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decent shadow slowpoke v2 (closed )
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decent shadow slowpoke v2 (closed )
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the winner is blunder124 with offer 5m -
decent shadow slowpoke v2 (closed )
Vangogsan replied to Vangogsan's topic in Shiny and Special Pokémon - Gold
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decent shadow slowpoke v2 (closed )
Vangogsan replied to Vangogsan's topic in Shiny and Special Pokémon - Gold
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decent shadow slowpoke v2 (closed )
Vangogsan replied to Vangogsan's topic in Shiny and Special Pokémon - Gold
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decent shadow slowpoke v2 (closed )
Vangogsan replied to Vangogsan's topic in Shiny and Special Pokémon - Gold
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decent shadow slowpoke v2 (closed )
Vangogsan replied to Vangogsan's topic in Shiny and Special Pokémon - Gold
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decent shadow slowpoke v2 (closed )
Vangogsan replied to Vangogsan's topic in Shiny and Special Pokémon - Gold
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decent shadow slowpoke v2 (closed )
Vangogsan replied to Vangogsan's topic in Shiny and Special Pokémon - Gold
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decent shadow slowpoke v2 (closed )
Vangogsan replied to Vangogsan's topic in Shiny and Special Pokémon - Gold
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decent shadow slowpoke v2 (closed )
Vangogsan replied to Vangogsan's topic in Shiny and Special Pokémon - Gold
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decent shadow slowpoke v2 (closed )
Vangogsan replied to Vangogsan's topic in Shiny and Special Pokémon - Gold
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Start Point: The auction start at 25.01.2025 - 20:00 Bulgarian time and will last 24h Price: Start offer is 400k Min. Raise: 50k Insta price: 5 m End Point: The auction end at 26.01.2025 at 20:00 Bulgarian time. If a bid is received in the final 15 minutes of the auction, the end point will be delayed by 15 minutes from that bid, and will be delayed by 15 minutes for each new bid thereafter, until the current offer has been held for a full 15 minutes. Must be accurate to the minute that the auction is set to end. Accepted Payment(s): cash only In game will be update the time left. Thank you for your time .
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To open such topic you have to understand the few things about it : As few times was explained to you this is fun game made. To bring something new that have any impact in the game people must have time to make it, since there are not many people you see the process is a bit slower but people who love this game can take that . Next words i will speak are as neutral side so you dont get this personal or offended. I told you some history here and some facts that you still reject so i will point few things to backup my words . First this game is called pokemon revolution online not money revolution online . Thats because its obvioly the point of the game is to collect pokemons - not cash , and those pokemons to end up used in PvP. So we hunt ( grind ) for it day and night to get the best possible . So here we have 2 options : to do it by ourselfs or to buy them. Because 70% of the players are busy irl, dont like that aspect of the game and etc they want to buy them and we start one of the aspects of using money. The second one is obviosly to prepare your pokemons for use- lvl , ev and move set witch need cash too. So cash is just instrument that goals to be acheeved. Ofc they added shiny and forms to atract those that grind for them just to brag with it- we have planty of them. This is the main circle - so your game play here is to grind and use them for pvp . And is mentioned to be the game passed some periods , we got new generations of pokemons , new legendary pokemons , mega stones, z crystals and so on. This process lead to few things : 1 - market lvl become high - you hardly can find better than what you have into your pc and , so every epic pokemon worth more money 2 - money become less, because i mentioned before people spend it stupidly buying bad pokemons , forms , or clothes 3 - many things become cheaper because players have lot of them as orbs , choice items and so on We had some stuffs to help preparing pokemons for PvP to be easy . Rewards at bcc fc helps to collect rare candies so you dont need to spend money , also for top 1-15 you can get pretty usable things and save money from preparation. Dundeons came with easy way to get rr because you had to wait someone to sell or just collect pvp coins and get it alone . So at some point they nerf them and make them locked, because the main reason was to help preparing legendarys , but people start sold them and that affects their price, the price of prestige mounth and everything that can be bouth with pvp coins . Many new events that main reason was to give all the best way to get some meta pokemons cheap . That part here is the half of what leads to your topic and the problems in game ( there are some, but not awful as you think ) The second half are the players - most complaining why they get bad luck , rng , less money , less fun. Almost 60% of the new players beg, because is easy to just get free cash instead of doing whats its must - play and grind . For the guy that coplained avout mega and z crystals and similar to him i will tell few things : all can be get if you have any intention to use it , every new player have the same outcome with pvp if he dont know what he is doing there ( my first season was 1 win and 99 loses ). 