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[mention]envymeister[/mention] actually Mapple confirmed it already; I dont know why it wasn't put forward.

[mention]envymeister[/mention] this all requires staff to follow logic though. I mean we didnt get to vote on Gliscor+Defog so yeah..

[mention]ClockSpeed[/mention], nature reset has nothing to do with this discussion. Nature reset if done like the IVs reset will only have an effect on the PVP community and not the rest (rest = lower placed player who can't afford it in a million years)

[mention]envymeister[/mention] putting Tail Glow Phione and Aeroblast Smeargle on that list as well*

[mention]ClockSpeed[/mention], doesn't matter in terms of the precedent. They should be banned by staffs logic.

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[mention]Shuldbdoinhw[/mention] We didn't vote on that explanation, we voted on it not being available in the original games; which is true. I see where you are coming from but the precedent is the same nonetheless. This argument was brought up the most "it's illegal" "it's not possible in the original games". Your version and the version they put in the rules is correct but not something we have voted on. A lot of players voted given the reason that it's not possible in the original games, which makes this a precedent and this will ban Tail Glow on Phione otherwise the entire vote was a fail and we once again voted for nothing.

[mention]Shuldbdoinhw[/mention], does that matter in terms of it being legal or not? I haven't seen a Defog Gliscor in ages, actually I have never seen one since the Defog TM Teacher was implemented and I played more than enough since then. Tail Glow Phione is possible given it is in the Event Move tutor; I don't necessarily agree on banning it because it's legit a trash pokemon but following the logic of the reason why Defog Gliscor was banned as well (on top of Unaware+Softboiled which we voted on), Phione + Tail Glow should be banned and I am looking forward to it being banned otherwise this precedent is worth nothing. It doesn't really matter where Gliscor could learn it, Phione could NEVER learn Tail Glow

[mention]Shuldbdoinhw[/mention], that's why we are asking to ban others moves as well that aren't possible and are just a "PRO" thing. Tail Glow on Phione or Aeroblast on Smeragle

[mention]Shuldbdoinhw[/mention], they banned Gliscor H.A + Defog without letting us vote on it even though they said we will get a vote. It's speaking of experience nothing else. :P

[mention]bladermagician[/mention] given that logic and PRO don't fly together, don't expect anything we have mentioned to be banned.

[mention]Shuldbdoinhw[/mention] those are not "bugged" also a little reminder; "logic" and "PRO" doesn't fit well

Re: Waterfall + Waterabsorb, flintch <t>Can confirm^</t>

Re: ► Boss Guide - updated 22/09/17 - Letrix/Prof. Rowan added - All bosses/rewards/requirements ◄ <r><MENTION><s>[mention]</s>STRATEGIST<e>[/mention]</e></MENTION>, thanks! :) I added it<br/> <br/> <MENTION><s>[mention]</s>Wojti9152<e>[/mention]</e></MENTION>, thanks!</r>

[mention]bladermagician[/mention], that's a story for another day my friend; let's focus on getting stuff banned given the huge precedent we have now! :)

[mention]bladermagician[/mention] hold on mate, you mean they never fixed a bug that I reported 3 1/2 months ago and they never considered banning those combinations? https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=67234

[mention]bladermagician[/mention], flawless logic to ban Clefable+Softboiled 1. There is no second vote on Gliscor H.a + Defog 2. There are no further bans on "illegal" moves on pokemon as I stated in the voting thread and here 3. The reason for the ban is that Clefable H.a + Softboiled isn't possible hence why Gliscor was banned as well, but what about the other illegal moves? Doesn't this set a precedent for all "illegal" moves and moves+ability combinations?

"Towards the Gliscor/Defog case, I will make a new poll towards that case, to have 2 discussions with each topic." Shamac - https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=446284#p446284 The exact reason for the ban is what? Is it because they are not available on them? Smeargle Aeroblast and Tail Glow Phione should have been banned by this logic as well

Hey there [mention]Impairsan[/mention], carlho's guides are mostly well explained and usually have a text form of the important information as well. He did quite a lot of important guides back in the day which are still being used quite often, same as other guides. Regarding a big post of all guides: Main PRO Guides - Heatran Quest added! #pro-useful-links on the PRO Discord Those lists have almost every important guide in it, if there are guides that you think are important and are not stated in there; you can easily ask the creators to add them. Regarding all Boss fights: Snorlax Blissey Rattata Clefable Tangrowth Slowbro You just need those 6 pokemon and you are good to go to sweep 99% of all bosses.

Re: ► Repel trick spawns ~ All known spawns (111 variations in total) [updated 30/09/17] ◄ <r><MENTION><s>[mention]</s>Devilfreakrafi<e>[/mention]</e></MENTION>, no repeltricks in Sinnoh</r>

Re: ► Repel trick spawns ~ All known spawns (111 variations in total) [updated 30/09/17] ◄ <t>added 9 old/new spots</t>

[mention]kboww1011[/mention], Munchlax ~ Land ~ M/D/N ~ Level 23 ~ Love Island Dratini ~ Psyduck, Clamperl, Carvanha, Azurill ~ Surf ~ M/D/N ~ Level 18 ~ Love Island Dratini ~ Psyduck ~ Surf ~ M/D ~ Level 18 ~ Love Island Clamperl ~ Psyduck, Dratini, Carvanha, Azurill ~ Surf ~ N ~ Level 18 ~ Love Island Carvanha ~ Psyduck, Clamperl, Dratini, Azurill ~ Surf ~ N ~ Level 18 ~ Love Island Azurill ~ Psyduck, Clamperl, Carvanha, Dratini ~ Surf ~ N ~ Level 18 ~ Love Island Togepi ~ Munchlax ~ Land ~ M/D ~ Level 18 ~ Love Island Repel trick guide