List of Pokemon not to be used in ranked battle

[Mrbd]

I agree with Miya on this one, if you're having a problem with gothitelle's shadow tag find a way to shut it down there's many way's out there, for example with a Prankster you could shut it down completely with Taunt Leaving most of it's moves Unable to use due To Prankster you're able to get first move due to it's ability giving you Priority, If you don't have a Prankster get your self a Cottonee or Sableye. Choice is yours but don't complain because you have no idea how to shut down teams. Hope you take this information and enjoy Ranked pvp. :y:

1. Taunt does not work yet.

2. Choice item not in game yet.

3. How could you swicth Prankster when you already get traped?

205672 Then there is Roar/Whirlwind/dragon tail etc.

And gothitelle has kinda move slot-syndrom. So CM/Rest should be clear. So now u can run t-wave/tickle and psyshock and u are done vs any dark type poke cause u are useless. Or u run a coverage move and u getting trouble vs physical attackers.

And im sure there are even more ways to counter her if i start thinking more about it.

 

So i wanna ask: Is there any joy to play a game if u see the blissey and u know this fight might take 2h to finally lose?

 

 

And if gothitelle is that good, all 300+ players confirm they are using her atm? Cause safe win, u just lose vs other gothitelle-teams, right? Rest of the games are ezpz, right?

Staff might have numbers for how often gothitelle is used and blissey is used in pvp and the winrates of them for the past month/2weeks? Would be intersting to know.

 

So guys get your gothitelle and get that top 25 and show us how easy it is.^^

1. How can I "Then there is Roar/Whirlwind/dragon tail etc " if i get traped ?

2. Also for T-wave/tickle ?

3. If you meet a blissey you can still switch and hit hard IF you team have good coverage, but can you do the same with Gothitele?

4.

205672 So guys get your gothitelle and get that top 25 and show us how easy it is.^^

Wait and you will see, if they can find one each person.

[Coop33]

1. Taunt works

2. U can roar/whirlwind etc if u are trapped^^

205713

Wait and you will see, if they can find one each person.

 

+1, im excited to see.

[Mrbd]

So what if my poke traped and it dont have roar/whirlwind or Taunt, such as any of special attack wall?

[Irafayel]

Ok this is getting ridiculous now. First off we are pointlessly arguing here. We have all said what we have to say, its upto staff now.

 

That said, I find more and more ppl just time stalling against me when ever they see gothitelle. Let me make this clear. I am not breaking any rules. By time stalling, you are, and i am not afraid to report and i will go through what ever trouble necessary to do so. You guys can judge me all you want, i have proven my battle credentials over and over by now. I have a pokemon that is strong, it is legal to use, i will use it. Its as simple as that. You break the rules, i will report you.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewOCQpKkw4s&feature=youtu.be

(Sorry didnt realize normal youtube video uploads took sound :|)

[Mrbd]

If you dont mind, im try to make legal to use become illegal to use :Grin:

[Miyamotokenshin]

205725 So what if my poke traped and it dont have roar/whirlwind or Taunt, such as any of special attack wall?

 

Then you lost to, at the time , a superior teamstyle. Simple as that. We all lose games due to that ^^

205735 If you dont mind, im try to make legal to use become illegal to use :Grin:

 

What? Shadow Tag? Because you can't deal with it, just like the rest who complain about it being OP?

 

If that is becoming the common reasoning amongst players... i'm sad for the future of meta-discussion in PRO.

[Likuet]

I disagree with regenerator ban. its the only real counter that prevents speed boost blaziken from stomping all over the meta. We should just wait for choice and orb items.

[Mrbd]

actualy speed boost had been baned due to bug.

[Drayano]

205706

205690 If you have some time to read why shadow tag is broken : https://www.smogon.com/articles/ou-suspect-sableye-shadow-tag

 

^^^^^^

Did u even read the article???

 

Following quotes from the article:

variation but almost always followed a similar makeup of Mega Sableye / Gothitelle / Chansey / Skarmory / Quagsire / Amoonguss. Mega Sableye is the linchpin, as its control over the hazard game enables its teammates to stay healthy and prevents them from being worn down throughout the match. Gothitelle, on the other hand, shuts down some very threatening stallbreakers, such as Clefable and Manaphy, in addition to acting as a general nuisance through use of Trick and Thunder Wave.

 

Ehm, no Mega-Sableeye or Magic Bounce implemented atm.

No Trick implemented.

Other Meta in Pro than showdown.

If Gothitelle had not been a problem before ORAS introduced new Mega Evolutions, then why would it be the biggest problem now? The answer is most likely that Mega Sableye pushed the direction of stallbreakers in such a way that more "Gothitelle-weak" stallbreakers, such as Manaphy, started rising in usage.

 

Additionally, Gothitelle is very limited in the teams it can be used on, and its usage almost exclusively comes on Mega Sableye stall teams.

 

I dont think i need to add smth more.

Other meta in pro than in showdown.

There is of course an argument for Shadow Tag getting banned. Shadow Tag takes away a fundamental aspect of that game, that aspect being switching. Some people believe that taking away what is considered a fundamental aspect of the game should not be allowed in any form. These people also commonly called for a Shadow Tag suspect throughout XY and up to ORAS based on Shadow Tag's "uncompetitive" nature. The Gothitelle family also possesses the unique combination of Shadow Tag and Trick + Choice Scarf, which can lock a check into a boosting move without fail. Several common stallbreakers, such as Manaphy and Clefable, rely on boosting moves to break through bulkier teams, and TrickScarf Gothitelle is a huge deterrent to those stallbreakers setting up.

 

No trick. No Choice Item.

Annyoing for esp NaturalCure/Regenerators it seems to be. I admit shadow tag takes away a fundamental of the game, the switching. But not more unhealty than 2h games cause of switcherino and PP-stalling. I mean pp-stalling, why is there even a possibility for that lol.

My opinion tho.

 

And then there is another big article about MegaSableeye again. So thats it? Did i miss smth.? Thats the reason why gothitelle is banned?

So for the moment i still say, esp after reading this article: Dont ban gothitelle.

I already said that we need to have all pvp items/moves before banning pokemons and/or abollities.

[Coop33]

205741 I disagree with regenerator ban. its the only real counter that prevents speed boost blaziken from stomping all over the meta. We should just wait for choice and orb items.

 

Speed boost is banned atm. But yeah this would be another kind of question when speed boost works properly and protect-tm is obtainable (in case of speed boost blaziken).

 

And yeah i think 99% of the players really would love having choice/orbs items in.;)

 

I already said that we need to have all pvp items/moves before banning pokemons and/or abollities.

 

Then we are on the same level.;) I totally agree.