What is the future of the game? Flopped?

[Jhonvga]

1 hour ago, Shinohara said:

Estou escrevendo este post enquanto estou preso em uma cama de hospital, então há uma chance de eu cometer alguns erros de digitação, então, por favor, tenham paciência comigo.

 

 

É puramente lógico que o Hunting System seja uma característica principal de um jogo Pokémon. 
No entanto, é completamente falso que Hunt seja a única maneira de ganhar dinheiro. O jogo fornece uma ampla gama de métodos para ganhar dinheiro, como:

• Pontos de escavação
• Escavação
• Masmorras
• Chefes + Mini Chefes
• Concurso de captura de insetos
• Torneio Mono
• Rebatalhando NPCs
• PokéParadas
• Fornecimento de serviço (por exemplo, Quest Service, EV TRining, EXP Training, etc.)
• etc (muitos outros).

Se você jogar todo esse conteúdo usando uma única conta, sem caçar, você pode ganhar cerca de 1.500.000 Pokedollars a cada 7 dias. 
Se você decidir ignorar algum conteúdo, isso vai reduzir sua renda, mas isso é intencional. Depende de você como você escolhe jogar o jogo, mas quanto mais conteúdo você jogar, maior será sua renda.

Situação Econômica

A economia está longe de estar em boa forma, e há muito espaço para melhorias. No entanto, você está completamente sem noção sobre a situação e acha que simplesmente fazer o conteúdo pagar mais resolverá o problema, sem perceber que isso tornará tudo 10x pior do que está agora.
É como se seu país estivesse enfrentando problemas econômicos e alguém sugerisse " 'Ei! Imprima mais dinheiro!'" Embora isso possa parecer uma solução rápida, na verdade é uma droga e tornará a situação ainda pior (confira a história da Venezuela)
 

O motivo pelo qual alguns conteúdos não pagam tanto quanto deveriam é que os nerfs foram necessários para salvar a economia do jogo. Ao longo dos anos, adicionamos muito conteúdo para fornecer mais variedade e dar aos jogadores mais coisas para aproveitar. No entanto, manter o controle sobre o grande fluxo de itens e recursos descartados de várias atividades do jogo, que então entravam na economia do jogo, não era fácil. Alguns jogadores começaram a explorar esse sistema.
 

Um grande número de jogadores começou a usar várias contas (por exemplo, 4x em Prata, 4x em Ouro), levando a uma quantidade esmagadora de bens negociáveis, o que prejudicou a economia do jogo . Isso diminuiu drasticamente o preço de muitos itens.
Por exemplo, se o mercado tiver apenas 50 peças de um item, ele pode ter um preço de $ 1000. Mas se milhões desse item forem gerados, o preço cairá drasticamente , para algo como $ 5.

Sim, é uma pena que jogadores que não abusaram disso também acabaram prejudicados, ficando no meio do fogo, mas foi a única coisa possível para salvar o jogo.

 

Futuro da Economia 

Com a próxima fusão de contas, muitas coisas vão mudar em como o sistema de conteúdo funciona. Por exemplo, muito do conteúdo não terá mais cooldowns baseados em personagens, mas sim cooldowns baseados em contas.

 

Isso significa que se você tiver 4 personagens, você só poderá jogar Bosses (apenas um exemplo) com um personagem por vez, em vez de usar 2, 3 ou todos os 4 personagens.
Então, se você conhece Jhonvga1, Jhonvg2, Jhonvga3, Jhonvga4, você só poderá jogar Bosses com um deles.

 

Essa mudança dará à equipe mais liberdade para determinar as melhores recompensas para atividades de conteúdo, permitindo que eles recompensem os jogadores de uma maneira melhor sem se preocupar com possíveis "abuso" (que, como dito acima, é o motivo pelo qual as recompensas foram enfraquecidas).

Por favor, seja paciente e forte por mais um pouco, estamos quase lá.

 

 

 

1. Isso simplesmente não é verdade. É falso e está longe da realidade.
   • Embora possa ter sido o caso no passado até certo ponto, jogar Stall não é mais viável na maioria das situações hoje, especialmente devido às recentes mudanças de PvP. A alta presença de ameaças ofensivas variadas torna a compressão de papéis defensivos impossível, ou quase. 
      
2. Se você souber que alguém está jogando para outros e tiver evidências para comprovar isso (porque como você saberia sem evidências?), basta nos denunciar e nós baniremos.

 

 

Embora adicionar novo conteúdo seja crucial para qualquer videogame, acredito que nossa equipe de conteúdo está fazendo o melhor para tornar o jogo o mais agradável e divertido possível para os jogadores em termos de conteúdo (veja Dungeons, por exemplo).
Dito isso, ainda há muitas coisas interessantes em andamento:

• Não estamos apenas recebendo a 1, não a 2, mas a 3 Gen (Gen 7, 8 e 9) e não é tão simples quanto parece. PRO é um jogo baseado em pixels, enquanto as próximas gerações são baseadas em 3D. Não podemos simplesmente baixar arquivos dos jogos oficiais, então há uma enorme quantidade de trabalho nos bastidores que nossos artistas estão fazendo.
• Uma região totalmente nova (e também algo mais!) para hospedar essas novas gerações.
• Novos recursos, sistemas, desafios e modos de jogo;
• Novas recompensas de PVP para incentivar o PVP;
• etc.

Há muito conteúdo a caminho.

