behaviour (you were still in staff).
- After Walross, months later, in order to explain you the OnlyFans and what was wrong with having it in our community, Ehkoe intervened to help (both as your friend and as well as staff) and talk to you.
All of this in the last year of course (2020), however if we consider even before than 2020 then more than 8 different staff members handled your punishments, and you always complained about them.
Also, that number without counting all the one that actually warned you within the staff about your behaviour issues like you jumping within discussions about PVP (when we were still deciding it within staff and had not a council) and calling brainless people that had a different opinion than you and then calling them sexist after they asked you nicely and kind to refrain from coming out of nowhere and start insulting or disrespecting people calling them brainless for using a specific pvp style, as that's unnecessary and not productive.
Just leaving a little part of it here, to give context, but not gonna go further as it's unneeded and the aim is not shaming or similar but just explaining that a lot of the things you see are just reaction after the staff team (not only qeight) just is not able to absorb unjustified insults and hate anymore.
I mean, you were the first staff member in history that needed to be muted on the staff discord due to the continuous insults toward other staff.
In no mean this is meant to insult you, obviously, but what you always did and shown was that you just played the Staff Roulette and looked for a staff member who actually agree with your vision and not a staff member who handle your case fairly and justly as it's correct to be.
As for the appeal that was locked, it was not locked immediately but you were given an accurate explanation on why you were banned, shown you evidences as well of when you got warned about the topic (warned before the ban, out of kindness, so you had time to not commit that infraction anymore despite you had already more than 15 in total).
You however tried to force a change of MOD and ignore the appeal itself, despite as I explained above it's just not possible to change MOD for the reason mentioned above plus the fact of how you abused that "want a different mod" system or the complaint in general about who was banning you/the bans you were receiving from different people.Appeal was therefore locked in the moment you were not cooperative and just pretended us to once again do what you want.
No, staff member are not allowed to call others idiot. But, at the same time, players are not allowed to do the same.
Please, refer to this post I made before for some extra detail about the first part: HERE (Written by Shinohara) and HERE (written by Walross) and then keep reading here.
Qeight/Felix way of addressing the whole hate toward him has been wrong as he used a wrong language, but he reached a point where I think that he's totally right in being really mad about the way he's being treated.
You specially Belzebel throw a lot of hate toward staff, and this is easy to prove just by watching your videos where not only spread lies and trashtalk but also target people (despite you complained in the past where some player did it with you).
I will literally make an easy example here about it.
In the past, in a private discord, I mentioned not being a fan of onlyfans and I preferred it not existing for various reasons (I still think it like that and will add reasons below), and stating that's different, in my opinion, than a porn actor/ess career. Reasons for that thought are literally these (as stated as well to a friend I talked with few days ago):
However, you literally took my statement about it should not exists and transformed it into:
Put into a Google Doc and sent it into a guild discord with more than 2500 users inside. (and later said google doc/screenshot went around the community)
All of this is honestly cringe and sad.
Also, bias behaviour for the onlyfans ban (discussing your patreon that contains +18 material and even send a warn when you open it)? You were talked by 3 people before getting banned, exactly cause it could have been prevented, but you just ignored and kept doing it..
Lets add as well the fact that, as a person who cared about you in the past, I tried to stop you in 35 different ways from breaking rules even to the point of dedicating you 12 hours in a row to talk with you about explaining you the situation, how you were breaking the rules and how to actually behave and report taunts/provocation from other players without answering to them.
As you were ignoring me and keep breaking rules (and since discussing with you when you have a different opinion is just close to be impossible), I just tried to approach Teerav so he could have probably helped you better in understanding that you were just once punishment away from the permanent ban (where banning is something that no staff, and specially me, like doing).
I didn't talk to teerav with any bad intention, specially since I never had a bad intention within the PRO related environments.
I do this with the community in general, and I can prove it as I have done to you in PM.
Last week, a user was starting to break rules and getting worse, so what I did was asking to a friend of this person (within staff) to actually talk to him and block him before it would have gotten to far so we could have both fixed the situation before it was gonna be too late and avoided a ban, since ban sucks specially in situation they can be prevented.
However, about it, what did you do? Made this piece of art and spread it.
Included this into your google doc and spread that into a community with 2500 PRO players, which later got shared around.
This not only is racist for obvious reason (it clearly is as you are using my nationality to judge me) "Japanese sexist culture", regardless the fact you called "sexist" over than 20 staff members even when you were a staff member simply cause they told you to remain respectful if you wanted to participate in discussions and you were replying "Oh yeah, I am a woman so I have to shut up cause I am an object... you are sexist", despite no one ever said anything even minimally close to that (and there were other women in the discussion) but people just asked you to not insult people with a different mindset.
