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TL:DR, MS pokemon are getting out of hand.

 

This is a chart for Honedge, a Pokemon that is used very much in pvp ever since it got freed from its ban.  Recently it got a Valentines form as well.(Which is sick GJ artist team), but if you notice there isn't a single way to get a event form honedge outside of MS spawns.  Headbutts don't give out shiny/forms and excavations are shiny/formed locked.  Why does Honedge need so many MS spawns?

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Im all for making MS spawns better than the non MS spawns, makes MS something to seek and buy when you can.  But objectifying it as "Needed" for a Pokemon just is unjustifiable.  Make the Non MS spawns somewhere the original Pokemon could actively spawn at.  For example Cave of justice seems perfect for this.  Its late enough in the game for people needing to complete 3 regions and most of sinnoh to get to. 

Then we have things like this.

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This is the spawns for Bagon, a popular Pokemon but not very used in pvp but also has a Val form so people are going to hunt for it.  The reason why I show this is Why is a HOENN native pokemon locked behind SINNOH.  Meteor Falls is where you would get Bagon in the original games.  This would be like locking Pikachu in Virdian forest or power plant in kanto behind ms and giving it a spawn at the power plant in Sinnoh and calling it a good way to balance MS. Of course this isn't as bad as honedge as Bagon actually does have a non MS spawn and on the event island and sinnoh.  Seems like it should be the other way around.

 

Im sure there are others examples like how Alolan Marowak was a MS spawn ONLY for haloween, but after seeing honedge I had to say something.  Bagon spawn been in the back of my mind for years now. 

 

My suggestion is to change how you view MS spawns because seems to me its getting out of hand.  Seems almost predatory in how its trying to get the player to donate in order to get them 15 days of MS hunting.

 

 

MS in my eyes should be something players seek when they want to improve their hunting efficiency.  MS spawns can be better than others, but they shouldn't gatekeep players from getting Pokemon without spending money.   Saying things like "its ok because you can buy CCs and an term MS from other players" is not a fix, its a band-aid to an already failing system.    Especially seeing how SMS,MS, and large MS (and bms) all got price hikes its getting harder and harder to justify paying money to support the server and getting something cool in-game as a return for helping out.

 

To improve MS is to improve the satisfaction of players and letting them feel better about spending 5-10USD on MS to help them hunt pokemon they want to get.

If anyone else has similar spawns that seem predatory in their nature like MS locked only or Native spawns locked behind ms found in event areas/later areas feel free to post them below to spread awareness on this topic.

 

Thank you.

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There have been other cases as well since the MS price increased.

3 examples are: alomarowak.png.9fb4241f8ee7a98e08b9d87402e30309.pnglarvesta.png.b037a64485003d9b5ff1dca955214a59.pngmimkyu.png.ddfcf591eb0f9c86fa4ee0084368d835.png

- I personally do not count 20min Bug Catching Contest or Shadow Area as an actual "hunting" spot for larvesta, that's why I include it into those examples.
- The non-MS spawns in those screenshots are event spawns from events which haven't been up since the MS price change, therefore haven't been changed yet.

All 3 of them are event exclusive Pokemon, outside of Outbreaks (lmao). The fact that players are forced to buy MS, during an EVENT just to hunt EVENT EXCLUSIVE pokemon, which also got a new form, is an insanely bad idea. Currently MS' price isn't worth the value it provides.
Locking already pretty exclusive Pokemon behind a "paywall" is clearly going in the wrong direction.

I'm positive that Hoenn/Sinnoh will have their native MS-only spawns updated too at some point, since we already got Kanto/Johto updated as of recently regarding such spawns.

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