 

Em relação ao Rockruff , até onde sei, nunca anunciamos que ele era caçável.
Nem tudo adicionado ao cliente é imediatamente obtido. Significa simplesmente que está pronto para ser usado quando necessário. Pode levar uma semana, duas semanas ou até meses após uma atualização antes que ele fique disponível.
Às vezes, um Pokémon é adicionado, mas não lançado porque podemos não estar totalmente satisfeitos com o resultado e queremos evitar retrabalhar formas (como fizemos com Drillbur) tanto quanto possível para evitar causar problemas para os jogadores (por exemplo, um jogador compra um HW Drillbur, mas então retrabalhamos a forma porque achamos que não se encaixa no jogo, e o jogador recebeu um dano) .

 

Quanto à afirmação de que " a PRO só faz cosméticos", é um equívoco dos jogadores.

Temos cerca de 20 artistas organizados em grupos: por exemplo, um para cosméticos, um para formulários de eventos, um para o cliente, um para tiles e NPCs, etc.
Enquanto lançamos "800" cosméticos, também há artistas trabalhando em Astrella e outros recursos do jogo simultaneamente . Então, não, os cosméticos não estão atrasando nenhum outro conteúdo.

 

Sobre o tópico de descrições de itens, sim, pode haver erros. Se você notar algum, por favor, reporte-o para nos ajudar a consertá-lo, em vez de apenas reclamar. Não podemos consertar problemas dos quais não temos conhecimento.

 

Por fim, sobre traduções: não, 50% da nossa comunidade não é do Brasil .  Não há nada de errado com os brasileiros. Nós amamos todos os jogadores incondicionalmente, mas de onde você tirou esse número??
Neste momento específico, a distribuição real é em torno de:

• 12-13% do Brasil;
• 25-30% dos EUA;
• 15-17% do Vietnã;
• Índia 12-13%;
• etc

Você pode obter números reais aqui:  https://dashboard.pokemonrevolution.net/dashboard
Tenha em mente que alguns jogadores jogam em ambos os servidores, então os números podem ser um pouco inflacionados (isso se aplica a todos os países).

 

Simplesmente não podemos e não iremos traduzir o jogo para outros idiomas além do inglês.
Traduzir o jogo inteiro, incluindo diálogos, movimentos, missões, etc., levaria até anos .
Se o traduzíssemos para o português (Brasil), teríamos que fazer o mesmo para outros idiomas, como chinês, vietnamita e indiano.
Isso não só levaria anos, mas também causaria atrasos significativos nas atualizações (já que precisaríamos traduzir cada atualização). Tenha em mente que mesmo jogos muito maiores que o nosso não oferecem traduções pelo mesmo motivo.
Esperamos que você entenda.

 

Atualmente são 4 da manhã na Europa, então todo mundo está dormindo, e 9 da manhã na Ásia (China, Vietnã, Índia) são 8-10 da manhã, então as crianças estão na escola e os adultos estão no trabalho.

Isso deixa apenas a América (continente) disponível para jogar, e ainda assim temos 650 jogadores online:

383 + 267 = 650.

650 jogadores online enquanto todos na Europa dormem + a Ásia está na escola/trabalho não é um número ruim.

 

Durante dezembro + NATAL:

• 14 de dezembro: 6h da manhã na UE (então toda a Europa dormindo + Ásia na escola e no trabalho, e tarde da noite na América)  455 + 394 = 850 jogadores online
  
   
• 9 de dezembro: 4h da manhã UE (então toda a Europa dormindo + Ásia na escola e no trabalho, e apenas a América acordada)  542 + 429 = 971 jogadores online 
  
   
• 25 de dezembro: 13h40 UE (tarde da noite para América, UE+Ásia disponível)Este é o dia 25 de dezembro, quando as pessoas deveriam estar comemorando com suas famílias. 914 pessoas online.
   
  
  
   
• 1, 2 e 3 de dezembro: 1564 jogadores online ao mesmo tempo (940+624)
  
  
   
• 4 de janeiro:  1429 jogadores online ao mesmo tempo
  

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Não sei de onde você tirou esses números, mas, a essa altura, é só desinformação.

É o mesmo de quando você afirmou anteriormente que 50% da comunidade PRO era do Brasil ou que o PVP atual é fortemente centrado em stall. 

Você está lançando números aleatoriamente, sem reservar um tempo para pesquisar ou verificar nada.

 

Temos dois servidores, enquanto outros jogos (Pokemon Fanmade) têm apenas um, então contar apenas os jogadores em um servidor é inútil.

• 'Meu Deus, Gold tem apenas 400 jogadores online!'

• Sim, sem brincadeira, mas se Silver tem 550, são 950 jogadores no total. Claro, alguns jogadores podem estar online em ambos os servidores, mas, com meus 6 anos de experiência como staff, posso dizer que esse número não passa de 30-50.

   

 

 

 

 

Firstly, Good Night and I hope you recover well, I will answer in parts, I found your answer complex and interesting. First I will respond to this print below.

Everything that was written there is really a fact, but the grind is massive and healthy, and as a player I risk saying that perhaps you have never done a farming route like the one you say, because I have done it and it is extremely massive! I don't think you even play the game much. But really the points you mentioned can earn that kind of money in the game, but massive and repetitive, in short, more of the same with different names, excavation hasn't been updated for a long time, fishing and insect contests, more of the same for years, everything deserves it too improvements, besides that you are right and coherent, but it seems to me that you don't play the game because it seems easy when you say 1.5m every 7 days, but for me and for people who farm without selling items, you know that Add 1.5m doing what You said it's very difficult.

