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ya, then please elaborate it? :) is it to hard for you? brings up smogon? we play PRO not SHOWDOWN please ... you can bring up smogon when we have all Moves, and PvP stuff available your comment base on hatred pal, it just like a litle kid yapping arround. Im done with you pal.

WOW do you have any problem with me? so much hate it your comment pal. mind to elaborate which part of my arguments are stupid? ya the spot can be claim anytime, but can you claim it? I've never said "the only way to deal with slowbro is pursuit and choice items" please don't make things up. and please read everything before you giving an useless comment like this.

Not gonna happen, it took much more effort to counter them rather than using them simple logic common sense can't agree more :y:

whats the deal with those quotes? from those long reply, this is the only point you can make? you don't even get the sarcastic tone there. seriously dude whats the deal? throw insult and now this? :)) I don't have any problem with stall team, i only give my though about Regenerator. Regenerator Slowbro are OP and easily abused in PRO, in other POKEMON game you can easily deal with regen slowbro with any Sweeper who held Lifeorb or you can trap him with pursuit THAT'S THE FACT. Here in PRO you must narrow that wide option into some RARE & EXTREMELY RARE pokes just to deal with it? while slowbro only a COMMON poke? REALLY? yet, still no guarantee that you can shut it down since its not 1v1 and REGENERATOR EASILY ABUSED here ^^ In other hand, H.a Gothitelle solve these problem, and makes the PvP less boring without a very very long match with switch master SLOWBRO. And that's might be the main reason people start using gothitelle, you may ask those gothitelle user. And this makes most stall team get salty for sure ^^ My last question for everyone who want Gothitelle to get BANNED form ladder, even if we agree to BAN h.a gothitelle in Ladder, will you people agree to ban h.a slowbro also? because, what i can see you hate sadowtag being abused because it rekt your core A.K.A slowbro, but you dont care with other people problem as long as you can freely abuse REGENERATOR.

Re: WINTER SET & XMASS STANTLER MOUNT (LIMITED EDITION) <t>BAMPERINOUZ~</t>

I don't understand pvp in PRO I don't know what i'am talking about Yet, i'am at TOP RED ladder, ok :))

I have balance team and i dont have any serious trouble dealing with goth. Your team not fully prepared then? (same old reason with everyone else) Not all defensive for sure, please be creative (everyone excuse to defend their statement) Yet it's still better since goth are extremely rare tier, while slowbro are common tier. Need to be balance? but all you do from previous post are supporting stall team? haha Oh yeah, a good build team also can destroy goth (proven alrd with my team, never lose to goth) Nope, they are simply overpower as stall because we lack of PvP core items I don't suggest brellom when tons of talon are around ^^

Re: WINTER SET & XMASS STANTLER MOUNT (LIMITED EDITION) <t>BAMPERINOZZ</t>

I don't run any h.a GOTHITELLE or h.a SLOWBRO in my team, you can ask people who do PvP in red sever I found out that dealing with h.a GOTHITELLE are easier and less boring than dealing with h.a SLOWBRO, or at least it doesnt wasting so much time just for a single match. I also can say "just run a pokemon with knock off blah.. blah.. blah.. to counter GOTHITELLE" or "Be creative and blah.. blah.. blah.." and then ignore any reason given just like most of did you when people complaining about REGENERATOR, but its 'easier to said than done' right? There someone give a solution to ban h.a GOTHITELLE but you must also ban h.a SLOWBRO, yet you don't even consider this idea right? because it will mess your stall team formation? you can't even play stall without REGENERATOR slowbro right? The next step is you keep bringing up SMOGON rules blah... blah.. blah.. It's not SHOWDOWN, its not normal POKEMON game where every ability, move & items are available for PvP. So please if you doesnt have any experience in PRO PvP you better not giving a comment based on another POKEMON GAME. I don't mind h.a GOTHITELLE get banned from PvP as long as the staff do something about REGENERATOR slowbro either by adding ORB & CHOICE or also banning it from PvP

Try read the whole post from page 1 because i dont want to explain the same thing all over again

How often? sorry to say this but it seems you really have no idea about whats going on in PRO ranking PvP.

