Not banning the ability Arena Trap as a whole but the Pokes with the ability that belong in Uber

[Cooleracc]

Trapinch would then be playable and not banned for no reason.

[Cooleracc]

push

[G3n3r4l]

Trapinch isn't banned, just it's one of it's abilities are. Besides, sheer force trapinch is better in every way, so just as an overall end, -1. It just makes no sense not to.

The pokes with the ability are UBER because if that ability. You think dugtrio is too powerful for OU so it was banned?

[Cooleracc]

just the ability doesnt make it uber, trapinch with that ability never would reach uber level but ok. in real pokemon trapinch doesnt reach uber so wouldnt it in pro. the point u try to make is trapinch would be too broken for the game with this ability this is just not true lol

[G3n3r4l]

I mean overall, arena trap just ruins a lot of pvps aspects, switching, predicting, Trapinch isn't weak if that's what you're getting it, 100 base attack is not small in any way.

Just to quote from the Smogon article:

"Lastly, while most of the pro-ban arguments revolved around the most common user of Arena Trap, Dugtrio, many users also agreed that it was Arena Trap that was at the heart of the problem instead of Dugtrio. On the Dugtrio suspect test ladder back in February, a number of players successfully used Diglett and to a lesser extent Trapinch to fulfill nearly the same role as Dugtrio on teams, showing that the ability is clearly overpowered on any user."

[Cooleracc]

okay i kind of get u dude i just wanted to punish chaneira with a troll poke haha

[Finnderboss]

+1 i always wanted to use trapinch too bro

[Crucifixuz]

nice idea yes

[Cooleracc]

atleast some fellas like the idea 

[Iceflake]

-1
Wall of text LUL

Smogon (I remember this) Tried only banning Dugtrio, so people started using diglett.  When people started complaining about it they realized it wasn't Dugtrio's fault it was Arena trap that is at fault.  With arena trap you basically get a free pokemon off the opponents team.  One of these that arena trap loves trapping is heatran, one of suns best counters.  You might be thinking "Oh Heatran can just ohko Trapinch and its slower!"  This is just not true.  Heatran can never fully ohko Trapinch unless its +spatk and invested.  (and which case you would just have to run a custom ev spread of 232 hp/68atk+/208 spdef to be able to ohko any heatran as well not to be ohko'ed yourself.  Arena trap may seem fun and interesting but its deadly to a metagame, even on a lonely trapinch it is deadly.  With the amount of uturn/volt switch you can even fun focus sash max atk trapinch so that when you do get in safely you guarantee getting 1 ko off.  There are plenty of smogon threads explaining how unhealthy it is, I suggest reading up on some of them.  Or if you would like to actually use arena trap just play gen 3 ou and see how fun it is.
(note did this with lava plum heatran, with magma storm evs are slightly different but basically the same)

Edited August 10, 2021 by iceflake