 

now part 2 XD

 

Well, in relation to the economy, I'll just tell you the following, the trade chat is very bad to use, it's really bad, it really needs attention, perhaps it already solves major problems with exchanging items and pokemons within the game. About the pokedolls you explained everything, but I suggest that when you recover, create an account, play from the beginning and do the entire campaign and just by playing you will feel the weight of the economy without wanting to buy anything from any player, and this test will do So much for the post above that you said it is possible to farm 1.5m in 7 days (it really is possible). The feeling you will get is that you are playing a speed run and not playing for fun. PRO is the only game I know where you sell CHEAP things and buy EXPENSIVE things, maybe for people who have a lot of money in the game they don't feel the weight, but for those who are starting out and even those who don't have time to farm a lot they do. a lot too. But here is the experiment for you to do and pass the feedback to the community (when it improves).

 

Now part 3 XD

About that, simply excellent, I believe that many who are following this post will be happy with this decision, but not everything is rosy! If you're really going to advertise and do it, do it correctly! No delays and bugs (bugs are part of the evolution process) be responsible with this decision because I'm happy to know it now! Furthermore, I really liked this statement/news!

 

Now part 4 XD

Regarding topics 1 and 2, yes, it continues to exist despite having DRASTICALLY reduced the number, what bothers is players influencing new players to play like this, mainly because if Gen 9 full arrives it will be possible to assemble a very consistent stall team, yes ! And about stall matches, you must be saying that the match I witnessed lasted almost 1 hour and 20 minutes, I don't need to mention nicknames but it was stall x stall, that is, both players had plenty of time to play this match. Everything else is fine. PvP has a lot to improve, just for players to be able to see a screen contactor, see the dangers on the battle floor and have information about the % of damage suffered would be excellent. I'm not going to get into the topic of pokemons and items that I believe you already know need to arrive urgently, right?

About new content...
What you say is excellent, but there is a very popular saying in Brazil, "talk until the parrot speaks", you speak beautifully, the news announcements are beautiful and epic, all that's left is to play a Game of Thrones soundtrack. But the reality is that it's late (or never arrives), it's full of bugs and things like that and this frustrates the community a lot.

 

Now part 5 XD

About rockruff, it's simple and direct, if it wasn't supposed to be huntable, just don't add it to the client, or do it in a way that doesn't make it possible for the community to see the "skin" because I simply know a lot of players who have been waiting the whole xmas to do the hunt, they waited until the last day and nothing, you may actually be right about inserting the form in game, but an announcement about an outbreak pokemon with a skin got a lot of people excited! But about forms I don't even care that much but I think it's an incredible quality and it leaves the game with a unique "identity".

 

Regarding cosmetics and skins, I reaffirm and reaffirm as much as necessary and you can check it yourself in the logs or announcements, every update (especially events) includes dozens of cosmetics and skins and the game's problems are still there, I think It's interesting if they did it like Charizard's mount, it's still a zard but it's really much more beautiful and long live the mount, a revamp at this level on mounts I think is much more accepted than a lot of skins and random mounts. It's not on topic, but the event maps and some PRO places are huge, but EMPTY, there's no point in a gigantic map (areas) with a small player base, the hw/xmas map has a serious problem of not having a TP between PCs, something simple that they should have had for a long time, don't have, just this small addition makes a lot of difference for those who have been playing for a long time. That's it anyway.

 

Regarding item descriptions, do you have items that have outdated or incorrect descriptions or are missing information! "instead of complaining" "a problem that we are not aware of", I do have the right to complain and it is only with complaints that things improve and scores too, and how come you are not aware of something you did? That's a bit comical, isn't it? But I make a point of making a post with some items that have the wrong or incomplete description (the vast majority are incomplete)

 

Regarding the translation, I believe you didn't even read the other publications from other players in this topic, it was a mistake on my part 50%, but big YouTubes promoted your game, made thousands of views with your game and you know where they are from ? From Brazil, and do you know what they are playing? anything but PRO!

If you hit the button SAYING THAT THERE WILL NEVER BE A TRANSLATION TO OTHER LANGUAGES, sorry, what I'm about to say is very sad and it sucks to read. I never mentioned that the staff should dedicate their precious time to translating the game but rather allow players to translate their own game, simple. And the translation, as has already been said in response to some people, the BR community already has one ready, our country faces a very serious education problem where many actually don't know even the basics of English. But I respect this decision, you must have reached an agreement.... I believe that there was no BR staff in that discussion that day, but that's okay!

 

Now part 6

Well, it's worth pointing out that you hear this mistake in 50% of the player base, but I think you rely too much on numbers, as you don't play the game and don't bother spending a few days playing to see how the game itself is in its entirety. !

You showed a bunch of screenshots, if you really don't play, look and think that a lot of people are playing, from this large number on both servers I can say that there is a relevant amount of bost! according to "500 people on silver" you can freely walk around the map and the feeling you will have is that you are playing with a maximum of 30 people or even solo depending on the region and honestly I need to explain to you why the spike in players in xmas ? or at events? Is it really serious? BOTS FRIEND, lots of BOTS and that's sad, not counting the alts too of course. enter the game's all chat, if you count 100 different nicknames in 1 hour it will be an almost impossible task, maybe count 10-20... trade chat then sometimes even less than that.

I really may have made a mistake in one line or another, but I admit my mistakes and correct them, and I think you need to play the game because being present for 6 years and playing during that period are totally different things! and you need to be online in game to start noticing all the problems I mentioned!