Gothitelle solved the stall problem thats the fact for now, and the staff can simply fix this stall problem by adding more PvP core items. PRO always been stall meta from the 1st day i start playing it, but now it even worse since REGENERATOR works make stall team even stronger since slowbro can be a very strong pivot. I have no problem with stall team since they can be countered, but not for REGENERATOR SLOWBRO because we dont have enough power and working move to put it down easily like in POKEMON SHOWDOWN. And Gothitelle are the answer for it trap Slowbro so he cant abused REGENERATOR anymore. And base on my own experience in PvP, when slowbro down most of the stall team cant do much anymore, and the game will end soon, which is proof how OP REGENERATOR in PRO. have you really tried PvP in Pro?

11/10 its shiny karp

No, you missed the main point of my argument. I never say they are unbeatable or anything, and maybe i am not creative enough but still i am on top ladder ^^ the main point is its annoying to face that kind of stall team because it took a lot of time and effort just to bring one core down. have you ever in a match when your only poke who can deal a lot of dmg to slowbro alrd dead, when you still have 4/5 pokes alive and opponent only have REGENERATOR slowbro + bliisey/ferro and they keep switch without any meaning even though their team 100% lose. And yet it took so much time to bring them down because they keep recover its called TIME WASTING. I alrd comment about mew you might want to read it again, i have jolly 31 atk weavile it cant 2hko slowbro with Knockoff. Bisharp cant 1hko slowbro without SD boost, in that case you will prefer have lum berry instead of black glasses since he still can 1hko slowbro as long as it has SD and to protect ur self from twave. yes tyra maybe can do that, but again i will need to have proper sand team or else i cast sand stream for nothing except to hurt my own team with the chip dmg, so i should rework my whole team to fit with tyra just to beat a slowbro?

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Here the solution: For staff please just make ORB & CHOICE item works, it will solve the stall problem, and then you can ban shadowtag ability from ladder. Everyone will be happy, no more time will be wasted for discussing the same thing over and over again. So, we can move on. That is the main purpose of this thread right?

Well thats funny, since right nw I always see the same pokemons in PvP a.k.a slowbro, blissey & other stall, why dont you even comment about them? and even if its will be always tyra and scyther in the future, i still think thats better than current meta which is VERY VERY BORING LONG MATCH. Agree, but i don't think the other will because you know... :))

Re: WINTER SET & XMASS STANTLER MOUNT (LIMITED EDITION) <t>UP UP</t>

seriously dude, have you really try it in PRO? because all you do is you count it with dmg calculator where all of those pokemon are PERFECT, its not pokemon showdown dude. and seriously who wanna hold dark glasses instead of lum berry for them? also, those knock off dmg you count is with item held and is that adamant weavile? I think you don't understand what i mean by double edge sword. Everyone know that kind of taunt mew are slot waster in team for pro meta, because sableye can do way better and sableye are very hard to get. And for nasty plot mew ofcourse you need at least a decent mew or else it wont really usefull in competitive scene. and you only think the scenario when you only fight Slowbro + Blissey, you dont think other factor from their teammates its 6v6 afterall. the whole point is if even a dark type like weavile and bisharp cant event 2hko slowbro there is almost no way to kill it if he still able to switch out.

he said "i dont like riding pets" i think its a pretty neat idea, maybe something more like rollerblade

well i dont think so, most of them packed with Scizor & Machamp and have you really try it? because un-bossted weavile & bisharp cant even 2HKO slowbro, Tyranitar will be double edge sword without sand team, not everyone have decent mew, blissey can wall togekiss, and Breloom doesnt sound promising with alot of talon around. gothitelle is the answer to shut the slowbro and broke the whole team since they cant stall with regen anymore.

in some point i agree with you, but i prefer fight vs Abused h.a gotithelle rather than fight abused h.a slowbro + blissey & defogger. at least vs h.a gothitelle wont waste so much time in rating pvp & will reduce slowbro abuser in ladder :))

happen to me several times, gladly it doesnt change the game result, also i want to add that 'Knock Off' also miss sometime

I agree with TS, some some of my friend quit because they get a very trash legendary and some fail to catch them because server very unstable a while back. I think we should have system that make it possible to re catch those legendaries, so those people who have very fail legendaries or those who fail to catch them have their chance to catch another. You can make a point system like Steel Coins in order to do the quest or simply pay some ammount of Poke$ to start the quest (it will be a good money sink). nah, it will never break PvP because they are not even an UBER tier pokemon. If everyone have a chance to get a decent legendaries pvp will be mroe balance, if you do pvp alot you will realize some people who got epic mew / celebi have a very big adavantage in PvP current meta which makes PvP more unbalance when only few people got the epic legendaries.