Guilty until proven

[Madhavxdark]

Hello there, I want to raise my concern about banning people like this!

Before that, I'm just a normal player who wants to know if it's good or bad. 

 

So before making any toxic comment, please think and then reply. I'm happy to read every argument on both sides. 

 

+1 = who don't support banning like this and taking their name 

 

-1 = who supports this type of ban? 

 

 

My views about this! 

 

My friend sent me this picture today.

Some scenarios: 

 

What if some of them are innocent? 

 

- What if someone is using the Quest or Mega Stone service and that service guy is using it?? So it's the player fault or that service guy fault? 

 

 

 

 

=> Why is this not good? 

 

- Public humiliation: some people say they deserve it, but who are we to decide that they did or didn't  they should get at least one chance to prove them? In the appeal center? 

 

- if they are banning people like this to make fear in front of people. So they should do every ban announcement in all chat every time anyone gets banned? 

 

- taking people names and banning them is not right in my opinion. 

 

I am not supporting those guys who really did it. They are just cheaters for me.

 

But if anyone from them gets unbanned? Will they make an announcement in all chat again and say sorry with their name? 

 

Thanks for reading this, and sorry if I said any stupid thing. 

 

Feel free to add your points 

 

 

Thanks 

Regards 

Madhavxdark 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 12 by Madhavxdark

[Samegaki]

-1
As you said, what if they're innocent and mistakenly got banned. They are free to appeal and had a chance to do so to prove their innocence in https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/forum/36-discipline-appeals/. Public bans should be handled carefully, with clear evidence presented to the accused which I think Developers, Staffs, and Security have already compiled through careful monitoring of suspicious activity and irregular movements.

For this scenario you gave,

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- What if someone is using the Quest or Mega Stone service and that service guy is using it?? So it's the player fault or that service guy fault? "

In my opinion, if person A bought a service to person B who used unauthorized software and manage to finish the service intended, got banned or banned early. They should make an appeal to prove that person A bought service from person B, clearly person A must attach evidence that he bought/request service for Developer, staff and security can check the said activity. 

 

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- if they are banning people like this to make fear in front of people. So they should do every ban announcement in all chat every time anyone gets banned? 

It's not that they're trying to instill fear but this is a reminder that the game does not tolerate these kind of behaviour and take advantage of the game. Players are more likely to leave or lose interest if they feel that the game is overrun by cheaters. Banning these players helps preserve the game's integrity and keep its longevity. 

 

Edited August 13 by Samegaki

[Madhavxdark]

Hi, thanks for replying. You got fair points, but I want to add something. 

 

I'm not in support of those people who did it  as I said earlier, they are cheaters, and I love our moderators; they took this matter seriously and banned them.

 

 

 

 

But what about them who didn't? 

 

Many scenarios are there. 

 

• What if they are sharing an account and their friend did it? 

 

• What if the service guy did it? 

 

Is it his fault that he/she trusted that guy and got public shame for no reason? 

 

 

 

 

I am not saying don't ban them for investigation  but at least don't take names in all chats like this. PRO is a small community and ban with their name (their reputation took a toll).. So my point is, if any one of them is innocent and he/she gets unbanned, will they say sorry to him in all chat again? 

 

I'm just against the thing that they took their names in all chat. It's not right, in my opinion. And they should not do it again 

 

 

If I said anything stupid I'm sorry again 

 

Thanks 

Madhavxdark

[Lyn1311]

48 minutes ago, Madhavxdark said:

• What if the service guy did it? 

 

Is it his fault that he/she trusted that guy and got public shame for no reason? 

 

Just my opinion, sharing account is risky move, staff already mention in the rules and its not recommended. If they buy from shabby seller, i mean 50% its buyer's fault.

 

50 minutes ago, Madhavxdark said:

 

I am not saying don't ban them for investigation  but at least don't take names in all chats like this. PRO is a small community and ban with their name (their reputation took a toll).. So my point is, if any one of them is innocent and he/she gets unbanned, will they say sorry to him in all chat again? 

 

I'm just against the thing that they took their names in all chat. It's not right, in my opinion. And they should not do it again 

 

Spoiler

you saying its not right, but you also sharing those sacred names xD

[Alejandrod]

-1

If they are giving you a quest and they cheat with your account, you eat it, next time you do it yourself. You are responsible for your account, if you pass it on to anyone and they do things they shouldn't then don't cry.

 

-2 

You talk about their reputation as if showing their name in the game chat just once would ruin their lives, wake up.

 

-3 

And more that should fall, we would have to see how legal it is to increase the price of some pokemons among friends in the bids for example or those who say they want to buy something from you and use another account to say that that poke is worthless like Acedekiller/crystalpotion

Edited August 13 by Alejandrod

[Madhavxdark]

Thanks for  your replies .  I guess I have nothing else to add if it's right for you all then   I respect that !

 

Again thanks for clearing all my doubt 

 

 

[Titaniaplayz]

11 hours ago, Madhavxdark said:

Hello there, I want to raise my concern about banning people like this!

Before that, I'm just a normal player who wants to know if it's good or bad. 

 

So before making any toxic comment, please think and then reply. I'm happy to read every argument on both sides. 

 

+1 = who don't support banning like this and taking their name 

 

-1 = who supports this type of ban? 

 

 

My views about this! 

 

My friend sent me this picture today.

Some scenarios: 

 

What if some of them are innocent? 

 

- What if someone is using the Quest or Mega Stone service and that service guy is using it?? So it's the player fault or that service guy fault? 

 

 

 

 

=> Why is this not good? 

 

- Public humiliation: some people say they deserve it, but who are we to decide that they did or didn't  they should get at least one chance to prove them? In the appeal center? 

 

- if they are banning people like this to make fear in front of people. So they should do every ban announcement in all chat every time anyone gets banned? 

 

- taking people names and banning them is not right in my opinion. 

 

I am not supporting those guys who really did it. They are just cheaters for me.

 

But if anyone from them gets unbanned? Will they make an announcement in all chat again and say sorry with their name? 

 

Thanks for reading this, and sorry if I said any stupid thing. 

 

Feel free to add your points 

 

 

Thanks 

Regards 

Madhavxdark 

 

 

 

 

my suggestion on this is to change his name to dhruvxrathee @Eaty