Anyway, thank you for the answer, get better and recover well, stay with God. and No more pushing dirt under the carpet.

I noticed that you like numbers, I'll soon make another post with lots of details, 100% accurate information and the infamous numbers that you love

A big hug

 

Edited yesterday at 04:20 AM by Jhonvga

[Vangogsan]

6 hours ago, Jhonvga said:

Firstly, good night, secondly, yes, I will be strict! At no time did I offend the staff or say anything personal about them. My severe criticism is how the quality has fallen over time and the lack of updates. No one really keeps me interested in the game, for this simple reason that every day that passes fewer people are actually playing online, outside of events it looks like a solo Pokemon game. I would like you to tell me where I compared PRO with another Pokemon MMO, for me PRO is unique and has the potential to be the greatest Pokemon MMO, I have already given a lot of praise and recommendations for the games, I even have blasted them on YouTube with more than 1k of views about the game, I love the game but the quality has gone down a lot, and there is a lot to improve and I'm not talking about skins or cosmetics, but about new systems, bug fixes, new mechanics, something that really be innovative in game. And yes, I will continue with strong criticisms about PRO because 4k hours spent in game is a lot, I've played several games and all of them I didn't play even half the time I played PRO. And there is nothing in the world that cannot be improved by mistakes and criticism!

i will repeat :

you can get life orb, toxic orb, flame orb from bcc or boss battles ( while you spend time doing them)

assault vest , rocky helmet or any other item from excavations ( while doing them )
choice items from item recycle ( if you stack items and you dont use them )

In 2017 i had to pay for choise items 160k per peace, now some worth 80k ( price dropped )
in 2017 i had to pay for orbs 80k per peace ( now are 30-20 k per )

==========================================

Doing bcc daily is like doing 1 boss per day , so you can math how much you can get from it at the end of the month 

Since you are limited to do bosses , i do mine that way - every week all bosses per region - so you can trace and make money every week

=========================================
About events - farming good forms , rare forms , epic pokes allow you to make easy cash, my gf got epic mudkip and sold it easy for 7m ( if you complain that are cheap money idk what to say )

Also you can provide service since exp share so you can do your stuff cheaper and make money from that kind

========================================

About dungeons - if you dont like them that is personal your opinion, but that doesnt mean is not good thing, from them you can easy hunt for rare poke witch can be used in pvp, or get shadow form and make good cash 

and last the pvp aspect :

Since this game is grind orientated game its normal people to search alway for better pokes ( since they have something already ) and wanting to be replaced. So those who are lazy to hunt and rule his money wize are whiling to pay more for something epic.

What leads that to : decent pokemons for pvp goes cheaper and cheaper 

you can buy full rdy pvp team for less than 3m ( money that you can earn for like 3-4 months only doing bosses and no other activity )

Cheap boss teams 

so its very naturaly the game to be as it is atm ( cheap ) , because we need new pokemons , witch need time to be made because the game is fun made. People that do this are limited with time and other stuffs .

If you want really to make something apply for staff member and do something, other way your topic is just crying at the dust



I will give few examples of the 80 % of the new players coming here :

Note 80 % of the players came here beg for money- they just sit in vermi and spam to everyone that enter the pc

90% of the players care what they wear than what they have in his pc - they make some cash and start buying stupid clothes or cosmetics , and then cry in all chat because they are poor 

60% of those who joined any guild do not add anyhing so they are fast kicked after 3-4 months 


Bad managment of his money leads to be poor and not able to buy what they want - those are the facts , and if you call yourself old player you should understand that

And lets not forget the math :

5 months of ladder are 13-15m from items 
1-3 top place with some in bccor fc  luck are 1-6m from cosmetics , not mentioning that you can save from buying rare candies, safari or train pass
service - if you are good doing ev and lvl up , you can make millions in days , some people /  guilds are ready to pay 80-90k per poke just to be done fast, also you can have spot in any good / top guild if you are correct with what you do
hunting - every meta pokemon that have good nature, stats , abillity is good cash , not mentioning form or shiny - can give you good money ( but if the players were smart they wont sold his best mons)
bosses- 20-40k per poke is solid 300-500k per month 
other activitys - Battle bot, solosean news reporter - can save you cash from some things you might need 


Oh and btw , you have pve coins that you can buy all mentioned its expensive for you from the pve coins shop


So lets not blame the others for our own mistakes. If you want something - work for it ( apply in irl too)

If pvp seems bad for you , teach players with out of meta teams and change it 
if you lack of money - rule your cash better 
if you see something that is not good or want to add something good - they post mountly that search staff members


I made over 20 topics with suggestions , some denied some wait, and i understand that if you want to make something you should have 2 things - time and people that work for it . I was leader and i put a lot to make good communety , competative guild , im happy cuz i met people that are dedicated and chill and we going good, it was not easy but i did what is the best of me to make the game alive. And still do my best to make it better . 

You cant blame the others when you [heck] your panties.

 

[Nlyax]

There could be a lot said but because the majority of staff are volunteered based from what I have heard,  like fine to expect all these things and if the time frame content etc  take do not suit you the [heck] answer is well quit.

 

I am a person who really likes when new stuff comes out content wise consistently and in the past I have been salty at how long this game takes to add meaningful updates but like I said and I have faced it myself also,  these are volunteers so in my instance I have just accepted that and if it annoys me to much at some point again I’ll just remove myself from the game. 
 