80 % of the new players are lazy to read, find ,listnen or search for any answer why they lost his games - did they lack of pvp info, is his team weak, what mistakes they did. 70% want someone to guide them while they are playing because they want to "learn" pvp . Sadly that is not working and they quit because is too hard. This kind of mentality is similar to those who hunt , they look what the others get and they end up unhappy with what they got . So gathering all you have the current situation ( good for the new players ofc ) - cheap pokemons , cheap rr, many forms , cheap rare candies, ways with some gring to get what you need. Those as you that probably have enough are not satisfited because hardly get any new. Those that are new have many things to learn and get from the game, but many quit because its needed to spend some time and effort. Thats why i call them crying , because whatever you have is not enough. Because all want to get it the easy way , fast and to be good . Sadly the game is not working that way. About the solution - how to get out of this : -upcoming pvp update to get fresh new things for sell or collecting -new regions and pokemons trully will help those who feel the market is stuck to rock it up, but at the end we will end in the same situation, simply because the game is suppose to be that way. But ofc that require money and people to be done. -i posted some suggestions in the forum , so you can check them. - new tournaments of pvp that may come at some point too. And last - i call it crying cuz many love to complain - less to work for it. The coin always have 2 sides- you are the opposite that i look. For those that want something easy, maybe this game is not for them. For those who wants to face challange , you came at the right place. After all the game have to be played little smart, so you can do your stuffs and have fun, the odds are 50-50 if you dont give up. If you push enough long you will get what you want . Its like irl - you will recive what you made it yourself . If you spend reclessly your money , everything will be cheap, if you play it smart you will have all that you need . You pointed everything that the game is duying or how less money people play, and i enjoy doing all here because simply im here just to kill time, be competative and get good OT pokemons , and talk with very good people that i met here. End
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"The price has not dropped because the economy is good, but because the vast majority of the active player base already has these items " - its something that will happen at some point with anything here . And yes, some items you have higher price but you still can buy them with pvp - pve coins,so you can save money from it . "About the bosses, Bccs and "profitable" activities (but which you spend money to do them kkakakak) "- you cant catch psyduck, diglet, magnemite, after story you can get pancham and cottone and find one clampearl, then you need to do them and invest a bit for moves . If that task is much for a new player - idk what he is doing in grind based game .... Oh btw i bet if you do it yourself the total price will be like 400k investment ( less price that 90% of the players give to wear cosmetics ) and gane be returned in 1-2 boss runs . "About events and services.... Massive grind, and put massiveness into it! I, Jhonvga, have already done several shiny hunts for rare Pokemon and I guarantee you that it is not healthy and hunting gets frustrating " - i hunt 80% of my time in game, sometimes i dont end with anything, but i dont look what other gets , i dont get frustrated cuz i dotn have any expectations, im here to have fun. Hunting require to not be greedy and wanting all good stuffs for yourself, but to select some area and put some time. ( cuz we are here to waste it anyway ). With this kind of logic you can end irl the same way and get depressed . (btw also something that every player can pick ) "Regarding everything else, you seem quite satisfied with the current situation of the game, you turn around and say that it's normal for a boss-only farm to give you 3m in 3-4m, it's just a joke.... it seems like a joke and a bit crazy read this. Regarding consistent pvp teams, I would like you to show me a competitive