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Honestly i dont even know what to expect of this meta with aurora veil in the game, manaphy becomes an even bigger threat and once megas come, mons like mega gyarados, zard x and mega ttar for exmaple will make the meta crumble, with no safety pivots such as lando t or reliable haze users like pex and fini, it seems to me the meta is gonna have a big time dealing with this unless you play either one of the extreme sides of the spectrum, offensive or defensive. alolan wak is a cool addition, tr might actually become a thing and without some reliable pivots such as lando-t i can see it being a big threat, then again no cress means its hard to pull it off, since audino is the next best thing.

 

Also gengar lv100, imagine setting up to +6 with you blissey and then they reveal the heart swap manaphy lmao, not even sure if thats coded but that wouldve been hilarious.

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"It is strong, not broken but facing it countless times every month/pvp session is just a joke."

We believe that obviously it does cause frustration but so does Chansey, Blissey, Clefable, (old Talonflame) and and and, we can't ban something just because it is annoying to play against. The same reason why would not ban stall or stall Pokemon. It is fairly common to call for bans because the Pokemon in itself is frustrating to deal with but if your team is prepared you can beat it, same goes for rain teams. You have to adapt to the metagame to succeed.

 

 

Imo cant compare mon like chansey and blissey with talon and mana since mana and talon are able to beat their "counterplay" easily especially manaphy

Also curious to know if staff who made the decision that mana+rain arent broken actually play the game ? x)

in other hand most of player that give feedbacks of how broken is that comp pvp everyday

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Hey Guys,

 

I dont wanna start the discussion again. But note follow facts.

 

1. Manahpy is one of the Best OU Poke - correct.

It has Tail Glow, good Moveset, good Speedbasis and a good ability in Rain.

 

2. It is Tier OU and not Uber - correct

 

3. We have a OU- Tier - correct

 

My Fazit:

Manaphy dont need a ban. But when u battle Manaphy be careful.

U can start a discussion for all OU Pokes. But it won't Change anything.

 

Manaphy isen't broken it is only very good. But Batonpass is broken. It is more dangeriuos as all OU Poke. It is a Uber-Ability and we can use! :D That is a theme for a good discussion ^^.

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Pls dont force other discussions that have nothing to do with the main theme of this thread, i encourage a community to be more engaging in promoting a better pvp scene, but if you want that to happen then make your own thread, dont use a thread talking about manaphy for it.

 

Thank you.

I personaly think manaphy deserve a ban, he's ou in a hyper quickly and strong meta. There just no way to contain same in pro and on my opinion he can break some team archetype too easely. There a lot of powerfull revenge killer in ou thats manaphy fear but manaphy base speed makes a lot more sense in pro. So i think its too strong actualy and rarity is not a reason for not doing anything.

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You're completely right. You don't have to look further than the top of the pvp leaderboard. Oh weird! They all have shiny great IVS manaphys that they received as private awards.

Hmm.. i wonder why they keep winning!

So strange..

 

It's completely broken. Remove manaphy from pvp

 

Edit: hmm the only people that seem to be defending manaphy in pvp are the people who have built their entire team around it. Weirddddd

I just played a PVP match vs a terrible opponent. HE had the cheesiest team. Speed boost scoliopede ( countered ) ferrothorn (countered) chansey (countered)

Then i got to his shiny manaphy.. all it took was 1 failed toxic and he was able to set up and sweep. Absolute garbage to give players this advantage and not let other players have a chance to acquire the same thing. These players shouldnt be getting free wins because theywere in the right place at the right time.

You're completely right. You don't have to look further than the top of the pvp leaderboard. Oh weird! They all have shiny great IVS manaphys that they received as private awards.

Hmm.. i wonder why they keep winning!

So strange..

 

It's completely broken. Remove manaphy from pvp

There is one Shiny Manaphy with good stats on Gold Server, the summer tournament winner.

There is one Shiny Manaphy with good stats on Silver Server, the summer tournament winner.

Both haven't played in a good while.

 

Make your points with facts not with some unnecessary made up things to stir the pot otherwise I will delete those comments and warn people who do this kind of stuff.

There are also no "private rewards", shiny/perfect Pokemon are rewards for 1) Tournament winners or b) 6 months of staff work, you know the work that keeps this game running

 

Also since you are playing on Silver, I checked the last 5 matches of everyone in the Top25 at the moment. Only 8 players used Manaphy, more players used Azumarill, Weavile, Ferrothorn or Garchomp.

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