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  1. There has been much debate if it is fine in gen 9 ou/nat dex, was even banned for a period of time before being reversed so not sure how you are able to support this. Kyurem also exists in gen 9 where you are able to run certain tera types to out position kyurem and land an unexpected kill. These are not buffs they are simply the updated gen 9 learn sets, eventually everything will be in the game but that does not fall under what the PvP team is responsible for. When new mons get new tools to beat what was once counters there win rates are typically reflected. The main counter to kyurem in the last 4 years was bulky waters but with the addition of freeze dry it is able to circumvent this. Again as part of the PvP team we are not responsible for what is released and the speed of its release. New tms are coming with the PvP chests, but other mons that gained moves through level up change or tms that are already existing in the game. Some examples are dual wingbeat salamence or sludge wave greninja. To address your second point yes its not out of the ordinary for mons to stand out during these temporary "pocket metas" but when they become extremely over bearing in kyurems case having ~65% wr with sub roost set and having a 70%+ wr with specs this is an outlier which we look to address. Also just because something is banned temporarily does not exclude it from returning in the future when more is released. Are implying blastoise/kyurem are on the same level as annihilape or slowking and those also need to be banned? Please elaborate if so because the impacts these mons have are far less than blastoise/greninja/kyurem. Pro has a completely different environment and meta than smogon tiers. And this unnecessary problem you keep referencing is due to mechanic updates which would have to come eventually since that is the current direction the game wants to go towards. You want every new piece of content dropped immediately,(everything missing from 7 through 9) but this is simply not possible.
  2. @Ducmanhuong let me know when i can pick up
  3. PRO Set Viability Tier List By Aggs, Cyanirl, Jorogumo, and Pisforpenguin Welcome to the Set Viability Tier List. This resources ranks the common sets for each of the Pokémon found currently on the VR Thread. Please note these are not the only sets each of these Pokémon may run, however this can be considered a guide for new players helping them find useful sets for certain mons. Also take in consideration that the best set for every mon will not be the best for every team, for example if you just pull the best ranked set for the 6 mons you want to play you may not end up with a functional team. You may also find yourself in places when teambuilding where you need a set that is not listed on our rankings and that is also perfectly fine, do not feel pressured to use only ranked set. We encourage feedback from the community and if you feel any important sets are missing please feel free to mention them in this thread. S Rank: S Rank Clefable Magic Guard Calm Mind: S Stealth Rock: S Unaware Calm Mind: A+ Unaware Cleric: A+ Offensive: A Kyurem SubRoost: S Choice Specs: A Landorus-T Choice Scarf: S Defensive Stealth Rock: S Offensive Stealth Rock: S Dual Dance: A Suicide Lead: A A Rank: A+ Rank Aegislash Offensive: A+ Sub Toxic: A Swords Dance: A- Lopunny-Mega Offensive: A+ Mawile-Mega Swords Dance: A+ All-Out Attacker: A SubPunch: B+ Serperior Substitute: A+ Utility: A+ Choice Scarf: A- Screens: B+ Tornadus-T Assault Vest: A+ Z-move: A+ Rocky Helmet: A Offensive: A- A Rank Bisharp Eviolite: A Black Glasses: B+ Pursuit: B+ Diancie-Mega All-Out Attacker: A Offensive Stealth Rock: A Substitute Endeavor: B+ Dragonite Flynium Z Dragon Dance: A Choice Band: B+ Ferrothorn Utility: A Garchomp Offensive: A Offensive Stealth Rock: A Physically Defensive: A Choice Scarf: B+ Heatran Offensive: A Specially Defensive: A Choice Scarf: B+ Keldeo Choice Specs: A Choice Scarf: A- Calm Mind: B+ Metagross-Mega All-Out Attacker: A Offensive Stealth Rock: A- Rock Polish: B+ Tangrowth Physically Defensive: A Specially Defensive: A Zapdos Physically Defensive: A Offensive: B+ Specially Defensive: B+ A- Rank Alakazam-Mega Offensive: A- Annihilape Bulk Up: A- Choice Scarf: B Azumarill Assault Vest: A- Choice Band: A- Z-Belly Drum: B+ Perish Trapper: B- Charizard-Mega-Y Offensive: A- Excadrill Z-Move Sand Rush: A- Suicide Lead: B+ Choice Scarf: B Specially Defensive: B Gliscor Stallbreaker: A- Utility: B Hoopa-U Choice Band: A- Choice Specs: B+ Nasty Plot: B+ Assault Vest: B Choice Scarf: B Kyurem-B Icium Z: A- Choice Scarf: B Choice Band: B- Offensive: B- Manaphy Waterium Z: A- Rain Dance: B+ Medicham-Mega Offensive: A- Ninetales-Alola Aurora Veil: A- Rotom-Wash Physically Defensive: A- Offensive: B Scizor-Mega Defensive: A- Offensive: B+ Defog: B Slowking Specially Defensive: A- Thundurus Offensive: A- Utility: B+ Victini Choice Band: A- Choice Scarf: A- Z-Celebrate: B+ Volcarona Offensive: A- Swarm: A- Defensive: B B Rank: B+ Rank Amoonguss Defensive: B+ Assault Vest: B- Blacephalon Choice Scarf: B+ Choice Specs: B Calm Mind: B- Chansey Utility: B+ Charizard-Mega-X Offensive: B+ Defensive: B Greninja Choice Scarf: B+ Z-Move: B+ Suicide Lead: B- Jirachi Choice Scarf: B+ Specially Defensive: B Z-Happy Hour: B- Kommo-o Kommonium Z: B+ Belly Drum: B Specially Defensive: B Dragon Dance: B- Latias Offensive: B+ Choice Scarf: B Latias-Mega Utility: B+ Calm Mind: B Latios Choice Scarf: B+ Choice Specs: B+ Offensive: B+ Magnezone Choice