Upcoming patch discussion

[Idkup]

Re: Upcoming updates DRAMA [POLL]

 

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actually the odds are (1/31)*(1/31) since we're talking about two slots and yeah i'm aware the calcs are not 100% accurate but still not too far from reality i think since locking 5 to just reroll one is just more expensive<br/>

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True, but it's still wasn't requested by anyone and came out of nowhere, I mean the time spent working on that could have gone to adding more abilities and moves and fixing things like Baton pass and such, people would donate to get Ms and such so they could grind more and not get bored quickly. Add this and what will happen? rich people will pay then get bored and eventually quit and everything will die. The new game will be made but what? nobody will play because it's from the same person who ruined their last one... The pokemon community even if large not all people know about mmo's on the Internet so it will mostly be the same people.<br/>

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Well i agree with that but i just think that ivs reroll will be Nothing more than a dead feature and that's what i'm trying to explain here that's all<br/>

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Isn't adding a dead feature that does nothing but get money (which it isn't) kind of a scam and a bad direction for the game?</r>

[Chameleon]

Re: Upcoming updates DRAMA [POLL]

 

<r><QUOTE author="Frrf" post_id="382602" time="1494081284" user_id="962988"><s>

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Just gonna post this here because i think many people are just overreacting on the reroll thingy. <br/>

let's say you got extremely lucky and got already 4 ivs 31 then you need to lock them and reroll the two others. That in itself costs 68 coins. Then the odds of getting 31 twice with one reroll are 0.001 so to have 25% odds of getting the last two 31s you'd need an average of 24000 rerolls which equals to 1633700 coins which amounts to about 82000$<br/>

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So yeah reroll to get better ivs is still not as viable as hunting imo.<br/>

Feel free to disagree and react with concrete arguments if you want a debate <E>:Smile:</E><br/>

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but...<br/>

When you lock 4, you reroll 2. You're rolling 2x 31 sided dies basically. So getting a 31 in EITHER of the two is 1/16. (1-(30/31)^2=61/961=1/16)<br/>

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Let's say you're not lucky, nor unlucky and you get a 31 in one of the 2 slots in 16 tries.<br/>

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16x68 = 1,088<br/>

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Now you have one IV to reroll. Lock 5 at the cost of 60c, 20c per reroll, 80c in total. The chance is 1/31 so:<br/>

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31x80 = 2,480<br/>

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Add up. <br/>

2,480 + 1,088 = 3,568 coins. Let's say 3.6k coins.<br/>

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That's 36x100 coins = $180<br/>

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You spend $180 to fix your 4 IV Pokemon considering you're not unlucky nor lucky.<br/>

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Again, correct me if I'm wrong but I'm fairly sure this is the right way to do it.</r>

[Chameleon]

Re: Upcoming updates DRAMA [POLL]

 

<r><QUOTE author="Frrf" post_id="382613" time="1494082205" user_id="962988"><s>

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actually the odds are (1/31)*(1/31) since we're talking about two slots and yeah i'm aware the calcs are not 100% accurate but still not too far from reality i think since locking 5 to just reroll one is just more expensive<br/>

and lastly ivs are not the only thing that matter when you pvp <E>:Grin:</E><br/>

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The odds are (1/31)*(1/31) only if you're calculating it like this: "Given that the first roll is not 31, the other roll is 31".</r>

[Mestrepokemon]

Re: New upcoming patch analysis: Stop Useless DRAMA

 

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<QUOTE author="Shane" post_id="382582" time="1494078442" user_id="2"><s>

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this is like.. 1% of the updates coming. Please wait for lots more ^^<br/>

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<GLOW glow="red"><s>[glow=red]</s>Also haven't made a 100% decision on the IV reset thing yet.<e>[/glow]</e></GLOW><br/>

Although it costs 20 for a normal reroll, and then add 12 more for each IV you lock.<br/>

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I put all the discussions about the upcoming patch together, future threads will be deleted, so post in here

[Sitzei]

Re: New upcoming patch analysis: Stop Useless DRAMA

 

<t>merged everything here and we lost the vote poll [mention]Shane[/mention]</t>

[Frrf]

Re: Upcoming updates DRAMA [POLL]

 

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<QUOTE author="Frrf" post_id="382602" time="1494081284" user_id="962988"><s>

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Just gonna post this here because i think many people are just overreacting on the reroll thingy. <br/>

let's say you got extremely lucky and got already 4 ivs 31 then you need to lock them and reroll the two others. That in itself costs 68 coins. Then the odds of getting 31 twice with one reroll are 0.001 so to have 25% odds of getting the last two 31s you'd need an average of 24000 rerolls which equals to 1633700 coins which amounts to about 82000$<br/>

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So yeah reroll to get better ivs is still not as viable as hunting imo.<br/>

Feel free to disagree and react with concrete arguments if you want a debate <E>:Smile:</E><br/>

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but...<br/>

When you lock 4, you reroll 2. You're rolling 2x 31 sided dies basically. So getting a 31 in EITHER of the two is 1/16. (1-(30/31)^2=61/961=1/16)<br/>

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Let's say you're not lucky, nor unlucky and you get a 31 in one of the 2 slots in 16 tries.<br/>

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16x68 = 1,088<br/>

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Now you have one IV to reroll. Lock 5 at the cost of 60c, 20c per reroll, 80c in total. The chance is 1/31 so:<br/>

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31x80 = 2,480<br/>

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Add up. <br/>

2,480 + 1,088 = 3,568 coins. Let's say 3.6k coins.<br/>

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That's 36x100 coins = $180<br/>

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You spend $180 to fix your 4 IV Pokemon considering you're not unlucky nor lucky.<br/>

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Again, correct me if I'm wrong but I'm fairly sure this is the right way to do it.<br/>

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Oh yeah well i might have made a mistake but it's still not really economicaly viable since that's just for one poke. And with 180$ you could make around 16m so pretty sure you can get two epics with that</r>

[Idkup]

I have the final results i believe, 256 against, 14 don't care, 25 for

[Chameleon]

Re: Upcoming updates DRAMA [POLL]

 

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Oh yeah well i might have made a mistake but it's still not really economicaly viable since that's just for one poke. And with 180$ you could make around 16m so pretty sure you can get two epics with that<br/>

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Viable is a relative term. You could be earning 5k a month, I could be earning 25k a month and could justify spending $180 for a Pokemon. In the end, it still is p2w.</r>

[Frrf]

Re: Upcoming updates DRAMA [POLL]

 

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actually the odds are (1/31)*(1/31) since we're talking about two slots and yeah i'm aware the calcs are not 100% accurate but still not too far from reality i think since locking 5 to just reroll one is just more expensive<br/>

and lastly ivs are not the only thing that matter when you pvp <E>:Grin:</E><br/>

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The odds are (1/31)*(1/31) only if you're calculating it like this: "Given that the first roll is not 31, the other roll is 31".<br/>

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Yeah those odds are the ones of getting 31 at the same time my bad. Not a huge fan of probabilities xD</r>