Ban Amoonguss

[Crokstar]

As the subject is titled i think that PRO isn't prepaired for pokes like amoonguss. it survives an attack puts ur poke to sleep and then switches out regaining its hp in addition absorbing toxic spikes which makes stall even harder to break which in combination with residual dmg like life orb leads to lose with an offensive team since these pokes regain its hp by switching out. Amoonguss puts ur poke 100% chance on sleep which makes things comes worse fighting with a 5v6 scenario leaving u with less oportunities to beat stall.

[Adam]

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[Utsu]

The meta is full of Talonflame / Togekiss, no reason to ban Amoonguss

[Christianh98]

Ban ditto pls too op stop this troll posts pls.

[Prodex]

Mamoswine, garchomp, excadrill, togekiss, talonflame, staraptor, slaking, blaziken, ferrothorn, ... wow ?

-1 :Sing:

[Theakalli]

Mamoswine, garchomp, excadrill, togekiss, talonflame, staraptor, slaking, blaziken, ferrothorn, ... wow ?

-1 :Sing:

 

Since when are Garchomp/excadrill and Slaking (???????) counters to amoonguss?

Also ferrothorn isn't a check,if you have hp fire.

Garchomp/Excadrill gets spored and then amoonguss just wins against them.

Also a funny thing,all of the pokemon you showed can't switch into amoonguss spore.(just ferrothorn)

Togekiss > Spore > Sludge bomb

0 SpA Amoonguss Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Togekiss: 152-180 (40.6 - 48.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Talon > Spore > Sludge bomb

0 SpA Amoonguss Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Talonflame: 114-135 (38.3 - 45.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Mamoswine > Spore > Giga drain

0 SpA Amoonguss Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Mamoswine: 212-252 (58.7 - 69.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Staraptor > spore > sludge bomb

0 SpA Amoonguss Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Staraptor: 127-151 (40.8 - 48.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Blaziken > Spore > Sludge bomb

0 SpA Amoonguss Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Blaziken: 127-150 (42.1 - 49.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Garchomp > Spore > Giga drain

0 SpA Amoonguss Giga Drain vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 82-97 (22.9 - 27%) -- 46.4% chance to 4HKO

(Garchomp can't touch amoonguss.Also he can't set up on it.

Excadrill > Spore > Giga drain

0 SpA Amoonguss Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Excadrill: 102-120 (28.2 - 33.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

4HKO,but Excadrill doesn't touch amoonguss too.

Slaking > Spore > Giga Drain

0 SpA Amoonguss Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Slaking: 120-142 (27.2 - 32.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

(Slaking might be the only one who could deal with amoonguss if it's choice banded.lol.

 

Sure those can deal with amoonguss if no spore,but seriously,you just listed 10 Pokémon that can not switch into amoonguss?

 

Nice counters mate.

 

I ain't saying it should be banned although.Get a goodra.

[Popinsmoke]

how about we ban everything for pvp? 20 of these posts a day now just because you dont have a counter for it in your team? build your team and prepare for something to counter you, it happens, no reason to start a ban for something.

[Prodex]

Mamoswine, garchomp, excadrill, togekiss, talonflame, staraptor, slaking, blaziken, ferrothorn, ... wow ?

-1 :Sing:

 

Since when are Garchomp/excadrill and Slaking (???????) counters to amoonguss?

Also ferrothorn isn't a check,if you have hp fire.

Garchomp/Excadrill gets spored and then amoonguss just wins against them.

Also a funny thing,all of the pokemon you showed can't switch into amoonguss spore.(just ferrothorn)

Togekiss > Spore > Sludge bomb

0 SpA Amoonguss Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Togekiss: 152-180 (40.6 - 48.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Talon > Spore > Sludge bomb

0 SpA Amoonguss Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Talonflame: 114-135 (38.3 - 45.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Mamoswine > Spore > Giga drain

0 SpA Amoonguss Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Mamoswine: 212-252 (58.7 - 69.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Staraptor > spore > sludge bomb

0 SpA Amoonguss Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Staraptor: 127-151 (40.8 - 48.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Blaziken > Spore > Sludge bomb

0 SpA Amoonguss Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Blaziken: 127-150 (42.1 - 49.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Garchomp > Spore > Giga drain

0 SpA Amoonguss Giga Drain vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 82-97 (22.9 - 27%) -- 46.4% chance to 4HKO

(Garchomp can't touch amoonguss.Also he can't set up on it.