Which was followed by further spread of hate:
So, in short, no staff should be allowed to behave like this but recently the frustration shown and verbal abuse is literally a result of not being able to absorb anymore all of this hate based on lies and false things.
Small mention to the fact on how you created us hundred hours of work by saying in your video by calling it HOW TO GET UNBANNED saying that all the banned people should go and appeal again mentioning they felt humiliated by staff. Despite they had already appealed and complained already in the past, and I mention past cause you made people spam that stuff in more than 300 people all with the same copy paste message you passed them that had already their case solved and complain reviewed and handled by one of the admin/leader in the last 4 years.
This is just the tip of the iceberg obviously, but this is not the place aimed at pointing out everything unless further spread of lies are done where it will be necessary to point out any false-accuse and just say the truth done to avoid people being innocently being put in the bad light.
The same happen with players obviously, which is why I had no problems in mentioning Rise (a former staff member we kicked) who damaged players by power abusing.
In my eyes there is not just black or white, regardless if it's player or staff, truth is necessary and the spreading of lies and false accusation to put people in a bad light is just wrong.
I will also make you other examples here below to make you understand what I mean with player unjustified hate.
As I mentioned them in another post, I will simply put them in a spoiler so they are easier to close for the one who read them already:
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Example one.
Few months ago there was a really big group of Real Money Traders that in total were actually selling (obviously not from a single account but many) around 900.000.000 Pokedollars (900 millions).
Said staff member found it and banned all of them, both the seller and the buyer exactly as it is correct to be since Real Money Trading is a really serious infraction that can potentially destroy the game economy.
This group was from a single specific country and a few of the banned went to complain to a PRO Youtuber they were following saying they were unjustly banned and the staff member was racist.
This Youtuber started publicly accusing the staff member of racism and banning innocents, which has lead the story to get bigger and bigger until this person and staff (admins) started to receive threats from many users supporting that youtuber and thinking what said was true.
Now, unfortunately, we cannot address these things publicly cause it's sort of unprofessional to call out people in front of everyone.
However, the staff member called "idiot" or "stupid" (I don't remember which one of them) that person who did their best to put people against the staff who issued the punishment.
Was it correct to call them stupid/idiot? Honestly not correct and not even worth the staff member time.
However, we are humans and therefore get tilted as well when we experience such things. Does it justify any disrespect? Absolutely not, but that's exactly to say that things are never just black or white and there are many things that cannot be seen by a lot of users but users just assume that the staff his doing everything alone and starting it.
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Example two.
We have a user who was able to reach the total amount of mutes necessary to get permanently banned. This number is exactly 8.
In short, this user, a pvp player, was being toxic against opponents every time he had the chance to (mocking them or their skill after beating them, insulting them after this user was losing, etc)
Every mute the user was receiving he was making an appeal, where he was promising to not be toxic anymore and follow rules/respect other players.
However, after not even a month it was back to the start with the user being toxic again.
Time passes and mute by mute the user reaches his 8 mute and then the permanent ban as the limit was reached and crossed.
User at that point appeal, as he was permanently banned, and ask for a final chance. The staff member believes him and his words and decides to give him a last chance, however giving him a long mute despite the unban (this is how policy works after you get out from a permanent ban, having reached the limit, for toxicity).
The user really happy accept it, a mute of 250 days aimed at making him reform and chill.
The 250 days of mute passes, the user played without any problem until then. However, after the mute ends, not even a month later the user was back again being toxic, insulting after losing and mocking players after winning. This lasted for months, he continued doing it for months until we checked chat log and people started reporting him.
At that point, the staff members decide to issue the last permanent ban as it was clear that the user could not get reformed.
In that way we lost a PRO veteran player, and it sucks but at the same time we cannot give a special treatment to people only cause they are old players.
We had initially thought about having him playing with a permanent mute, however the limit was already reached and honestly it would have been unfair toward all the players (new and old) that this user had insulted and mocked until now.
Lets be clear, there are players that know they are toxic and therefore ask us (before getting punished) to kindly mute them so they are chill and can play without any concern. In fact, we appreciate that, as player realize they can't control themselves and want to play without causing problems.
Anyway, after that person was banned, he started to try to put an entire community (the community of his country) against staff, even going as far as saying that if he will find that staff member he will stab him with a knife and kill him.
In that way we got a big community from a country against us for something that staff had no fault with.
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Example three, and last one.
Long story short, during Summer Tournament 2019 the user winning the gold tournament had cheated the whole tournament by making someone else playing for him. Host were me and that staff member.
