Shewas18

Trying to punish people with such bad play as switching a nc cure mon weak to venu , and switching it out to "deal" with pownder"s sleep status , and so instantly pm the opponent to whine when you got read of , and punished just after, playing around rule&how badly this is coded shouldn't be tried on me at some point , since you'r not the first one trying this on me , also that probably explain why you didn't showed our early conversation aswll .

Bump , caught a cancer while updating all thoose ss ,untrained ones are missing, too lazy :Shy:

Tbh , It's not because you are looking at the opposite way ,faking you not seeing it yet when there are solid proof doesn't means the problem is nonexistant . That appart a CC relaying the problem to the"higher floor" would be a starting point to give us a bit of hope (Yet we all know if this thread h"v been ignored for so long ,it's not going to change anytimes soon, and we clearly understood that fact ) ,i mean by that at least someone related to the staff answering the thread , the problem might been already reported, but we got no intel at all , w'r just leaved in the dark . If volontary ignoring that issue , is a way of telling us making HP's dommage right is an hard task , well i'v never touched coding stuff , and this isn't my job aswell , and i got no clue how an ahrd task it can be , but being honest with us admiting you being aware of it , plus/or telling us it being low in the priority list when you got a sparce time to spare , would be much more appreciated than being totally ignored , aka it's called communicating . (The lack of communication killed a ton of online game , pro's one was so-so for a longtime , even tho recently it's starting to change , but you got enough selfawarness to know that w/o me saying it) PS: I know im straigthforward trought all my speech , and im aware of it,resulting to most of the staff or pridy guy hating me ig, but hypocrisy is probably the thing i hate the most and by far , well , being honest isn't a given thing to everyone .

Because PRO"s "lategame" is all about pvping, more or less like every mmo game . Anyway the lack of team preview tend people to run heavy bulky team(Sand Semi-Stall /lol) , add to that the abyssal lvl overall , you got a poor metagame , while the poor environnement doesn't help as well (too much thing arn't coded "yet") . Transitionning ,In the first place idkwhy you are arguing that badly about teampreview , it's not going to be coded/implemented anytimes soon ,and it's unlikely staff/shane isn't aware of it missing (we could debate as well how poorly pvp related thing , also the investment are taken so lighty , and the reasonning behind it too{moove,sash,etc & etc}). Playing with&w:o teampreview are two different games ,there some games where i could'v played better ,or stoping myself from doing unpredicted missplays , wich one i would'v probably never done with the team preview . In SHORT , on pro you are too much severly punished by not predicting the unpredicable ,and it's damn too rough and kind of explain why H.O Klefki doublescreen is so strong atm , you know it's h.o ,you know aswell it's going to setup behind screens , but you don't know WHAT ,and the game can be over turn 3 without you knowing .

Well even tho we reported VoltUrn not working as intended , im not posting again for that , but at least can we have the possibility of using thoose moove when we got only one pokemon left/alive ?

I sware i don't want to see Manaphy ,give us shaymin or heatran instead rolf (if idkup pass by, even tho we got totally different opinions about some stuffs, we both should be arguebly able to say manaphy would be herebly broken in pro w:o choice items) , and for god sake a forfeit button (well i'm having fun bming like a kid since i got myself bmed by a trash player , note that recently i went switching back and forth clefable&wrath and spam rest/t-wave/sr/whatever useless mooves on a support starmie until he was out of pp), this isn't breaking rules by keres's logic ,but yeah i was purposly stalling time;why would i end a game when i can lengthen it for 70more turns ? :boot: And all i got for argumentation from him was a "Sigh ,this isn't breaking rules deal with it" and a copy pasta from rules about spamming moove=/=stalling time .There a way out , alt+f4 and get a 45min penality . :y:

Im legit a scald spammer ,i even once did not burn a skarmory after 16scald ,meanwhile i can't deny hax's odds are quite weird in pro, but scald's rate is ok .