Excadrill > Spore > Giga drain

0 SpA Amoonguss Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Excadrill: 102-120 (28.2 - 33.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

4HKO,but Excadrill doesn't touch amoonguss too.

Slaking > Spore > Giga Drain

0 SpA Amoonguss Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Slaking: 120-142 (27.2 - 32.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

(Slaking might be the only one who could deal with amoonguss if it's choice banded.lol.

 

Sure those can deal with amoonguss if no spore,but seriously,you just listed 10 Pokémon that can not switch into amoonguss?

 

Nice counters mate.

 

I ain't saying it should be banned although.Get a goodra.

 

Talon brave bird sharp berk one hit ~

Garchomp and exca cant one hit, alright my wrong ^^

My sla is holding choice band ~

Staraptor jolly reckless choice band + brave bird

Mamoswine maybe can kill among with 1 earthquake (life orb ada), just maybe ^^

Blaziken ada life orb flare blizt one hit ~

Toge usually holds lum berry, and 70% chance to get flinch, also 3 air slash to finish among

Double switch to check hp fire ~

:Sing:

[Bladermagician]

Mamoswine, garchomp, excadrill, togekiss, talonflame, staraptor, slaking, blaziken, ferrothorn, ... wow ?

-1 :Sing:

 

Since when are Garchomp/excadrill and Slaking (???????) counters to amoonguss?

Also ferrothorn isn't a check,if you have hp fire.

Garchomp/Excadrill gets spored and then amoonguss just wins against them.

Also a funny thing,all of the pokemon you showed can't switch into amoonguss spore.(just ferrothorn)

Togekiss > Spore > Sludge bomb

0 SpA Amoonguss Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Togekiss: 152-180 (40.6 - 48.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Talon > Spore > Sludge bomb

0 SpA Amoonguss Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Talonflame: 114-135 (38.3 - 45.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Mamoswine > Spore > Giga drain

0 SpA Amoonguss Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Mamoswine: 212-252 (58.7 - 69.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Staraptor > spore > sludge bomb

0 SpA Amoonguss Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Staraptor: 127-151 (40.8 - 48.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Blaziken > Spore > Sludge bomb

0 SpA Amoonguss Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Blaziken: 127-150 (42.1 - 49.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Garchomp > Spore > Giga drain

0 SpA Amoonguss Giga Drain vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 82-97 (22.9 - 27%) -- 46.4% chance to 4HKO

(Garchomp can't touch amoonguss.Also he can't set up on it.

Excadrill > Spore > Giga drain

0 SpA Amoonguss Giga Drain vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Excadrill: 102-120 (28.2 - 33.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

4HKO,but Excadrill doesn't touch amoonguss too.

Slaking > Spore > Giga Drain

0 SpA Amoonguss Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Slaking: 120-142 (27.2 - 32.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

(Slaking might be the only one who could deal with amoonguss if it's choice banded.lol.

 

Sure those can deal with amoonguss if no spore,but seriously,you just listed 10 Pokémon that can not switch into amoonguss?

 

Nice counters mate.

 

I ain't saying it should be banned although.Get a goodra.

 

Talon brave bird sharp berk one hit ~

Garchomp and exca cant one hit, alright my wrong ^^

My sla is holding choice band ~

Staraptor jolly reckless choice band + brave bird

Mamoswine maybe can kill among with 1 earthquake (life orb ada), just maybe ^^

Blaziken ada life orb flare blizt one hit ~

Toge usually holds lum berry, and 70% chance to get flinch, also 3 air slash to finish among

Double switch to check hp fire ~

:Sing:

 

Mamoswine earthquake does a little over 50% to not even a 252 def Amoonguss...

[Tr3y]

Amoonguss isn't even that good though. It's not like Crawdaunt. :/