 

Can always come back when things are added down the line.

 

Whole playerbase is a bit salty over Astrella but we make the choice whether to take a break and come back when those moms become available or quit for good as over waiting. 
 

unfortunately it is just a decision you will have to make also. 
 

 

tldr: I understand where you are coming from but it is just how it is with the circumstances of this game.

Edited yesterday at 09:56 AM by Nlyax

[Jhonvga]

6 hours ago, Vangogsan said:

i will repeat :

you can get life orb, toxic orb, flame orb from bcc or boss battles ( while you spend time doing them)

assault vest , rocky helmet or any other item from excavations ( while doing them )
choice items from item recycle ( if you stack items and you dont use them )

In 2017 i had to pay for choise items 160k per peace, now some worth 80k ( price dropped )
in 2017 i had to pay for orbs 80k per peace ( now are 30-20 k per )

==========================================

Doing bcc daily is like doing 1 boss per day , so you can math how much you can get from it at the end of the month 

Since you are limited to do bosses , i do mine that way - every week all bosses per region - so you can trace and make money every week

=========================================
About events - farming good forms , rare forms , epic pokes allow you to make easy cash, my gf got epic mudkip and sold it easy for 7m ( if you complain that are cheap money idk what to say )

Also you can provide service since exp share so you can do your stuff cheaper and make money from that kind

========================================

About dungeons - if you dont like them that is personal your opinion, but that doesnt mean is not good thing, from them you can easy hunt for rare poke witch can be used in pvp, or get shadow form and make good cash 

and last the pvp aspect :

Since this game is grind orientated game its normal people to search alway for better pokes ( since they have something already ) and wanting to be replaced. So those who are lazy to hunt and rule his money wize are whiling to pay more for something epic.

What leads that to : decent pokemons for pvp goes cheaper and cheaper 

you can buy full rdy pvp team for less than 3m ( money that you can earn for like 3-4 months only doing bosses and no other activity )

Cheap boss teams 

so its very naturaly the game to be as it is atm ( cheap ) , because we need new pokemons , witch need time to be made because the game is fun made. People that do this are limited with time and other stuffs .

If you want really to make something apply for staff member and do something, other way your topic is just crying at the dust



I will give few examples of the 80 % of the new players coming here :

Note 80 % of the players came here beg for money- they just sit in vermi and spam to everyone that enter the pc

90% of the players care what they wear than what they have in his pc - they make some cash and start buying stupid clothes or cosmetics , and then cry in all chat because they are poor 

60% of those who joined any guild do not add anyhing so they are fast kicked after 3-4 months 


Bad managment of his money leads to be poor and not able to buy what they want - those are the facts , and if you call yourself old player you should understand that

And lets not forget the math :

5 months of ladder are 13-15m from items 
1-3 top place with some in bccor fc  luck are 1-6m from cosmetics , not mentioning that you can save from buying rare candies, safari or train pass
service - if you are good doing ev and lvl up , you can make millions in days , some people /  guilds are ready to pay 80-90k per poke just to be done fast, also you can have spot in any good / top guild if you are correct with what you do
hunting - every meta pokemon that have good nature, stats , abillity is good cash , not mentioning form or shiny - can give you good money ( but if the players were smart they wont sold his best mons)
bosses- 20-40k per poke is solid 300-500k per month 
other activitys - Battle bot, solosean news reporter - can save you cash from some things you might need 


Oh and btw , you have pve coins that you can buy all mentioned its expensive for you from the pve coins shop


So lets not blame the others for our own mistakes. If you want something - work for it ( apply in irl too)

If pvp seems bad for you , teach players with out of meta teams and change it 
if you lack of money - rule your cash better 
if you see something that is not good or want to add something good - they post mountly that search staff members


I made over 20 topics with suggestions , some denied some wait, and i understand that if you want to make something you should have 2 things - time and people that work for it . I was leader and i put a lot to make good communety , competative guild , im happy cuz i met people that are dedicated and chill and we going good, it was not easy but i did what is the best of me to make the game alive. And still do my best to make it better . 

You cant blame the others when you [heck] your panties.

 

Good afternoon, regarding the held pvp items, I will explain the situation in a simple way to you. The price has not dropped because the economy is good, but because the vast majority of the active player base already has these items and there is almost no demand, I I even have dozens of some held pvp items, that explains why they are 30-20k as you say there (and not all of them can be found for that price). Bottom line again for you, it's simple, there are no new players to buy these items that's why it's cheap!

About the bosses, Bccs and "profitable" activities (but which you spend money to do them kkakakak) I've already said above several times, weak, ridiculous and low rewards, it's worth it if one day you're lucky enough to see shiny rare in the bcc.. I talked about bosses and bosses in response to Shinohara's topic (I don't know if I wrote it right).

 

About events and services.... Massive grind, and put massiveness into it! I, Jhonvga, have already done several shiny hunts for rare Pokemon and I guarantee you that it is not healthy and hunting gets frustrating! I managed to catch 2 shiny scyther before catching a summer scyther, this in a hunt lasting 30 days (I lost summer and vital energy to catch 1 form). I think these points need innovation and rework to make hunting easier and more satisfying. Service is poorly paid and you are truly committed to providing the service. It even looks like real outsourced work!