Is it going to be implemented anytimes soon ? Since bming is legit (yeah keres said bming by using the same moove,when you already won=/=time wasting (such a logic rolf, he wasn't doing that to waste my time in purpose, na he wasn't im sure of that) , and leaving a match gives you a 45min penality ,yeah just experienced a guy having fun clicking curse , same for rest ,obviously not using sleeptalk until he himself runs out of PP ,so gotta watch him for 20straight minutes bming,or either leave and so taking the restriction . Well playing me in ladder wasn't funny in the first place, let's use t-wave/cm/rest(well all of them max ppuped ofc <3,let's be childish as him) the same way he did is going to be even more funny . I hope you don't meet me in ladder ,hf . Edit:7. Time stalling is forbidden. (Time stalling =/= stalling, using repetitive moves is allowed) I deduct by that clicking 20+ ish time thunder-wave in a row and softboil sometimes when i need to on an harmless threat with a +6 clefable on his last pokemon is totally allowed ,it's not considered time stalling either ,keres's logic there this is what he copypasted to me Ingame after this childish guy wasted 20minutes of my real time doing his shit on my poliwrath .

I'll be short ,Im' paying well , searching for a better one ,

Steven could be teaching iron tail or either flash cannon :(, even both :Light:

Bump :Light:

Re: PRO Viability Rankings (PVP) v0.95.9 <r><QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE> Top 30/25 is full of dice&co(wich got finally unbanned <3) alt ,hitting top 30 in ubber isn't an insurmountable task ,and me winning UU's room tour with an RU scyther-xatu team mean i'm a god ?Or room tour are and always been irrevelant<QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE> Every data i leaked was from ~1k7 to the top ,and nowhere the tier as a whole .<QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE> Nothing new , laddering before 1k6 in anytier is all about stomping bad people .<br/> <br/> . <QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE> And yet it has Never been used once during spl 5&6 (even electric and figthing were used rolf),and one time during the eight edition .(Still week 3)If you got faith for uber's open and less important one go ahead . <QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE> Yeah speak of thing you are aware of, and recent Uber's metagame is definitly something you don't know about . You lightned that point yourself <QUOTE><s> </e></QUOTE><QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE>If you were honest to yourself, pro lvl overall is the same of any 1k-1k2 SD"s ladder player ,you are pretty much able to setup anything in pro while i don't know how bisharp and daunt are reaching +2 aswell if im listenning to this . i.e it doesn't exist ,at all .<QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE>Me,tr3y,rey and more ?<QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE> Saying M-mence is an awfull p-don check is probably one of the most dumbest(yeah huge grammar mistake there aka superlative to help ppl understand )commentary you can give about the uber tier tbh,<br/> and Me being ignorant or not doesn't change the fact, datawise mence is one of the most used answer to pdon over 1k7~1k8 rating , that aside you not playing ORAS meta and SUMO aswell is quite obvious ...<br/> *<br/> Edit:If you want w'r free to debate if m-mence is an awfull sd less p-don set check whenever you want on sd, i'll gadly participate ,and tho stop being off-topic on PRO's forum</r>

Lance Could tech Outrage as well imo .(legit npc background)

