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Obviously I don't collect screenshots of everything I've seen, but given that you mentioned yourself that you are annoyed by player-caught epics you must have seen some yourself already. The examples I was able to find quickly include those two Since the tournament rewards aren't wanted banned by anyone I think I can include those too. Gonna sleep now by the way, don't think I've given up if I don't respond to your next post quickly :p

Next to those few things I marked you also said my opinion has no value and started that whole "you're a kid" thing in your first post when you told me to "go play in my room" and "let the adults discuss" - if you don't consider phrases like those to be insults I'd like to inform you that a discussion very similar to this was already held on the official discord and ended up with staff considering them insults.

The Magikarp was an example as you were talking about an "1/300 chance to find the right poke". And I already explained earlier that staffs essentially skip the luck-part needed to catch a near-perfect legendary in exchange for the time they spend on staff-work. If you consider that to be unfair, so be it. You can go on and argue that the staffs get too good of a reward for their work - that might be an absolutely valid point. But in the first post of this thread it is argued that staff pokes are unfair because they are too much of an advantage in PVP - I am disagreeing with that because regular players are running around with near-perfect legendaries aswell but that doesn't seem to bother the thread-opener. Regarding your last point: let's be serious; if a staff had to kill all of the catchable legendaries on purpose as an exchange for his staff rewards, you would still be complaining because those catchable ones are trash in most cases anyways.

First of all you shouldn't start your argumentation by saying other opinions don't have any value. Makes you look rather silly. Also, I am NOT talking about some random dude catching a 6x28+ Magikarp and saying that's equal to a near-perfect Latios. I'm talking about the players that get very lucky on their Latios and end up with 28+ IVs on it. Player-caught legendaries like that exist but nobody is annoyed by them, yet you are annoyed by staff pokes when they literally are the same thing. PS: "Please now you should let the adults discuss together , and go play in your room, imma call you when the dinner will be rdy o/." - Don't talk about being an adult when you're both unable to accept different opinions and can't refrain from insulting others. Different opinions? You stated no opinions. All you have done is try to attack other player's POV and have contributed nothing of value yourself. You say that no one is annoyed by epic Legends but, as I have told you over and over, we have been trying to get rerolls/re catches on legends for a very long time. My opinion is that staff pokes are rivaled in IV-quality by some of the legendary pokes that were caught regularly and thus can't be considered unfair. You somehow manage to keep ignoring that point and instead repeat that I'm "not contributing" - by the way it's rather amusing how you say that to me while Jeremco is literally insulting me and posting one-liners with no actual input - in a discussion topic you should expect others to attack your POV, otherwise a discussion can't really take place. Regarding rerolls and a dislike for good player-caught legendaries: this thread asks for staff poke bans, not for rerolls nor for bans on player-caught legendaries. If it were consistent and asked for bans on good legendaries in general I'd never have brought the contradiction stuff up in the first place since in that case it wouldn't differentiate between staff/regular player on essentially the same pokes anymore.

First of all you shouldn't start your argumentation by saying other opinions don't have any value. Makes you look rather silly. Also, I am NOT talking about some random dude catching a 6x28+ Magikarp and saying that's equal to a near-perfect Latios. I'm talking about the players that get very lucky on their Latios and end up with 28+ IVs on it. Player-caught legendaries like that exist but nobody is annoyed by them, yet you are annoyed by staff pokes when they literally are the same thing. PS: "Please now you should let the adults discuss together , and go play in your room, imma call you when the dinner will be rdy o/." - Don't talk about being an adult when you're both unable to accept different opinions and can't refrain from insulting others.

