Patisaur Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 So in Sun and Moon, these will be the nerfs and buffs of each pokemon. Not sure if PRO will implement these but its fun to speculate. NERFS Talonflame The biggest nerf, gale wings only works with full hp now. Acrobatics only? or roost up, rocks is scariest thing now. Gengar Ability changed from levitate to cursed body. Huge nerf as well, grants an extra weakness. Use to be just mold breaker ground moves. BUFFS Flygon Gets Dragon Dance Torkoal Gets Drought Pelipper Gets Drizzle, stab hurricane 100%, stab scald. Vanilluxe Gets Snow Warning, stab blizzard 100% Stat buffs: Arbok +10 ATK Dugtrio +20 ATK Farfetchd +25 ATK Dodrio +10 SPE Electrode +10 SPE Noctowl +10 SPA Ariados +10 SPDEF Qwilfish +10 DEF Marcargo+10 HP, +10 SPA Corsola +10 HP, +10 DEF, +10 SPDEF Mantine +20 HP Swellow +25 SPA Pelipper +10 SPA Masquerain +20 SPA, +20 SPE (Always wanted him to get a buff) Delcatty +20 SPE Volbeat +25 DEF, +10 SPDEF (Pretty happy about this prankster encore dude) Illumise +25 DEF, +10 SPDEF Lunatone +20 HP Solrock +20 HP Chimecho +10 HP, +10 DEF, +10 SPDEF Woobat +10 HP Crustle +10 ATK Beartic +20 ATK Cryogonal +10 HP +20 DEF (Also gets new ability Slush Rush) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tro11z Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Maybe not have your title have such a super spoiler name and warn people instead :Ambivalent: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SugarRed9 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 The gengar and gale wings nerf are huge!! Excited for flygon to get dragon dance <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr3y Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 These nerfs are awful and it shouldn't be in PRO's best interest to implement these whatsoever. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patisaur Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 Edit: Removed Errors Stamina Boosts the Defense stat when hit by an attack. Wimp Out The Pokémon cowardly switches out when its HP becomes half or less. Emergency Exit The Pokémon, sensing danger, switches out when its HP becomes half or less. Water Compaction Boosts the Pokémon’s Defense stat sharply when hit by a Water-type move. Merciless The Pokémon’s attacks become critical hits if the target is poisoned. Shields Down When its HP becomes half or less, the Pokémon’s shell breaks and it becomes aggressive. Stakeout Doubles the damage dealt to the target’s replacement if the target switches out. Water Bubble Lowers the power of Fire-type moves done to the Pokémon and prevents the Pokémon from getting a burn. Steelworker Powers up Steel-type moves. Berserk Boosts the Pokémon’s Sp. Atk stat when it takes a hit that causes its HP to become half or less. Slush Rush Boosts the Pokémon’s Speed stat in a hailstorm. Long Reach The Pokémon uses its moves without making contact with the target. Liquid Voice All sound-based moves become Water-type moves. Triage Gives priority to a healing move. Galvanize Normal-type moves become Electric-type moves.The power of those moves is boosted a little. Surge Surfer Doubles the Pokémon’s Speed stat on Electric Terrain. Schooling When it has a lot of HP, the Pokémon forms a powerful school. It stops schooling when its HP is low. Disguise Once per battle, the shroud that covers the Pokémon can protect it from an attack. Battle Bond Defeating an opposing Pokémon strengthens the Pokémon’s bond with its Trainer, and it becomes Ash-Greninja. Water Shuriken gets more powerful. Power Construct Other Cells gather to aid when its HP becomes half or less. Then the Pokémon changes its form to Complete Forme. Corrosion The Pokémon can poison the target even if it’s a Steel or Poison type. Comatose It’s always drowsing and will never wake up. It can attack without waking up. Queenly Majesty Its majesty pressures the opposing Pokémon, making it unable to attack using priority moves. Innards Out Damages the attacker landing the finishing hit by the amount equal to its last HP. Dancer When another Pokémon uses a dance move, it can use a dance move following it regardless\nof its Speed. Battery Powers up ally Pokémon’s special moves. Fluffy Halves the damage taken from moves that make direct contact, but doubles that of Fire-type moves. Dazzling Surprises the opposing Pokémon, making it unable to attack using priority moves. Soul-Heart Boosts its Sp. Atk stat every time a Pokémon faints. Tangling Hair Contact with the Pokémon lowers the attacker’s Speed stat. Receiver The Pokémon copies the Ability of a defeated ally. Power of Alchemy The Pokémon copies the Ability of a defeated ally. Beast Boost The Pokémon boosts its most proficient stat each time it knocks out a Pokémon. RKS System Changes the Pokémon’s type to match the memory disc it holds. Electric Surge Turns the ground into Electric Terrain when the Pokémon enters a battle. Psychic Surge Turns the ground into Psychic Terrain when the Pokémon enters a battle. Misty Surge Turns the ground into Misty Terrain when the Pokémon enters a battle. Grassy Surge Turns the ground into Grassy Terrain when the Pokémon enters a battle. Full Metal Body Prevents other Pokémon’s moves or Abilities from lowering the Pokémon’s stats. Shadow Shield Reduces the amount of damage the Pokémon takes while its HP is full. Prism Armor Reduces the power of super effective attacks taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LiquidSnakeK Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 303749 These nerfs are awful and it shouldn't be in PRO's best interest to implement these whatsoever. lol I disagree. The Gengar nerf? Pretty silly. But the talonflame nerf? Justified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royalism Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Ohhh interesting! If Talonflame gets nerfed that changes our meta quite a bit on making it a sweeper against sandstorm teams :Shy: As for the gengar that would force a lot of ground speed based pokemon moves so thats also quite damaging x_x... guess I need to change my team set up again :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlight Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Gengar losing Levitate is hilarious It's like the AI of this game already predicted it, hence NPCs always using EQ on our Gengar Primarina's HA sounds (lol) useless since based on description alone, it seems to not boost the power of those moves, just changing their type...... What's the point in having STAB Hyper Voice when you have STAB Surf lol. Pretty much the only difference is that Hyper Voice doesn't hit teammate, meaning its only use is in Double Battle. I forgot what was the name of the IRC channel that Kaphotics used for talks regarding datamining, if I remember I would've go there and asked him about whether the ability boost power or not...... 303750 Wimp Out The Pokémon cowardly switches out when its HP becomes half or less. Emergency Exit The Pokémon, sensing danger, switches out when its HP becomes half or less. Wimp Out, as we already knew, belongs to Wimpod. Guess who has Emergency Exit? ITS EVOLUTION. They basically gives it the same ability, just under new name........what was the point of that awesome-looking evolution if it's still a wimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr3y Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 303754 303749 These nerfs are awful and it shouldn't be in PRO's best interest to implement these whatsoever. lol I disagree. The Gengar nerf? Pretty silly. But the talonflame nerf? Justified. If the Talonflame nerf was anything it wasn't justified lol. It was pretty unnecessary and ruined a great mon. I could see if Talonflame was broken but it's anything but that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patisaur Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 i think s&m is trying to make ice/hail teams viable, especially since all these hail buffs as well as alolan ice forms such as sandslash and ninetales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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