with confuse not being 50% hit/50% miss and dazzling gleam not available as tm, there is almost 0 counterplay to it, just a few rarely seen pokemon such as gardevoir

 

luck is no counteplay

 

what do u guys think?

I don't think it should be banned but the mechanics of confuse ray should definitely be looked into.

277662 I don't think it should be banned but the mechanics of confuse ray should definitely be looked into.

 

Well put.

Yeah, no need, have others more important to atention

277668 Yeah, no need, have others more important to atention

whats on your list?

277669

277668 Yeah, no need, have others more important to atention

whats on your list?

 

I do not have a list, and there are already several topics of discussion about it. Shadow Tag is one of them, the lack of some items is another .. abilitys, buggy moves, lack of moves in various pokes, among others ... This all affects PvP. But this is not the place for it, so it remains to wait an hour is cool.

Only once my Salamence did one shot a Sableye after using it's lum berry on the confuse ray, just once :Cry:

I'd rather suggest to code magic bounce ability

when magic bounce is coded, problem solved :D

mh, I dont see any good suggestion for now "if this is coded" or "otherthings are more important" but still its a prbolem in the yellow serve rn dont know about blue/red

 

I am already running 4/6 pokemon with lumberries, I have to be very lucky with some freeze moves to beat it or not be confused 2 times in a row