Bigdanny

u don't get the point first, i complain it not because i can't deal with it i complain it just because it overpower and make some others offensive pokemon has no chances to show up "if i can use talonflame why do i have to use other offensive pokemons ?" it just make the pvp monotone and boring as someone who plays almost all tier of smogon and have decent knowledge about it talonflame is not "Overpowered", you need to get some competitive experience first then open your mouth. Gale wings is a decent ability and talonflame resides in OU and OU uses tons of offensive pokemon other than talonflame. Talonflame is a good poke but nowhere near broke got that ? so you need to get yr facts checked beforehand. i said PRO is different from other pokemon games does other games have so many pokemons, abilities, moves, items unavailabe or uncoded ?? have u ever seen so many talonflames in pvp in other pokemon games ?? think about the question :Cool:

talonfalme is not like other ms-pokemons that we can farm easily i spent two weeks and no h.a one the only way to get one is pay tons of money to buy one it's ridiculous Cry on 1 post only bro :Frown: don't cry kido, go find ur mom :Angel:

people always complain about the monotone of pvp, always the same pokemons, always talonflame and just don't want to ban some overpower pokemons and make other pokemons have more chance to show up in pvp Bro! People always complain about s.th becoz they can't deal with that problem. But nothing is impossible, always has a solution for any problem. And u can get the solution or not is depend on ur thinking. Game for relaxing, not for crying or being angry :Angel: u don't get the point first, i complain it not because i can't deal with it i complain it just because it overpower and make some others offensive pokemon has no chances to show up "if i can use talonflame why do i have to use other offensive pokemons ?" it just make the pvp monotone and boring

if someone pay tons of money to buy an epic garchomp, dragonite i would not say anything because we can farm garchomp, dragonite but talon is different, we can't farm talonflame easily the only way is to pay tons of $$ to get one pretty sure no matter how many crybaby arguments you make talonflame or any other poke won't be banned without a solid reason and your argument is pretty weak to begin with. i dont see any point in ur reply, oh yea, u got a talon in ur pvp team haha

Its like u put the words out of my head and wrote them down. :Heart: +1! Like its ridiculous to claim a ban of any pokemon cause u dont put the effort and TIME in catching a talonflame gw or h.a. extremely rare like gothita or sableeye, or skrelp etc. So if u put the effort and money into headbutting, some ppl might thing those earned to got this poke and use it for them. Its not like with legendaries (suicune), which arent able to get on your own. talonfalme is not like other ms-pokemons that we can farm easily i spent two weeks and no h.a one the only way to get one is pay tons of money to buy one it's ridiculous

So, if someone has more money than you and he buys the Pokemon you want, it is also pay to win? if someone pay tons of money to buy an epic garchomp, dragonite i would not say anything because we can farm garchomp, dragonite but talon is different, we can't farm talonflame easily the only way is to pay tons of $$ to get one

for me, it's just pay to win Okay, then it's ur problem bro :Smile: relax, take some rest and think the way to get an epic h.a talon if U think it's OP :Angel: people always complain about the monotone of pvp, always the same pokemons, always talonflame and just don't want to ban some overpower pokemons and make other pokemons have more chance to show up in pvp

That is not pay to win, its called trading. That's it :devil: for me, it's just pay to win

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Where's checked pkm? where's +2 priority Extreme Speed? is there so many pokemons with extreme speed? only draongite, arcanine, lucario there is a issue that we can not obtain gale wings talonflame easily so those who have nice h.a talonflame can always have advantages when they play pvp if everyone can farm fletching like ms-pokemons, i would not suggest banning talonflame anymore The question is: if u have an epic/god gale wings Talonflame, will u ask for banning it? Lol. I dont see any competitive advantages when s.o has nice h.a talon in their team at all. Dont suggest something that only u can't deal with it bro :Smile: the better question is that is it easy to get a h.a talonflame ?? or just pay tons of money to get a talonflame pay to win huh ??

i kinda agree with u and kinda not aggree with u , pro is very different from other pokemon games, there are still many items, abilities, moves uncoded so it just doesn't need to follow the rules of smogan and of course i say banning gales talonflame, why not ban it ?? every pokemon has its counter, of course talon flame has it's counter u may think it's easy to deal with talonflame, just prepare stealth rock, rock type pokemons yes those are all it's counter choice. but the point is that if ur enemy switch talonflame on, the only pokemon u can choose to switch on is bulky one u will never want to switch other offensive pokemons on, cuz there is no focus sash and u know u would always get one-shot by brave bird even worse when talonflame has used sword dance, ur bulky pokemons stand a chance to be 2hko by talonflame after one sword dance it can one-shot my azumarill with 400 hp and if i don't bring on bulky pokemon that can one-shot talon flame, it can still use roost to heal itself and kill my bulky pokemon if talonflame is that easy to counter, then there will not be so many talonflames in pvp as i say pro is very different from other pokemon games have u ever seen so many talonflames in pvp in other pokemon games ??? it's so ridiculous that people saying don't ban talonflame just because they got an epic talon in their team and not banning gothita just because they got a gothita in their team.