pokemon team with prints of the pokemons if you can really assemble them with 3m, I think you are wrong. If you are really going to do this, show the efficiency of this team in practice. "- im happy that at least something in this game ( situation make it good for you, that will stops the crying about everything in the game that you dont like , cuz clearly we saw you dont like to do bosses because you see them less profit able, lvl and ev service, pvp and dungeons cuz you said you dont like them) . Now about for well working team that is accessable for everyone . You can replace zapdos with rotom or skamory https://pokepast.es/208480248c1fe227 and garchopm with hippo. To make and use good team you need to have idea how to build good team and spend some time hunthing them . Im not good example of good team builder but i can name 5 people who can do the job and can make cool and well working teams . "The economy is bad YES, and apparently I'm the only one who has the guts in this game to come and tell some truths, since most of the time the complaints are either ignored or answered with "go play another game" "no one forces you to play " That's why the player base is small, some people (not all), if you want, they'll take the trouble to help new players, but that's a topic for another time. But in short, the community itself has great responsibility for the current situation of the game, we are all part of this."- the economy looks as its should be of this etap of the game. And if you cant understand that every aspect matter and build it ( large number decent pokemons and pvp items , 60% of the players who dont pvp because they have no idea or 0 interest in it and care only for forms and shiny , rich and poor people , people that save cash and those who spend everything on useles things ) your topic looks just like crying how everything here is hard and unfair . Btw i bet that is not mentioned - many players were banned cuz they used bots or they cheat in pvp , so to talk for player base and how many stayed here you should think about that too. "Now about the last topic pvp and money. Seriously, I don't think you bother to read the answer in other posts, but in short the PvP may not be very good, but it's already improved a lot! Regarding money management, any player (in my opinion) must have the power to do what they want with their money in game, knowing that they can earn it quickly at any time! In the pro it's not like that, it's almost like managing real money, if you spend it, you run out and you can only buy something next month, that's ridiculous... and I don't have any problem with money in game, the real problem is how quickly the money leaves our account and how slow and painful it is to recover this amount! "- i will mention it for last time, if player spend their money stupid , its their problem, thats why here we have pokemons that worth millions and pokemons that worth as they should atm, every player want something better that will works in next 2-5 years , so they are ready to spend what they think is fair . And those who spend all look from side. You have many guides for story , mega stones , legendary quest that can give you info about how to make them without to buy service or any. If you hunt and dont sell your sruffs your money wont vanish and you will have less to spend for. Every dungeon give you chance for rr so even to make usable legend cost less. Its all strtegy and how people play their game. About the last part - every player can think what they want, but to say something is good or bad you have to put all the things that matters and here first matter what they do and how they do . If you try to open a door with your head you will brake it , if you just pull it you will pass easly . I tried to help many players giving them cash , pokemons and everything needed, and my observations are that all want everything with less effort . And even if they make money they still dont run them smart and buy stupid things that have no use further . You cant blame the game because you play it stupid . Im here enough long to say that. Last because i wont answer further on this topic because i hate to argue with people who look always the negative on the game, i will repeat myself - if you want the game to be cool for you- make it Run guild, do events ,help the people to be better ,become staff and do the things that are delayed , but dont complain how the game is bad or how is unfair and you feel frustration. With small talk you wont change anything . Im not able to be part of the staff team cuz simply i dont find myself good for that and i dont have the time, but i do what i can to help those who work for it ( as try my best to guide and help my guild mates and donate cash to exist the game ). I was there when servers last 15 mins and i had to wait 2-3 houts to play the game in the old red, blue and later yellow servers , before every mega evolution , before z crystals, before dungeons and every event that you play and wait. Before rr to be 500k . Peace !!!
