what's going on with PRO?

[Raika]

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- They implemented Gen 9 with an incomplete Gen 7.

What's the issue with that? PRO is PRO, there's no correct way to update or release content into the game. Viewing it from a non-competitive standpoint, if they released Chien-Pao tomorrow, would that be wrong? 

 

 

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- There's a lack of moves for Pokémon, both Gen 7 and Gen 9.

- Why can't we evolve Pokémon into their regional forms? (It could be a quick event like WQ or OTB so we can capture or evolve our Pokémon into their regional forms.)

- Many items are missing, as well as more detailed descriptions of some.

Why is there a need to rush things and release them all? Isn't that worse for what you said the player retention was? Besides PRO is its own game.

 

 

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- They promise and announce a lot, like a Mudkip skin today. But as we've seen in the last few announcements, the only thing that actually arrived was Summer Island (very late, and I hope it doesn't interfere with the upcoming events).

Yeah sure I think form teases can be toned down a bit, but does it really affect you that much? Wally's probably just as excited as we are, or at least the people who like forms, to release new ones and he might just want to show them off. Look at it differently, instead of assuming his form posts are update posts, think of them as trailers, does that make sense?

 

 

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- MS (Membership) is simply a very average item, something I can occasionally go without for a long time, since there aren't enough or even decent benefits for it. Honestly, I feel like I'm being left behind.

I don't understand your point here. Are you saying more things should be Membership exclusive? Membership should give more bonuses? Is it not a bad thing to give MS more bonuses to the point that everyone needs it? 

 

 

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really, the question remains... even the game's content creators are failing... there's nothing left to do other than A+D+RUN or throw the pokeball... little by little the game is becoming empty, leaving only the veterans with more than 5 thousand hours...

That's on them. There will always be something to make content out of. Trust me.

 

 

 

Edited 15 hours ago by Raika

[Tgbnamish]

I am not reading your whole essay but just want to convey something from my point of view.PRO is a fanmade game and the staffs working here does not get paid and besides they have work in real life too.If something is not implemented doesn't mean it never be released.I saw you conveying hateful messages 2-3 years ago so if you hate this game so nuch why not leave it?

[Psytron]

After spending 800 hours in game, I found myself taking a break from PRO for quite a few months. I returned for the summer update, but form catching isn't my thing. What would be most reinvigorating would be the release of the remaining Pokémon not currently available. Quality of life improvements and events are nice, but the basic element of huntable Pokémon is most important imo. 

[Keita]

 

https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/249807-what-is-the-future-of-the-game-flopped/

 

 

 

 

[Jhonvga]

5 hours ago, Raika said:

What's the issue with that? PRO is PRO, there's no correct way to update or release content into the game. Viewing it from a non-competitive standpoint, if they released Chien-Pao tomorrow, would that be wrong? 

 

 

Why is there a need to rush things and release them all? Isn't that worse for what you said the player retention was? Besides PRO is its own game.

 

 

Yeah sure I think form teases can be toned down a bit, but does it really affect you that much? Wally's probably just as excited as we are, or at least the people who like forms, to release new ones and he might just want to show them off. Look at it differently, instead of assuming his form posts are update posts, think of them as trailers, does that make sense?

 

 

I don't understand your point here. Are you saying more things should be Membership exclusive? Membership should give more bonuses? Is it not a bad thing to give MS more bonuses to the point that everyone needs it? 

 

 

That's on them. There will always be something to make content out of. Trust me.

 

 

 

It wouldn't be a problem at all, it would be great. But the lack of new Pokémon exists and that's a fact....

 

Rush? Am I rushing? I didn't quite understand. What I said was a fact. We were in Gen 7, and they implemented Gen 9 without completing Gen 7... And I believe we all know that PRO is a separate game made by a small team... But as I said, it's a fact that they just threw us Gen 9 without really exploring a new environment in PRO with the complete Gen 7 dex... A lot of content wasn't generated, and we don't even know if it will ever come to the game... Today, out of nowhere, a Wooper Paldea skin was announced. Like, lol, Wooper Paldea, like I said, we don't even have Gen 7. But if it arrives, I'd definitely be happy, as long as it doesn't require a ridiculous quest/DG to acquire it...

 

Some teasers actually make sense... But it doesn't make sense to have any announcements or sneak peeks/previews of things that will be implemented well in the future (a very long timeframe). It would be more lucid to just announce that they are working on improvements, and showing the previews closer to the release date makes more sense. It's not like releasing something new and having to wait days, weeks, months, or years (as in the case of Astrella) for something. There are things that seem to be myths within PRO.

 

I'm saying that MS doesn't justify using it. The vast majority of Pokémon, perhaps 50-60-70%, that can be obtained through MS are only for dex. And their benefits are very weak. Access to Sevil Island should be free to all players, for example, since there's literally nothing there. You go once or twice and never go back. It could double the amount of money earned, for example, with a boost in skins/shiny parts, even if it's just 1%. A higher chance of rare encounters appearing, among other things... The current benefits are very weak. They were good a few years ago, but as time goes by, they're no longer necessary.