 

Regarding everything else, you seem quite satisfied with the current situation of the game, you turn around and say that it's normal for a boss-only farm to give you 3m in 3-4m, it's just a joke.... it seems like a joke and a bit crazy read this. Regarding consistent pvp teams, I would like you to show me a competitive pokemon team with prints of the pokemons if you can really assemble them with 3m, I think you are wrong. If you are really going to do this, show the efficiency of this team in practice.

My topic is "crying"? I would really like to know what your excellence has contributed to the game in all these years? how many people it helped and how many players it brought to the game. What about me applying to the team to work for them so I can play a better game? really you are a little crazy, The problem in the economy is more the big mafia that dominates the trade than in new pokemons (new pokemons are really necessary). The economy is bad YES, and apparently I'm the only one who has the guts in this game to come and tell some truths, since most of the time the complaints are either ignored or answered with "go play another game" "no one forces you to play " That's why the player base is small, some people (not all), if you want, they'll take the trouble to help new players, but that's a topic for another time. But in short, the community itself has great responsibility for the current situation of the game, we are all part of this.

 

Now about the last topic pvp and money. Seriously, I don't think you bother to read the answer in other posts, but in short the PvP may not be very good, but it's already improved a lot! Regarding money management, any player (in my opinion) must have the power to do what they want with their money in game, knowing that they can earn it quickly at any time! In the pro it's not like that, it's almost like managing real money, if you spend it, you run out and you can only buy something next month, that's ridiculous... and I don't have any problem with money in game, the real problem is how quickly the money leaves our account and how slow and painful it is to recover this amount!

Regarding the guild, luckily over time we became friends and played other things besides pro, so I believe that at this point we got a lot right, but there are almost 100 Brazilians in my guild and believe it or not, these 100 people represent 100 complaints, many are dissatisfied and I believe that if you do a popular vote you will see how many dissatisfied people there are in the game. Anyway, I'm enjoying seeing you here responding to the posts, I think we'll be debating a lot here!

[Jhonvga]

6 hours ago, Nlyax said:

There could be a lot said but because the majority of staff are volunteered based from what I have heard,  like fine to expect all these things and if the time frame content etc  take do not suit you the [heck] answer is well quit.

 

I am a person who really likes when new stuff comes out content wise consistently and in the past I have been salty at how long this game takes to add meaningful updates but like I said and I have faced it myself also,  these are volunteers so in my instance I have just accepted that and if it annoys me to much at some point again I’ll just remove myself from the game. 
 

 

Can always come back when things are added down the line.

 

Whole playerbase is a bit salty over Astrella but we make the choice whether to take a break and come back when those moms become available or quit for good as over waiting. 
 

unfortunately it is just a decision you will have to make also. 
 

 

tldr: I understand where you are coming from but it is just how it is with the circumstances of this game.

Good afternoon, I think everyone is very wrong about how I feel about this game, at the moment I'm not angry and frustrated, I'm just showing up to say some things that haven't been said in a while or if you want, Pay attention, after all, look at this topic. 1 day and almost 1k views and several people commenting! And yes, to avoid stress I simply don't play, which is what's happening with the game, people get angry, frustrated by false promises, painful gameplay, toxic community, economic problems and so on, do you know what they do? They stop playing and go to another game. I have known for a long time that they are volunteers, yesterday Shinohara (I don't know if I wrote it right) responded and said that he was in the hospital, I know that they are volunteers, but is it difficult to be a man and keep promises? Deadlines or quality? They could focus on these points instead of more skins and cosmetics, believe it or not, new mechanics and in-game systems are much better for your health than some meaningless updates out there. Anyway, I've already made my decision and I found your comment on the post very lucid! so different that they don't even bother to read the answer I give! Thank you for publishing and believe me, your speech is very important!

[Raika]

I think you rely too much on numbers, 1k views in 1 day is not real.

[Jhonvga]

4 minutes ago, Raika said:

I think you rely too much on numbers, 1k views in 1 day is not real.

Either I'm completely wrong, or I'm completely right, or I'm just stating the real and current situation of the PRO! For some people the game is normal and very good, for some it needs urgent improvements to return to being a healthy MMO to play. Anyway, I find it interesting to point this out and see people's perspectives on the game, in a way this type of rigid debate is important! Thank you for mentioning it in the post and good afternoon

[Vangogsan]

17 minutes ago, Jhonvga said:

Good afternoon, regarding the held pvp items, I will explain the situation in a simple way to you. The price has not dropped because the economy is good, but because the vast majority of the active player base already has these items and there is almost no demand, I I even have dozens of some held pvp items, that explains why they are 30-20k as you say there (and not all of them can be found for that price). Bottom line again for you, it's simple, there are no new players to buy these items that's why it's cheap!

About the bosses, Bccs and "profitable" activities (but which you spend money to do them kkakakak) I've already said above several times, weak, ridiculous and low rewards, it's worth it if one day you're lucky enough to see shiny rare in the bcc.. I talked about bosses and bosses in response to Shinohara's topic (I don't know if I wrote it right).

 

About events and services.... Massive grind, and put massiveness into it! I, Jhonvga, have already done several shiny hunts for rare Pokemon and I guarantee you that it is not healthy and hunting gets frustrating! I managed to catch 2 shiny scyther before catching a summer scyther, this in a hunt lasting 30 days (I lost summer and vital energy to catch 1 form). I think these points need innovation and rework to make hunting easier and more satisfying. Service is poorly paid and you are truly committed to providing the service. It even looks like real outsourced work!