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i will repeat : you can get life orb, toxic orb, flame orb from bcc or boss battles ( while you spend time doing them) assault vest , rocky helmet or any other item from excavations ( while doing them ) choice items from item recycle ( if you stack items and you dont use them ) In 2017 i had to pay for choise items 160k per peace, now some worth 80k ( price dropped ) in 2017 i had to pay for orbs 80k per peace ( now are 30-20 k per ) ========================================== Doing bcc daily is like doing 1 boss per day , so you can math how much you can get from it at the end of the month Since you are limited to do bosses , i do mine that way - every week all bosses per region - so you can trace and make money every week ========================================= About events - farming good forms , rare forms , epic pokes allow you to make easy cash, my gf got epic mudkip and sold it easy for 7m ( if you complain that are cheap money idk what to say ) Also you can provide service since exp share so you can do your stuff cheaper and make money from that kind ======================================== About dungeons - if you dont like them that is personal your opinion, but that doesnt mean is not good thing, from them you can easy hunt for rare poke witch can be used in pvp, or get shadow form and make good cash and last the pvp aspect : Since this game is grind orientated game its normal people to search alway for better pokes ( since they have something already ) and wanting to be replaced. So those who are lazy to hunt and rule his money wize are whiling to pay more for something epic. What leads that to : decent pokemons for pvp goes cheaper and cheaper you can buy full rdy pvp team for less than 3m ( money that you can earn for like 3-4 months only doing bosses and no other activity ) Cheap boss teams so its very naturaly the game to be as it is atm ( cheap ) , because we need new pokemons , witch need time to be made because the game is fun made. People that do this are limited with time and other stuffs . If you want really to make something apply for staff member and do something, other way your topic is just crying at the dust I will give few examples of the 80 % of the new players coming here : Note 80 % of the players came here beg for money- they just sit in vermi and spam to everyone that enter the pc 90% of the players care what they wear than what they have in his pc - they make some cash and start buying stupid clothes or cosmetics , and then cry in all chat because they are poor 60% of those who joined any guild do not add anyhing so they are fast kicked after 3-4 months Bad managment of his money leads to be poor and not able to buy what they want - those are the facts , and if you call yourself old player you should understand that And lets not forget the math : 5 months of ladder are 13-15m from items 1-3 top place with some in bccor fc luck are 1-6m from cosmetics , not mentioning that you can save from buying rare candies, safari or train pass service - if you are good doing ev and lvl up , you can make millions in days , some people / guilds are ready to pay 80-90k per poke just to be done fast, also you can have spot in any good / top guild if you are correct with what you do hunting - every meta pokemon that have good nature, stats , abillity is good cash , not mentioning form or shiny - can give you good money ( but if the players were smart they wont sold his best mons) bosses- 20-40k per poke is solid 300-500k per month other activitys - Battle bot, solosean news reporter - can save you cash from some things you might need Oh and btw , you have pve coins that you can buy all mentioned its expensive for you from the pve coins shop So lets not blame the others for our own mistakes. If you want something - work for it ( apply in irl too) If pvp seems bad for you , teach players with out of meta teams and change it if you lack of money - rule your cash better if you see something that is not good or want to add something good - they post mountly that search staff members I made over 20 topics with suggestions , some denied some wait, and i understand that if you want to make something you should have 2 things - time and people that work for it . I was leader and i put a lot to make good communety , competative guild , im happy cuz i met people that are dedicated and chill and we going good, it was not easy but i did what is the best of me to make the game alive. And still do my best to make it better . You cant blame the others when you [heck] your panties.
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As player like you i can disagree with you. Since my first acc is made in 2015 i know what was back there. Mention economy: 1 - there is guidance for almost everything in game, every player with some brain will do story on all regions for like 3 days if you play smart. You can buy story Pokémon under 40k . With good management of your money you can end with something in like 4-6 days (bike + fs ,sync Pokémon and etc) and you can start early bosses. 2- All the pvp items are way cheaper than the price back then. Also in almost every decent shop you can buy PvP Pokémon for small money . You can buy very usable Pokémon under 300k, some even PvP made. 3 - you have 2-3 times more events than in 2015 , you can hunt for forms, pvp Pokémon's and sell them. Also many events give opportunity to earn pve coins with you can turn into cash 4 - dungeons. They help a lot with rr and other stuffs About PvP If you have the experience to speak for that kind of matter, im sure you know how to break the meta and put your work into something creative,fun and well working, so you can have fun vs every copy ( stall and whatever you mentioned above). Or to start guild and make new generation of players that can think out of the box. At the end - ofc everything can be improved but let's not blame the game for our lack of creativity. You can have fun playing many ways, (be part of PvP guild or pve)do many things (lead guild, help players,do dungeons, make events)and put some effort in it. Or just join the beggars part of the community (because we all love them)
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the winner is Krucify with 900k offer
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Start Point: The auction start at 18.01.2025 - 15:00 Bulgarian time and will last 24h Price: Start offer is 400k Min. Raise: 50k Insta price: 5 m End Point: The auction end at 19.01.2025 at 15:00 Bulgarian time. If a bid is received in the final 15 minutes of the auction, the end point will be delayed by 15 minutes from that bid, and will be delayed by 15 minutes for each new bid thereafter, until the current offer has been held for a full 15 minutes. Must be accurate to the minute that the auction is set to end. Accepted Payment(s): cash only In game will be update the time left. Thank you for your time .
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I posted ss into your shop instead of mine