Scarf: B+ Choice Specs: B+ Z-Move: B- Pelipper Defensive: B+ Choice Scarf: B Choice Specs: B Sableye-Mega Utility: B+ Calm Mind: B- Slowbro Utility: B+ Calm Mind: B Swampert-Mega Offensive: B+ Offensive Stealth Rock: B+ Tyranitar Choice Band: B+ Assault Vest: B Choice Scarf: B Utility: B- Weavile Choice Band: B+ Swords Dance: B- B Rank Alomomola Defensive: B Gyarados-Mega Offensive: B Hippowdon Defensive: B Hydreigon Choice Scarf: B Choice Specs: B Offensive: B Latios-Mega Offensive: B Mew Stallbreaker: B Utility: B- Offensive: C+ Suicide Lead: C+ Skarmory Physically Defensive: B Suicune Substitute Calm Mind: B Defensive: B- Thundurus-T Agility: B Nasty Plot: B Dual Dance: B- Tyranitar-Mega Offensive: B Utility: B- Venusaur-Mega Defensive: B Offensive: B- Volcanion Choice Specs: B Defensive Utility: B Choice Scarf: B- B- Rank Altaria-Mega Physically Defensive: B- Physically Offensive: C+ Utility: C+ Specially Offensive: C Breloom Offensive: B- Poison Heal: C Crawdaunt Choice Band: B- Offensive: C Gastrodon Specially Defensive: B- Heracross-Mega Offensive: B- Kingdra Choice Specs: B- Porygon-Z Z-Conversion: B- Pinsir-Mega Offensive: B- Reuniclus Calm Mind: B- Dual Dance: C Trick Room: C Ribombee Sticky Web: B- C Rank: C+ Rank Alakazam Focus Sash: C+ Offensive: C Diggersby Offensive: C+ Choice Band: C Choice Scarf: C Ditto Choice Scarf: C+ Gallade-Mega Offensive: C+ Defensive: C Mamowsine Offensive: C+ Choice Band: C Suicide Lead: C- Manectric-Mega Offensive: C+ Quagsire Physically Defensive: C+ Scizor Choice Band: C+ Offensive: C Togekiss Stallbreaker: C+ Choice Scarf: C- C Rank Cloyster Shell Smash: C Conkeldurr Guts: C Assault Vest: C- Sheer Force: C- Cresselia Trick Room: C Utility: C- Gardevoir-Mega Offensive: C Gyarados Flynium Z: C Hawlucha Offensive: C Marowak-Alola Offensive: C Mimikyu Offensive: C Slowbro-Mega Calm Mind: C Physically Defensive: C Torkoal Physically Defensive: C Venusaur Offensive: C C- Rank Aerodactyl-Mega Offensive: C- Pursuit: C- Azelf Suicide: C- Blissey Calm Mind: C- Defensive: C- Cofagrigus Physically Defensive: C- Trick Room: C- Garchomp-Mega All-Out Attacker: C- Swords Dance: C- Infernape Suicide Lead: C- Jellicent Physically Defensive: C- Klefki Screens: C- Specially Defensive: C- Mantine Defensive: C- Muk-Alola Assault Vest: C- Nidoking Offensive: C- Pidgeot-Mega Offensive: C- Stallbreaker: C- Porygon2 Defensive: C- Trick Room: C- Seismitoad Defensive: C- Starmie Offensive: C- Defensive: C- Tentacruel Defensive: C- Uxie Trick Room: C-
  4. This is an example post Please format any constructive posts in a similar manner, feel free to steal this formatting if you wish. Blacephalon B+ > A- Blacephaplon is one of the premiere fire types in the current meta. It boasts incredible offensive STAB combo in ghost/fire backed by an amazing ability in beast boost. At a base 107 speed it is one of the most potent scarfers we currently have most notably being faster than most rain teams outside of kingdra in rain. Often after netting a single kill and gaining a boost most teams are forced to revenge kill with some sort of priority or Blacephalon can just often sweep games. With access to trick it is also able to cripple one of its best counters in chansey. The scarf set in particular is often able to force great progress on more offensive teams being able to 2hko most things before the boost. 252 SpA Blacephalon Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Keldeo: 160-189 (49.5 - 58.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252 SpA Blacephalon Flamethrower vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Zapdos: 180-213 (46.9 - 55.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery 252 SpA Blacephalon Flamethrower vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Zapdos: 127-151 (33.1 - 39.4%) -- 16% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252 SpA Blacephalon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Clefable: 219-258 (55.5 - 65.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 252 SpA Blacephalon Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Clefable: 178-211 (45.1 - 53.5%) -- 2% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 252 SpA Blacephalon Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Garchomp: 168-198 (47 - 55.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252 SpA Blacephalon Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 168-198 (40 - 47.1%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252 SpA Blacephalon Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tornadus-Therian: 160-189 (53.5 - 63.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 SpA Blacephalon Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Tornadus-Therian: 120-142 (33.1 - 39.2%) -- 17.6% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252 SpA Blacephalon Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Heatran: 139-165 (43 - 51%) -- 52.3% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery As you can see most of the top mons which one could consider switch ins are either cleanly 2HKOd or extremely close meaning if a boost is ever given this mon becomes extremely dangerous. It also shares a role with zard-y in being the strongest offensive fire type in the current meta, however it is able to trade off the drawback of holding a mega stone and either boaster its extremely high speed with a choice scarf or extremely high special attack with a choice specs giving it a unique place away from zard-y.
  5. Cant wait to see everybody on the ladder
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