Thejollypear Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 278180 Thank you bruh If I ever come against you in pvp, spare me width=400pxhttps://i.imgur.com/9pNePO2.png[/img] Server: Silver width=234pxhttps://i.imgur.com/0Zly8nz.png[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymerod Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 278015 They should just ban Shadow Tag already. There is a reason why it's banned in other pokemon communities. And in PRO you don't even know your opponent's team before battle start unless you specifically know the player. the mechanic is the same as magnet pull or arena trap. The problem with Gothitelle isnt shadow tag its calm mind. Guides: Hoenn Excavation Sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LiquidSnakeK Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 That's actually a pretty fair argument as I see most people complaining about shadow tag instead. However calm mind isn't banned in PRO. Shadow Tag is banned in literally almost every other Serious Pokemon PVP community, as well as swagger. Yet neither are banned in PRO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinsmiter Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 278198 278015 They should just ban Shadow Tag already. There is a reason why it's banned in other pokemon communities. And in PRO you don't even know your opponent's team before battle start unless you specifically know the player. the mechanic is the same as magnet pull or arena trap. The problem with Gothitelle isnt shadow tag its calm mind. Yes the mechanic is similar but it's not the same. No one is using Arena Trap because there is no good pokemon with that move. It doesn't trap flying/levitate users either. Magnet Pull is the same mechanic in a way and is very powerful and also very used. However it's for 1 type and it's pretty much the reason anyone uses Magnezone. It's very specific unlike Gothitelle who brainlessly destroys anything lacking damage and sometimes the rest of the team after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymerod Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 278213 That's actually a pretty fair argument as I see most people complaining about shadow tag instead. However calm mind isn't banned in PRO. Shadow Tag is banned in literally almost every other Serious Pokemon PVP community, as well as swagger. Yet neither are banned in PRO. Calm mind is fine. Banning it would weaken too many pokemons. Try to think outside of the box. If a rule can be "shadow tag is banned" the rule could also be "pokemons with a trapping ability arent allowed to run boosting moves" 278481 ... Yes the mechanic is similar but it's not the same. No one is using Arena Trap because there is no good pokemon with that move. It doesn't trap flying/levitate users either. Magnet Pull is the same mechanic in a way and is very powerful and also very used. However it's for 1 type and it's pretty much the reason anyone uses Magnezone. It's very specific unlike Gothitelle who brainlessly destroys anything lacking damage and sometimes the rest of the team after that. dont spread false informations. Arena trap is not coded therefore noone is using dugtrio. If magnezone with magnet pull is very specific, gothitelle with shadow tag is too. The amount of pokemons it can trap is limited by its own stats and typing! Magnezone has a weaker version of shadow tag because it already has the best defensive typing. And the no-brain thing is because of calm mind. Calm mind makes Rest a reliable recovery because at +2 gothitelle doesnt care about the 2 sleep turns. So gothitelle gets to +6, than uses rest, waits 2 turns, kills the other pokemon while remaining 95% hp. gothitelle with chestorest and taunt does the same job as calm mind gothitelle (against haze milotic, calm mind slowbro or once it works unaware clefable even better) but will never be able to sweep a complete team. Imo that state would be comparable to magnezone's which is completely fine. Guides: Hoenn Excavation Sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinsmiter Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 278647 278213 That's actually a pretty fair argument as I see most people complaining about shadow tag instead. However calm mind isn't banned in PRO. Shadow Tag is banned in literally almost every other Serious Pokemon PVP community, as well as swagger. Yet neither are banned in PRO. Calm mind is fine. Banning it would weaken too many pokemons. Try to think outside of the box. If a rule can be "shadow tag is banned" the rule could also be "pokemons with a trapping ability arent allowed to run boosting moves" 278481 ... Yes the mechanic is similar but it's not the same. No one is using Arena Trap because there is no good pokemon with that move. It doesn't trap flying/levitate users either. Magnet Pull is the same mechanic in a way and is very powerful and also very used. However it's for 1 type and it's pretty much the reason anyone uses Magnezone. It's very specific unlike Gothitelle who brainlessly destroys anything lacking damage and sometimes the rest of the team after that. dont spread false informations. Arena trap is not coded therefore noone is using dugtrio. If magnezone with magnet pull is very specific, gothitelle with shadow tag is too. The amount of pokemons it can trap is limited by its own stats and typing! Magnezone has a weaker version of shadow tag because it already has the best defensive typing. And the no-brain thing is because of calm mind. Calm mind makes Rest a reliable recovery because at +2 gothitelle doesnt care about the 2 sleep turns. So gothitelle gets to +6, than uses rest, waits 2 turns, kills the other pokemon while remaining 95% hp. gothitelle with chestorest and taunt does the same job as calm mind gothitelle (against haze milotic, calm mind slowbro or once it works unaware clefable even better) but will never be able to sweep a complete team. Imo that state would be comparable to magnezone's which is completely fine. I'm not spreading any false information. I'm talking about various pokemon communities. And Dugtrio is not considered a powerful pokemon. And how is Steel only as specific as anything but ghost? Lol. Limited by it's own stat and typing? So? So you think it's fine because it cannot brainlessly 1 on 1 a Crawdaunt. Your point proves nothing. And claiming that Magnezone has a weak Shadow Tag because of its typing is pure [Profanity edited out by Pixiu. Please be sure to watch the language]. Unless you got evidence that you worked for Game Freak when they made the ability your allegation is empty air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LiquidSnakeK Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 I'm not spreading any false information. I'm talking about various pokemon communities. And Dugtrio is not considered a powerful pokemon. And how is Steel only as specific as anything but ghost? Lol. Limited by it's own stat and typing? So? So you think it's fine because it cannot brainlessly 1 on 1 a Crawdaunt. Your point proves nothing. And claiming that Magnezone has a weak Shadow Tag because of its typing is pure [Profanity edited out by Pixiu. Please be sure to watch the language]. Unless you got evidence that you worked for Game Freak when they made the ability your allegation is empty air. Soo uh. Magnezone is in fact a weak version of shadow tag because it functions the EXACT SAME WAY. It only traps steel types however, which is why its a weaker version. Whereas shadow tag traps all pokes period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Zinsmiter Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 278774 I'm not spreading any false information. I'm talking about various pokemon communities. And Dugtrio is not considered a powerful pokemon. And how is Steel only as specific as anything but ghost? Lol. Limited by it's own stat and typing? So? So you think it's fine because it cannot brainlessly 1 on 1 a Crawdaunt. Your point proves nothing. And claiming that Magnezone has a weak Shadow Tag because of its typing is pure bs. Unless you got evidence that you worked for Game Freak when they made the ability your allegation is empty air. Soo uh. Magnezone is in fact a weak version of shadow tag because it functions the EXACT SAME WAY. It only traps steel types however, which is why its a weaker version. Whereas shadow tag traps all pokes period. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out.. Looks like you can't read or understand what you're writing yourself. If magnezone with magnet pull is very specific, gothitelle with shadow tag is too Indeed it doesn't take a genius to figure it out. Guess you're not in that category though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard29 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 i suggest you put toxic to your poke with that if boost much will almost killed and if boost little is not so difficult to defeat. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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