ok, my last reply, there is a issue that we can not obtain gale wings talonflame easily so those who have nice h.a talonflame can always have advantages when they play pvp if everyone can farm fletching like ms-pokemons, i would not suggest banning talonflame anymore

i didn't say it's other people's fault for using it, i just suggest banning gale wings before focus sash becoming more available. or pvp will always has tons of talonflames and make it boring. i just want to make pvp more interesting and exciting. So you choose not to run something w/ Rock Slide and is a bulky ground/rock type? Nice! u just don't know what i mean, every pokemon has it's counter pokemon, ofc rock type pokemons can check talon but the point is talonflame can easily check almost all the other offensive pokemons i mentioned before if u don't switch out u die, u switch out then talon can still choose to use sword dance or roost talonflame can be a nightmare to almost all the other offensive pokemons

bulky pokemons are sure to block invasive pokemons, of course it can check talonflame but talonflame can "always" force other invasive pokemons out easily. that's why i think talonflame op strong team now always become 2~3 tanks + talonflame + dragonite + another pokemon ( maybe starmie or something) if u think talonflame is not op, then just don't use it I don't run talonflame at all, lol. It's not the fault of other players if /you/ don't adapt. i didn't say it's other people's fault for using it, i just suggest banning gale wings before focus sash becoming more available. or pvp will always has tons of talonflames and make it boring. i just want to make pvp more interesting and exciting.

What are you complaining about Talon is easy to check. Setting up a stealth rock alone will chunk most of it's health. Get a bulky water type and talon can't do anything. bulky pokemons are sure to block invasive pokemons, of course it can check talonflame but talonflame can "always" force other invasive pokemons out easily. that's why i think talonflame op strong team now always become 2~3 tanks + talonflame + dragonite + another pokemon ( maybe starmie or something) if u think talonflame is not op, then just don't use it

alright, everyone just gets a gale wings talonflame in the pvp team, pvp so funny haha :Cool:

can we ban "gale wings" or make focus sash more available pls ?? doesn't anyone think "gale wings with fire type" too overpower ?? high priority with high speed, brave bird and sharp beak, roost and would not get burnt as well make it just too strong against many other invasive pkms and can easily force tons of invasive pkms out, like weavile, crawdaunt, breloom, gengar, alakazam, ninetales, honchkrow, staraptor, scizor, machamp, starmie and etc. even though u want to use priority moves, like aqua jet, ice shard, mach punch, sucker punch, it's almost impossible to outspeed talonflame and u will easily get one-shot by brave bird. if it's not that overpower then why almost everyone has a talonflame in their pvp team ?? one of the main reason is that we can not obtain focus sash easily, there are many pkms need focus sash to against gale wings talonflame. so i sincerely recommend banning "gale wins" before focus sash becoming more available, it will make pvp more balanced and interesting.

i know it's not very rare in trainer's valley but all we want is "gale wings" just like staraptor, all we want is reckless it's really hard to find a gales wings one and it's almost impossible to find a "good" h.a fletching that's why even normal gales wings one can sell tongs of money btw no one cares about the 3 monkeys, no one uses those monkeys in their pvp team people go to trainer's valley just because fletching and Scyther and these two pokemons are very popular in pvp

i spent almost two weeks and i didn't even find a h.a one People use talonflame just because "gale wings" since it's so useful and popular, i really think it should be more normal don't forget, we have to pay 15k each time we entering trainer's valley and more often we spend 15k and not even find a fletching it's really depressing :Nervous:

Can we make talonflame(fletching) more normal ?? talonflame is a very strong pkm in pvp expecially h.a(gale wings) one can strongly force some invasive pokemons out after them using some moves like sword dance/calm mind so it's really a useful and popular pokemon in pvp but we can only catch it by headbutting trees in trainer's valley it's all about the luck to find a good h.a talon flame and if we want to buy it, even a normal gales wings one costs a lot can u make talonflame(fletching) more normal just like MS-only pokemon in grass ?? and we can hunt in and farm it

if i can permit, that move is supposed to work like that isn't it? the move has a negative priority and only hits when the poke using it isn't hit in the same turn : A -> poke using focus punch ; B -> opposite poke A is focusing, B hits with anything, A doesn't launch focus punch A is focusing, B use a statut move, or switch, A launch focus punch all is happening in the same turn. i made a few test (sadly i don't have any records software, but someone else could do it) with pokes who outspeed the focus punch user and pokes with less speed, and the move seems to works properly. Zeloups We'll check this one further, thank you for the report. :) also could u pls check "speed boost" also to see if it is bugged or it just supposed to be like that ? :D: Speed Boost:Speed raises at end of turn. when u switch pkm in, ur pkm will also get hit by enemy's pkm and then end this turn. Is speed boost supposed to be activated when u switch in or not ??

1. i want to know if we can use speed boost if we don't switch pkm out and switch speed boost one in. just switch in the speed boost pkm after the former pkm was dead. i tested, if i switch in speed boost pkm in after the former pkm was dead then the speed boost will not be activated when it switch in. :Smile: 2. if we don't use Stockpile more than 3 times, can we still use it ??

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