 

Regarding everything else, you seem quite satisfied with the current situation of the game, you turn around and say that it's normal for a boss-only farm to give you 3m in 3-4m, it's just a joke.... it seems like a joke and a bit crazy read this. Regarding consistent pvp teams, I would like you to show me a competitive pokemon team with prints of the pokemons if you can really assemble them with 3m, I think you are wrong. If you are really going to do this, show the efficiency of this team in practice.

My topic is "crying"? I would really like to know what your excellence has contributed to the game in all these years? how many people it helped and how many players it brought to the game. What about me applying to the team to work for them so I can play a better game? really you are a little crazy, The problem in the economy is more the big mafia that dominates the trade than in new pokemons (new pokemons are really necessary). The economy is bad YES, and apparently I'm the only one who has the guts in this game to come and tell some truths, since most of the time the complaints are either ignored or answered with "go play another game" "no one forces you to play " That's why the player base is small, some people (not all), if you want, they'll take the trouble to help new players, but that's a topic for another time. But in short, the community itself has great responsibility for the current situation of the game, we are all part of this.

 

Now about the last topic pvp and money. Seriously, I don't think you bother to read the answer in other posts, but in short the PvP may not be very good, but it's already improved a lot! Regarding money management, any player (in my opinion) must have the power to do what they want with their money in game, knowing that they can earn it quickly at any time! In the pro it's not like that, it's almost like managing real money, if you spend it, you run out and you can only buy something next month, that's ridiculous... and I don't have any problem with money in game, the real problem is how quickly the money leaves our account and how slow and painful it is to recover this amount!

Regarding the guild, luckily over time we became friends and played other things besides pro, so I believe that at this point we got a lot right, but there are almost 100 Brazilians in my guild and believe it or not, these 100 people represent 100 complaints, many are dissatisfied and I believe that if you do a popular vote you will see how many dissatisfied people there are in the game. Anyway, I'm enjoying seeing you here responding to the posts, I think we'll be debating a lot here!

"The price has not dropped because the economy is good, but because the vast majority of the active player base already has these items " - its something that will happen at some point with anything here . And yes, some items you have higher price but you still can buy them with pvp - pve coins,so you can save money from it .


"About the bosses, Bccs and "profitable" activities (but which you spend money to do them kkakakak) "-  you cant catch psyduck, diglet, magnemite, after story you can get pancham and cottone and find one clampearl, then you need to do them and invest a bit for moves . If that task is much for a new player - idk what he is doing in grind based game .... Oh btw i bet if you do it yourself the total price will be like 400k investment ( less price that 90% of the players give to wear cosmetics ) and gane be returned in 1-2 boss runs .


"About events and services.... Massive grind, and put massiveness into it! I, Jhonvga, have already done several shiny hunts for rare Pokemon and I guarantee you that it is not healthy and hunting gets frustrating " - i hunt 80% of my time in game, sometimes i dont end with anything, but i dont look what other gets , i dont get frustrated cuz i dotn have any expectations, im here to have fun. Hunting require to not be greedy and wanting all good stuffs for yourself, but to select some area and put some time. ( cuz we are here to waste it anyway ). With this kind of logic you can end irl the same way and get depressed . (btw also something that every player can pick )


"Regarding everything else, you seem quite satisfied with the current situation of the game, you turn around and say that it's normal for a boss-only farm to give you 3m in 3-4m, it's just a joke.... it seems like a joke and a bit crazy read this. Regarding consistent pvp teams, I would like you to show me a competitive pokemon team with prints of the pokemons if you can really assemble them with 3m, I think you are wrong. If you are really going to do this, show the efficiency of this team in practice. "- im happy that at least something in this game ( situation make it good for you, that will stops the crying about everything in the game that you dont like , cuz clearly we saw you dont like to do bosses because you see them less profit able, lvl and ev service, pvp and dungeons cuz you said you dont like them) . Now about for well working team that is accessable for everyone . You can replace zapdos with rotom or skamory https://pokepast.es/208480248c1fe227 and garchopm with hippo. To make and use good team you need to have idea how to build good team and spend some time hunthing them . Im not good example of good team builder but i can name 5 people who can do the job and can make cool and well working teams .


"The economy is bad YES, and apparently I'm the only one who has the guts in this game to come and tell some truths, since most of the time the complaints are either ignored or answered with "go play another game" "no one forces you to play " That's why the player base is small, some people (not all), if you want, they'll take the trouble to help new players, but that's a topic for another time. But in short, the community itself has great responsibility for the current situation of the game, we are all part of this."- the economy looks as its should be of this etap of the game. And if you cant understand that every aspect matter and build it ( large number  decent pokemons and pvp items , 60% of the players who dont pvp because they have no idea or 0 interest in it and care only for forms and shiny , rich and poor people , people that save cash and those who spend everything on useles things ) your topic looks just like crying how everything here is hard and unfair . Btw i bet that is not mentioned - many players were banned cuz they used bots or they cheat in pvp , so to talk for player base and how many stayed here you  should think about that too.


"Now about the last topic pvp and money. Seriously, I don't think you bother to read the answer in other posts, but in short the PvP may not be very good, but it's already improved a lot! Regarding money management, any player (in my opinion) must have the power to do what they want with their money in game, knowing that they can earn it quickly at any time! In the pro it's not like that, it's almost like managing real money, if you spend it, you run out and you can only buy something next month, that's ridiculous... and I don't have any problem with money in game, the real problem is how quickly the money leaves our account and how slow and painful it is to recover this amount! "- i will mention it for last time, if player spend their money stupid , its their problem, thats why here we have pokemons that worth millions and pokemons that worth as they should atm, every player want something better that will works in next 2-5 years , so they are ready to spend what they think is fair . And those who spend all look from side. 