Re: PRO Viability Rankings (PVP) v0.95.9 <r><QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE>Most common used defogger are some kind of p-don checks .meanwhile <br/> 6 | Salamence-Mega | 22.76181% | 87880 | 13.509% | 52780 | 12.487%<br/> 11 | Zygarde | 15.52786% | 79302 | 12.191% | 54152 | 12.812%<br/> 12 | Arceus-Water | 14.08012% | 29118 | 4.476% | 20002 | 4.732% | <br/> 14 | Giratina-Origin | 12.97521% | 38577 | 5.930% | 25388 | 6.007% |<br/> 21 | Arceus-Fairy | 7.69787% | 13060 | 2.008% | 9228 | 2.183% |<br/> 64 | Arceus-Dragon | 1.22215% | 4892 | 0.752% | 3178 | 0.752% | <br/> Dragon form check p-don aswell im not denying it, yet over 1k7 it's almost never used ,even tho waterceus as trouble checking SD-don ,it's just better overall(new toys like z-gem arceus-ground you know ) , fairy is clearly meant to help checking yvetal (magerna is more runned than arceus-fairy aswell for yvetal(and xern) and w'r starting to see heatwave more and more on yvetal<QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE><QUOTE><s> </e></QUOTE>I doubt you are even voiced in the first place, "In Gen 7, Zygarde can't learn these moves" and so "In Gen 7, Salamence can learn these moves" Roostall stone edge ,and precipice doesn't even 2hko ,don't even need to add the atqdrop .<br/> And both spread are kind of outdated because of the aerilate nerf ,boost to mega and the proeminance of M-Luc in the actual meta to handle both xean/m-gengar/arceus-fairy and crush stall (and 0hko pdon a+2,or just 2hko it)<QUOTE><s> </e></QUOTE>If you even played uber recently there a ton of new core handling both of them ,without having p-don being parashuffler<br/> Thunder Wave 14.654% (Other 19.137%hp ice/toxic) <QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE>Like he cares (hp ice p-don is for the swag) -><br/> Groudon-Primal <br/> Checks and Counters :<br/> Zygarde 68.384 (75.80±1.86) |<br/> | (17.0% KOed / 58.8% switched out)| <br/> Salamence-Mega 61.569 (70.56±2.25) |<br/> | (31.2% KOed / 39.4% switched out) <QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE>Psyshock 3hko at best and pyschic is never runned <QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE>Phazing moove was never meant for sweeping ,weavile&bisharp both get ohked. <QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE>:O u'r right i wasn't even paying attention tbh,but still :<br/> +2 252 Atk Life Orb Excadrill Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 248+ Def Vaporeon: 430-508 (92.6 - 109.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock<br/> +2 252 Atk Life Orb Excadrill Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Milotic: 364-430 (92.3 - 109.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock<br/> +2 252 Atk Life Orb Excadrill Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 244+ Def Gastrodon: 403-476 (94.6 - 111.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock<br/> +2 252 Atk Life Orb Excadrill Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 232+ Def Slowbro: 298-352 (75.6 - 89.3%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock<br/> +2 252 Atk Life Orb Excadrill Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Blastoise: 316-372 (87.2 - 102.7%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock<br/> +2 252 Atk Life Orb Excadrill Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Jellicent: 394-464 (97.5 - 114.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock<br/> +1 252 Atk Life Orb Excadrill Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gyarados: 276-325 (70 - 82.4%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock<br/> +2 252 Atk Life Orb Excadrill Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Politoed: 378-446 (98.6 - 116.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock<br/> +2 252 Atk Life Orb Excadrill Earthquake vs. 240 HP / 252+ Def Swampert: 337-398 (84 - 99.2%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock<br/> <IMG src="https://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/164764yX3ygoM.png"><s></e></IMG><QUOTE author="SheWas18"><s> </e></QUOTE> <QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE>both doesn't check knock of at +2 ,dragontail miss clefable and kiss .<QUOTE><s> </e></QUOTE> "i don't care and i ignored it anyway " <QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE> Cm slowbro straight loose to toxic goth ,half the meta is free switch for clefable , and for clefable and lo destroying semi-stall , yet half the red serveur is full of semi-stall, and you gotta learn teambuilding as well .<br/> <QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE> Yeah that is all<br/> Edit: <QUOTE author="SheWas18"><s> </e></QUOTE>All thoose data are from the highest elo , i"m just copypasting datas, nothing else, but still showing howmuch bullshit u'r saying<br/> Edit 2:I heard what you said, you are pretty much against the idea of poliwrath being worth to be runned, and it's starting to be off-topic ,anyway im done debating and you obviously not played once poliwrath to have an unbiased opinion , poliwrath got ranked , you being unhappy with it isn't my concern , have a good day .</r>