That staff member realized something was wrong and pushed for a investigation which has lead to the user being called racist by that person and spreading the fact he was racist for doing that check. (user was trying to defend himself and play the racist card to block the investigation)
Also, that person had a relative within the staff team that also pushed and promoted the "you are racist" card. (this is explained better later).
Unfortunately, time passes and we cannot find anything solid about it (we ban only after solid evidences) so we just close the investigation.
Few months later, this group of people have a discussion and stop being friends so they start to report each other. It was then that we found evidences about it, as they literally reported the whole tournament situation where, sadly, the staff member (the relative mentioned above) also helped in cheating the tournament and hiding it.
Needless to say, the staff member was kicked and the user got their first prize removed.
However staff got once again a big amount of people hating staff and that staff member despite nothing wrong was done on our end, but people just blindly believed their friend.
Already addressed this Staff Roulette above and how much abusive it can be.
Action will be taken only if the staff member is directly involved in the case (e.g If you in-game insult me, I cannot ban and handle the case and I have given example above) or they abused power (in that case will be removed if there are evidences to support that claim, since we don't punish someone only cause player says stuff but is not able to prove it and on our logs everything is fine) or they have misused power or treated the banned user wrongly due to personal reasons or similar.
However, none of that happened until now in the case you mentioned.
Or, if it happened, then 10 different admins (Red, Arkos, Sugar, Mage, Eaty/Walross, Shaolan/Cames, Fluffles, Xylos, me-Shinohara and Logan) from 2018 until today are totally unaware of it and I invite you to properly report it.
Please, read as well the link I passed in the second part of the post HERE (Written by Shinohara) and HERE (written by Walross) cause they are important and address things that I didn't repeat just to avoid a 30 kilometre post.
Kind regards,
- Keita
You are doing the same thing Qeight does when he wants to avoid answering questions. You talk about the players issues.
I am a player, not a staff. You can punish me all you want. However, when a staff break the rules, what do you guys do? If you like them, you defend them.
I'm not the only one who thinks Qeight doesn't deserve to be staff.
Taking bullet points I sent in a random discord out of context is easy to use against me. The bullets points are harsher and vague because they are for me to understand. You told me many times what happens outside of PRO platforms should be ignored. Interesting that you are bringing it here now. I see your plan.
About eliminating the staff, I'm not sure how stupid you think I am to take me serious on that one. I don't like Qeight, yes, I want him out. About you, yes, I think you are blind. I don't think you are a bad person, but you hate to be wrong. And I think that's a bad thing for an admin. Ignoring the majority of the players concern just so you can pretend to be right and play god with Qeight and the other staff hungry for power.
About Wally, I respect him. I don't agree with his impulse of doing everything on his own without discussing with the rest of the team. I was staff and I know this happened many times. If you deny it, its lost case. I give up. Other than that, I think Wally is a great dev.
Also, when you talked to Teerav about my "onlyfans", which I don't even have (it's actually patreon), I didn't even have it. You saw a random pic of mine that was sent in MY discord, leaked to another discord that you were in, and you already jumped to the conclusion I had Onlyfans and talked to HIM about how to deal with it, and not me. I appreciate that you were worried or whatever you wanna say, but in the chat with HIM you said how much you don't care about what I do, so being worried makes no [hecking] sense. You contradict yourself a lot. And I still don't get why not talk to ME about something that concerns ME? It simply doesn't make sense. Lemonie talked to ME about it, not Teerav.
But anyway, somehow, you turned this about me. We aren't talking about me. I am simply a player that does not represent staff in any way. Qeight is a staff with 2 roles. Spawn Editor and GM. GMs have a big impact in the image of a game. Its legit called Game Master. Someone with poor behavior representing staff... why does that sound familiar? Oh wait! Reminds me the reason I got kicked from staff! Interesting how this doesn't happen to the GM, but the most active artist can get fucked! I love your logic. How do you not want me to feel like you are bias? If Q8 is allowed to call players idiot and legit have 70% of the community not respect him as staff because of HIS OWN ACTIONS, and I can be banned simply because I was annoying INSIDE PRO staff discord? Players didn't even noticed me. This just shows you guys don't care about how the players feel, but how staff feels.
Sadly, I am not in mentioned discords anymore to show you the screenshots. But I'm pretty sure @teeravand @Smooge have evidence. If they have the balls to get involved and risk getting their accounts banned, well... I appreciate. I already know how bad staff wants me to be permabanned. But, I'm not scared. That will just prove the dictatorship isn't just something I created in my mind.
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The rule that is being violated:
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