Xrevolutionx94 Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 ill run some calcs for you so you can decide one second 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xrevolutionx94 Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 With the regular sets Knockoff, High Jump Kick, Sword dance and blitz. Jellicent switching into a knock off after they know u have it: 252+ Atk Life Orb Blaziken Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Jellicent: 257-304 (63.6 - 75.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252+ Atk Life Orb Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Jellicent: 120-140 (29.7 - 34.6%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers Gyarados: after a Sword dance and intimidate: +1 252+ Atk Life Orb Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Gyarados: 261-308 (78.8 - 93%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock and burn damage Slowbro: +2 252+ Atk Life Orb Blaziken Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro: 385-455 (97.7 - 115.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock Chandelure: +2 252+ Atk Life Orb Blaziken Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Chandelure: 621-733 (237.9 - 280.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO Alolola: +2 252+ Atk Life Orb Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 200 HP / 252+ Def Alomomola: 476-562 (91.3 - 107.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery Azumarill coming into a blaze: 252+ Atk Life Orb Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 92 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 172-203 (47.2 - 55.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Azuma trying to kill blaze: 252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Blaziken: 212-252 (70.4 - 83.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock The fact that if this mon makes a double on another pokemon, nothing will stop it from blowing a pokemon to 50% hp or more/ taking a life. The intimidation of blaziken being able to kill any pokemon in the meta and esp after a sd makes u force sac every mon to it... since when do we want to switchout and let it sd? Now this is why its broken and if lele is introduced paried with blaziken it would legit be an unstoppable force... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iredxy Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 ma friend, plz chandelure, who the fk uses that? azumarill rebo already said one of the only counters, if blaziken runs t-punch gyarados gets blown away, and jellicent with an SD gets blown out either by Knock off or t-punch. so . there is a reason why blaziken is Uber tier. here's the reason- https://www.smogon.com/smog/issue16/featured_pokemon_uber if you have specific cases and do not usually go with those moves I feel that they make many excuses besides the goal is very limited missing many things, I feel that they make excuses to remove a pokemon took a long time and the blaziken have not given me problems :PikaLurk:iRedxy was here . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iredxy Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 With the regular sets Knockoff, High Jump Kick, Sword dance and blitz. Jellicent switching into a knock off after they know u have it: 252+ Atk Life Orb Blaziken Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Jellicent: 257-304 (63.6 - 75.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252+ Atk Life Orb Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Jellicent: 120-140 (29.7 - 34.6%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers Gyarados: after a Sword dance and intimidate: +1 252+ Atk Life Orb Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Gyarados: 261-308 (78.8 - 93%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock and burn damage Slowbro: +2 252+ Atk Life Orb Blaziken Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro: 385-455 (97.7 - 115.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock Chandelure: +2 252+ Atk Life Orb Blaziken Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Chandelure: 621-733 (237.9 - 280.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO Alolola: +2 252+ Atk Life Orb Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 200 HP / 252+ Def Alomomola: 476-562 (91.3 - 107.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery Azumarill coming into a blaze: 252+ Atk Life Orb Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 92 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 172-203 (47.2 - 55.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Azuma trying to kill blaze: 252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Blaziken: 212-252 (70.4 - 83.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock The fact that if this mon makes a double on another pokemon, nothing will stop it from blowing a pokemon to 50% hp or more/ taking a life. The intimidation of blaziken being able to kill any pokemon in the meta and esp after a sd makes u force sac every mon to it... since when do we want to switchout and let it sd? Now this is why its broken and if lele is introduced paried with blaziken it would legit be an unstoppable force... Azul band 252 atk 252 hp :PikaLurk:iRedxy was here . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xrevolutionx94 Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 Azul band 252 atk 252 hp so every team must incrop a azumarill with a band and full hp? do u see why this pokemon is broken or no? also okay grats now its does like 45% and now u about to lock urself into aqua jet on a ferrothorn and after that taking ironbarbs and rockhelm? then do u ever switch back in?!?!?!? bro please is this not evidence enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingofstall Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 +1 I agree, and also that we are in gen 7 Dugtrio is busted now, ban for him too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxmix233 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 +1 from me Many players say that they have no problems with blaziken but they obviously havent come against a well played blaziken paired with a poke that removes its checks and "counters". This thing can sweep rediculously easy and its good against pretty much any style of play. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levu Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 After thinking about it... Banning blaziken is still a bad idea BECAUSE: -cmon guys its not that op/broken like dugtrio or rotom forms -rotom forms are more broken without mold breaker,dugtrio bigger cancer so still -1 1 “People who can’t throw something important away, can never hope to change anything.” – Armin Arlelt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iredxy Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 blaziken is fine your move type fight usually fails have counters band nite ada wins from extreme speed 252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Blaziken: 196-231 (65.1 - 76.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO not to mention that not all the team have blaziken, then you have counters if your move type fight is not 100% accurate why have problems? I see that as exaggeration sword dance to put a clean sword dance is not easy at all you will not always throw a sd and win everything that is in front. when a pokemon beats all of 1 hit if it can be banned but banning a pokemon that needs items and does not beat all of 1 hit should not be banned. if a pokemon is strong in a metagame, it is simply modified 252 Atk Life Orb Adaptability Crawdaunt Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Blaziken: 291-343 (96.6 - 113.9%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO 252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Blaziken: 320-378 (106.3 - 125.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO :PikaLurk:iRedxy was here . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iredxy Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 if you give ban blaziken ban the walls type plant a sableye skarmory and slowbro :PikaLurk:iRedxy was here . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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