Re: PRO Viability Rankings (PVP) v0.95.9 <r><QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE> I'v been part uber/ag community for years but thanks to you i learned something new , people way of handling hazards in sumo's meta are mence,exca,waterceus,darkceus,gira ,(wait wait waterceus and mence ?)and therefore there are more hp ice pdon running around than stone edge ones and SD less variants can't even touch mence and are simply setup bait,and had to mention no one played parashuffler since longtime ago ,whereas zygard-c is straight better now for doing this job . (speak of thing you are aware of, thanks )<QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE> Yes,well nothing appart from psyshic even 2hko,and tbolt is much worse than toxic<QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE> No<QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE> No aswell . <QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE> +2 252+ Atk Life Orb Excadrill Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro: 324-382 (82.2 - 96.9%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth .<br/> +2 252+ Atk Life Orb Excadrill Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gastrodon: 438-516 (102.8 - 121.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO <br/> +2 252+ Atk Life Orb Excadrill Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Blastoise: 344-407 (95 - 112.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock<br/> +2 252+ Atk Life Orb Excadrill Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Milotic: 402-473 (102 - 120%) -- guaranteed OHKO<br/> +1 252+ Atk Life Orb Excadrill Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gyarados: 302-356 (76.6 - 90.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock<br/> +2 252+ Atk Life Orb Excadrill Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Jellicent: 430-508 (106.4 - 125.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO<br/> +2 252+ Atk Life Orb Excadrill Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Politoed: 415-489 (108.3 - 127.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO<br/> +2 252+ Atk Life Orb Excadrill Earthquake vs. 240 HP / 252+ Def Swampert: 370-437 (92.2 - 108.9%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock<br/> +2 252+ Atk Life Orb Excadrill Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Vaporeon: 472-555 (101.7 - 119.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO<br/> cune is30ish % getting ohked,bar waterceus and rotom-w (even a shittyd m-stoise's spread fully invested in hp and def is ohked with sand and sr,fishing for a flinch is also a possible way to pass through tom and ceus )everything "bulky water" just faint to exca , <br/> you see i am aswell cable of copypasting some calcs , you may correct me if i'm wrong , but almost no one play ada exca and leaking calc of an ada lo+2 exca is irrevalent as ,since almost nothing walls it properly with a bit of hax/prior damage/hazards<QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE> momentum killer=/=stabbed phazing abillity. <QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE> Remodling arguments i gaved to ask for a ranking in the first place , to discredit it later on ,when i actually pointed thoose out sounds lame ;you basiclly change the interpration of words to make them your side thus counter-argumentating whith pointing thoose flows ."hey don't rank it up too high, it has somehow no reliable recovery " "but you know it has no reliable recovery so it sucks" Rolf .(i have shorten but his post is about that kind of thing )<QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE>Wrong again , balance ?(you probably never seen one during ORAS OU, or even in pro for obvious reasons ) anyways isn't pro full of semi-stall teams ?<br/> Edit: Dunno if you noticed ,the rank i asked for was lower than bulky water having acces to a reliable recovery except jellycent, because of his knock of's weakness while taking wrath"s niche of checking the abondancy of LO knock off users .</r>

Re: PRO Viability Rankings (PVP) v0.95.9 <r><QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE>Because Mence or Waterceus are just better ?<br/> None of them actually like being crippled by a status,wrath isn't trapped by goth either(meaning not being a setupbait for everything else aswell),his fighting typing and phazing abillity provide much more than others bulky water .Im not going to argue about wich one are better than others , but wrath is anti-meta , yet he dislikes tflamme and azu(being seen less than before,while tflamme is everywhere as always) , but being able to switch all day long into boosted knock off (daunt,bisharp,scizor,weavile) is a thing other water mon dislikes,while clefable/blissey/ferro being everywhere and possibly are answers people are using the most to fat,tempo loss watermon , being phazed on the switch ,and also checking opponnent"s team is another appealing point .(why does it sound like im repeating myself, tbh you probably skipped/ignored every argument i gaved earlier, to just refute because it's me) Don't missunderstand ,im not saying wrath is better than slowbro overall , but metawise , atm it's the case (imo) .<QUOTE author="TR3Y"><s> </e></QUOTE> way too long , way too much .<br/> Edit: You can stick to your blissey/growth/slowbro team , there no reason for me to actually give "pocket" mon wich are breaking the meta, when i could keep them , pro meta is probablly the sadest one ever seen , if leaking such mon can "help" introducing new thing ,and so kind of"restrain" playing against all thoose mirrored team such as bisharp and sand team , why not . People are adapting since the addiction of recently codded new usable contents ,same for u-turn on tflame despite the moove being legit sh it in his current state , Poliwrath pretty much answer everything new and even older scary thing , you are free to think the opposite . Have a nice day .</r>

Re: PRO Viability Rankings (PVP) v0.95.9 <r><QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE> Im playing poliwrath, and it' 5-6hked at best by lo bisharp , i mean by that , getting flinched to death and cannot press rest or circle throw once . Have you ever double switched once ?</r>

Re: PRO Viability Rankings (PVP) v0.95.9 <r><QUOTE author="HiddenAbility"><s> </e></QUOTE>Don't run flamehtrow at all ,cm t-wave wreck the meta, it rules the meta atm , And unless you are running healbell, getting your team heavly cripped by paralysis is a big deal (Twave nerf&paralysis status Gen VI->VII) <QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE>And a red bird , aka the most runned pokemon on Pro .<br/> .<br/> Edit: Im still nominating poliwrath to at least B+ , what it walls , or either the amount pokemon not being able to lay a fingers on it is pretty amazing ; not asking for more ,i'm aware sleeptalk mechanics sometimes aren't that much reliable ,same for circle throw"s accuracy . It's sturdy as slowbro ,you basiclly switch his weakness to daunt&bisharp&weavile for talonflamme in short ,and have a better matchup against stall ,doesn't get trapped by goth ,grants a water (scald) immunity,absorb status trought sleeptalk ,spread burn ,phaze so helping for the lack of teampreview .<br/> Edit 2: If you want a full list of what this thing is capable to handle ,i might write it later</r>