 

Of course I believe in you, as I said to another player, PRO has the potential to be the BEST online Pokemon game. But abandoned like this... difficult. But I still believe in the Devs

 

[Jhonvga]

5 hours ago, Tgbnamish said:

I am not reading your whole essay but just want to convey something from my point of view.PRO is a fanmade game and the staffs working here does not get paid and besides they have work in real life too.If something is not implemented doesn't mean it never be released.I saw you conveying hateful messages 2-3 years ago so if you hate this game so nuch why not leave it?

Again, this talk about how they're working (I think any average adult knows this), the team is small (the game's results prove it), and it'll never be released (there are things that really weren't xd). And where did I say I hate the game? The focus of the debate has always been on the PRO's critical weaknesses, simple things that could be improved but are overlooked. I love the game, I literally grew up playing it, and it has a lot of potential, but the honest feeling I have is that it's been pretty neglected. And this is by far the game's worst year. It's sad to see this, because with this game I made friends, we have shared experiences, and everything that has been provided through this game is incredible.

[Jhonvga]

5 hours ago, Psytron said:

After spending 800 hours in game, I found myself taking a break from PRO for quite a few months. I returned for the summer update, but form catching isn't my thing. What would be most reinvigorating would be the release of the remaining Pokémon not currently available. Quality of life improvements and events are nice, but the basic element of huntable Pokémon is most important imo. 

Indeed, the basic element of Pokémon is hunting, the skins have their audience, I've had several and I've done many form hunts and shiny hunts. But the lack of new spots/areas and new Pokémon from past generations is sorely missed, for example, if you want a Voltorb/Growlithe Hisui you have to do a DUNGEON, MAN, A DUNGEON! Wouldn't it be easier to just release a spot for them? Anyway, I agree with you 100%. And I hope you don't abandon the game, it has a lot of potential.

[Jhonvga]

44 minutes ago, Shinohara said:

 

https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/249807-what-is-the-future-of-the-game-flopped/

 

 

 

 

Hello my fan, long time no see, how are you? I hope you're doing well. Apparently you have some hurt feelings in your heart; it even reminded me of the other post XD. Calm down, the goal will never be hate, just a healthy debate with the community about the game. Debates like this should happen because the general opinion is always important. It's even good for you to know if you're making wise and correct decisions At least you were respectful to me and always have been. As for your friend eaty... "totally meaningless post" pretty arrogant, isn't it? Anyway, I understand him and don't judge him. I hope you follow other players' feedback in your free time, because I believe it's important. Otherwise, have a great day

 

and I loved the goat gif hahahaha. Next time I'll respond to your gifs with Brazilian memes XD

[Agresivity]

Im going to give my point of view from a player that left on 2020.

When i came back i felt like lost since i didnt even know about all the new stuff, now that im getting more used to and i keep finding new pokemons or moves or things like dungeons i get more and more excited, i might understand for a player that plays EVERYDAY for several hours that maybe you dont get the excitment you used to get before, but that happens with all, not only PRO, abusing a game always makes this.

So my conclusion would be that theres doing a lot of things and trying, you can think is wrong or right, buy they're trying and thats what we should look at not at the other things they dont, this year summer event got delayed a bit, i know for sure they will try to reward or make it better for the next upcoming event but you dont need to be on a bad mentality of what is comming or what didnt come.

Greetings from Agresivity

Edited 4 hours ago by Agresivity

[Heroofthestreet]

6 hours ago, Jhonvga said:

Again, this talk about how they're working (I think any average adult knows this), the team is small (the game's results prove it), and it'll never be released (there are things that really weren't xd). And where did I say I hate the game? The focus of the debate has always been on the PRO's critical weaknesses, simple things that could be improved but are overlooked. I love the game, I literally grew up playing it, and it has a lot of potential, but the honest feeling I have is that it's been pretty neglected. And this is by far the game's worst year. It's sad to see this, because with this game I made friends, we have shared experiences, and everything that has been provided through this game is incredible.

If something is arrogant and disrespectful, it is you zealously claiming how this is the "game's worst year by far", as it is some sort of undeniable truth. I will tell you something; I, as mainly a PvPer, left the game on the beginning of January 2022. I came back this year in February when the new big PvP reward system was added to the game. Many inactive players have followed up and we got one of the best years in PvP this game has ever had. Plenty of new rewards, more incentive for inactive players to return, as well as for casual PvPers or PvErs to start playing PvP more frequently. More moves, mechanics and Pokemon added to the game. Overall the amount of played PvP matches has at least doubled. Do I need to say anything more about this? 

On the other hand, I can agree with you about the wrong priorities the staff team sometimes has and I would like to add how I really dislike their inability (or unwillingness) to adapt or be more flexible regarding some things. To be more specific, something like adding spawns for all Gen 7 Pokemon to the game after knowing that Astrella, for which those spawns were originally intended, won't hit the surface for who knows how many more years (and we have already been waiting for 8). An another example would be what you already brought up; the miss out on the Summer event this year because of a Box rework. If it was known that the Box rework won't happen in time, why didn't they just go live through with the Summer event and its new event forms? Then again, there are some factors I am unaware of, such as maybe that they tied up the game's events directly to the Box update rework, so if they would do something like this, it would eventually just make them spend even more unnecessary time on it. I don't know really. If that isn't the case, I honestly can't see any other good reason for it. Anyway, keep in mind that this is a fanmade game, without any employees being paid up for their work. As such, as frustrating as it sometimes is, it is inevitable that there will be a lot of delays on future content