You have many guides for story , mega stones , legendary quest that can give you info about how to make them without to buy service or any. If you hunt and dont sell your sruffs your money wont vanish and you will have less to spend for. Every dungeon give you chance for rr so even to make usable legend cost less. Its all strtegy and how people play their game. 



About the last part - every player can think what they want, but to say something is good or bad you have to put all the things that matters and here first matter what they do and how they do . If you try to open a door with your head you will brake it , if you just pull it you will pass easly . 

I tried to help many players giving them cash , pokemons and everything needed, and my observations are that all want everything with less effort . And even if they make money they still dont run them smart and buy stupid things that have no use further . You cant blame the game because you play it stupid . Im here enough long to say that.


Last because i wont answer further on this topic because i hate to argue with people who look always the negative on the game,  i will repeat myself - if you want the game to be cool for you- make it
Run guild, do events ,help the people to be better ,become staff and do the things that are delayed , but dont complain how the game is bad or how is unfair and you feel frustration. With small talk you wont change anything . Im not able to be part of the staff team cuz simply i dont find myself good for that and i dont have the time, but i do what i can to help those who work for it ( as try my best to guide and help my guild mates and donate cash to exist the game ). 

I was there when servers last 15 mins and i had to wait 2-3 houts to play the game in the old red, blue and later yellow servers , before every mega evolution , before z crystals, before dungeons and every event that you play and wait. Before rr to be 500k . 

Peace !!!

[Emilio1711]

i do agree mostly. Also the pvp is terrible and unfair for newer players. Its rediculous overpowerd that someone can mega evole and use a z-move for example. 

[Nxtaryan]

8 hours ago, Vangogsan said:

i will repeat :

you can get life orb, toxic orb, flame orb from bcc or boss battles ( while you spend time doing them)

assault vest , rocky helmet or any other item from excavations ( while doing them )
choice items from item recycle ( if you stack items and you dont use them )

In 2017 i had to pay for choise items 160k per peace, now some worth 80k ( price dropped )
in 2017 i had to pay for orbs 80k per peace ( now are 30-20 k per )

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Doing bcc daily is like doing 1 boss per day , so you can math how much you can get from it at the end of the month 

Since you are limited to do bosses , i do mine that way - every week all bosses per region - so you can trace and make money every week

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About events - farming good forms , rare forms , epic pokes allow you to make easy cash, my gf got epic mudkip and sold it easy for 7m ( if you complain that are cheap money idk what to say )

Also you can provide service since exp share so you can do your stuff cheaper and make money from that kind

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About dungeons - if you dont like them that is personal your opinion, but that doesnt mean is not good thing, from them you can easy hunt for rare poke witch can be used in pvp, or get shadow form and make good cash 

and last the pvp aspect :

Since this game is grind orientated game its normal people to search alway for better pokes ( since they have something already ) and wanting to be replaced. So those who are lazy to hunt and rule his money wize are whiling to pay more for something epic.

What leads that to : decent pokemons for pvp goes cheaper and cheaper 

you can buy full rdy pvp team for less than 3m ( money that you can earn for like 3-4 months only doing bosses and no other activity )

Cheap boss teams 

so its very naturaly the game to be as it is atm ( cheap ) , because we need new pokemons , witch need time to be made because the game is fun made. People that do this are limited with time and other stuffs .

If you want really to make something apply for staff member and do something, other way your topic is just crying at the dust



I will give few examples of the 80 % of the new players coming here :

Note 80 % of the players came here beg for money- they just sit in vermi and spam to everyone that enter the pc

90% of the players care what they wear than what they have in his pc - they make some cash and start buying stupid clothes or cosmetics , and then cry in all chat because they are poor 

60% of those who joined any guild do not add anyhing so they are fast kicked after 3-4 months 


Bad managment of his money leads to be poor and not able to buy what they want - those are the facts , and if you call yourself old player you should understand that

And lets not forget the math :

5 months of ladder are 13-15m from items 
1-3 top place with some in bccor fc  luck are 1-6m from cosmetics , not mentioning that you can save from buying rare candies, safari or train pass
service - if you are good doing ev and lvl up , you can make millions in days , some people /  guilds are ready to pay 80-90k per poke just to be done fast, also you can have spot in any good / top guild if you are correct with what you do
hunting - every meta pokemon that have good nature, stats , abillity is good cash , not mentioning form or shiny - can give you good money ( but if the players were smart they wont sold his best mons)
bosses- 20-40k per poke is solid 300-500k per month 
other activitys - Battle bot, solosean news reporter - can save you cash from some things you might need 


Oh and btw , you have pve coins that you can buy all mentioned its expensive for you from the pve coins shop


So lets not blame the others for our own mistakes. If you want something - work for it ( apply in irl too)

If pvp seems bad for you , teach players with out of meta teams and change it 
if you lack of money - rule your cash better 
if you see something that is not good or want to add something good - they post mountly that search staff members


I made over 20 topics with suggestions , some denied some wait, and i understand that if you want to make something you should have 2 things - time and people that work for it . I was leader and i put a lot to make good communety , competative guild , im happy cuz i met people that are dedicated and chill and we going good, it was not easy but i did what is the best of me to make the game alive. And still do my best to make it better . 

You cant blame the others when you [heck] your panties.

 

 btw @Vangogsan is right