Re: PRO Viability Rankings (PVP) v0.95.9 <r><QUOTE author="HiddenAbility"><s> </e></QUOTE> Clefa definitly deserves his S rank , and t-wave is t-wave . I could write an essai why thunder-wave is much better than flamehtrow even knowing exca or magnezone is going to switch-in ,but in short decreasing your overall matchup against the whole meta-game to actually handle clefa's dedicated counter with an "okayish" way is too much , well you gotta choose to deal with steels or almost the whole meta-game ?(i mean by that once scizor/exca/zone are dead,t-wave clefa wins against pretty much everything else ... tfl....cough you gonna nead a ton of paraflinch there) Meanwhile choice items and poison/steel coverage are subscribed missings make clefa standing out even more. <QUOTE author="HiddenAbility"><s> </e></QUOTE> I doubt Blaziken should rise that much, even with protect being implemented , you are probably going to do a 1 for 1 the majority of time (at best) ,Sand&Tflamme is ruling the meta ,recoil is too much ,you pretty much have to scout ennemy team before trying to start a swipe (yeye team preview thing ) ,sure blaziken is a scary thing, running sd also mean you are going to miss some coverage (if you are asking for such a raise ,protect might be the reason) and even at +2 you are walled by others overused pokemon , you are still frail as t-flamme but missing GW priority , meanwhile the current metagame is too much hostile for blaziken and have no need to adapt for the freshly reborned one .<QUOTE author="HiddenAbility"><s> </e></QUOTE>Hello my name is tflamme or dragonite .<QUOTE author="HiddenAbility"><s> </e></QUOTE> I have to agree Bisharp is borderline beetwin s and a+ tho . <QUOTE author="HiddenAbility"><s> </e></QUOTE> No focus blast , is much more a problem you could actually guess (Missing focus blast is more an issue than not being pursuit trapped by weavile , and kind of explain why Ttar sand team is rulling the meta) , Sure LO implentation is a good thing for gengar tho .</r>

What about croagunk :d?

Re: PRO Viability Rankings (PVP) v0.95.9 <t>It's probably the best thing you can pair with clefa imo , this core is pretty self-efficient , few pokemons are annoying , but are kind of ok to cover .(bird,zone,poison) only one set is viable tho , scald/circle throw/restalk self-explanatory phazer set , and checks 80-90% of the meta paired with clefa .(don't run flamehtrow )</t>

Re: PRO Viability Rankings (PVP) v0.95.9 <r><QUOTE author="idkup"><s> </e></QUOTE>Eelektross is clearly viable on the current meta . Poliwrath should be ranked aswell , at least B+</r>

You should'v been able to put yourself into that group of people ,you and few others being legit honest about staff related opinion, doesn't mean other weren't exactly doing what i wrote earlier, (and we both know saying the contrary would be lying , could put few well-known names and tarnish their "reputation" of samaritans boys , my discord pm history is filled with a ton of bashing and their true opinion ) .I myself never hidden my opinion about that same subject , i even made it pretty clear in the eyes of everyone , meanwhile my speech never changed in front of ppl or either behind their back it was always the same , also ,might be a reason why so much people approched me giving their opinion .(true one i mean and not half asset one they had given in "public" well almost public) About Entei's case it's almost impossible to run anything else ( roar probably ) since everything fancy/worth bing runned isn"t avaible ,and Daeon's statement about that was very clear .

Are you implying mestre sucks ? well known fact tho , and it's not coming from my mouth ;someone else dared to say it on forum :y: or the sentence was for someone like me ? Would you bring Entei in ranked excepting showing off ,with a set off Sfire, bite,toxic,facade ? While you can have a different speech based where you are speaking is quite hypocritical , one of the reasons i leaved Blaze , being doggys to the staff , and bashing them on discord all day longs , and you were wearing aswell a kind of "elitist" coat , w'r god ,the rest is trash , but yeah in the first place most of you weren't that near being just good imo. (ain't a generalized opinion , some people were actually good, honest and respectfull )

There you go You should be able to quote yourself the list of players participating, it ended being almost empty of experienced one .(did kagawa answer got really deleted, lol)