It is contradictory to allow perfect legendaries obtained for the purpose of gaining an advantage over others for players but not for staffs. This thread is only targeting staff pokes while there are several players that own unfarmable pokes with near-perfect IVs. What you are asking us to ask for is simply absurd and trying to make it look like we are contradicting ourselves all because you can't come up with anything constructive to say. How about this. Let's let staff use whatever non uber mon they want but give it completely random IVs and nature. They should be happy with whatever reward they get since they aren't out to take an advantage in pvp correct? I'm asking you to either ban all "unfair" pokes or none of them. I don't see a reason for making staffs unable to use their epic Latios/Azelf/Heatran/whatever while allowing normal players to use those pokes with similar IVs. Of course only a minority of regular players will obtain legendaries comparable to the ones staffs get but that doesn't matter as long as they do get them. Regarding your suggestion with random IVs: If a super lucky player obtains a near-perfect legendary they are allowed to use it, why should staffs not be allowed to keep using their near-perfect rewards? Essentially the later invest a lot of time into their work to skip the part where they have to be super lucky, but for the end result that doesn't matter. Both get a unique poke of similar strength.

It is not contradictory to not want perfect legendaries obtained for the purpose of gaining an advantage over others. I other staff member have taken mons that are available through unlimited farming and I am perfectly ok with it, if you try to say that is contradictory then you are just plain wrong and we can end the discussion here since you have nothing constructive to add. It is contradictory to allow perfect legendaries obtained for the purpose of gaining an advantage over others for players but not for staffs. This thread is only targeting staff pokes while there are several players that own unfarmable pokes with near-perfect IVs.

Thanks. That's what I've been trying to say the whole time.

My criticism is that you're failing to give us a clear line that is crossed by staff pokes but not by legendaries with similar IVs obtained through catching/tournaments. Why should a staff poke be banned but not a similar version of the very same poke obtained through catching/tournaments? Your main argument is that staff pokes are unfair because of their exclusivity/IVs but that doesn't apply if you allow pokes of similar exclusiveness and strength to run free just because they aren't staff-created. It's contradictory to let one side roam free while the other is banned because they are the exact same thing regarding pvp.

You are implying that staff pokes are an unfair advantage. Yet you don't mind players obtaining the very same kind of pokes - that's what is bothering me. I'm not saying everyone gets them, but there are players who were lucky enough to obtain near-perfect but unfarmable pokes, be it through sheer luck on a boss reward/legendary encounter or through winning a tournament. Those pokes are just as much of an advantage as staff pokes but yet you aren't suggesting to ban them which simply is contradictory. If you are going to ban anything you have to ban both - they are the same thing regarding PVP. Since you insist on banning one but not the other I tried to find a difference between a near-perfect unfarmable poke obtained by a player and a near-perfect staff poke and the only difference I found is in the way they are obtained, which is why I assumed that's whats bothering you. Unless you present to me another difference between those two kinds of pokes and explain why that difference is enough to ban one but not the other, I will consider your request to be unreasonable as it seems to target staff pokes because of an allegedly unfair PVP advantage while ignoring "normal" pokes that grant the very same advantage to their owner. I've been advocating Legendary rerolls and recatches since before you started the game so you should know your stuff before you come in this thread and start putting words into my mouth. Stop making assumptions and get your facts straight. Don't see how the time either of us joined this game matters - even if it did, I actually joined the game just 2 days earlier than you did on my first account ;) Also, I asked you to explain to me what your motivation is for banning staff pokes specifically but not player pokes of similar strength - the "words I put into your mouth" were based on what I found to be the only difference between staff pokes and near-perfect regular pokes. And I don't see why you're bringing up rerolls for legendaries now; if that's all you want why do you insist on staff pokes being banned instead of further advocating rerolls?

We can't hunt perfect Latios, hp fire h.a. Serperior, Heatran, Jirachi, Mew, Celebi, Suicune, Entei, Raikou. You're arguments are wordy but don't bring much weight to them as all you are trying to do is put words into our mouths. We DON'T care how they are obtained BECAUSE staff and tournament winners EARNED them but what we DO care about is the fact that NONE of use can FARM them. Tournament winner's pokemon aren't hand picked to give them an unfair advantage against other players. Staff pokemon are supposed to be a reward for doing good for the community, not something that a player uses to get an edge against the meta. You are implying that staff pokes are an unfair advantage. Yet you don't mind players obtaining the very same kind of pokes - that's what is bothering me. I'm not saying everyone gets them, but there are players who were lucky enough to obtain near-perfect but unfarmable pokes, be it through sheer luck on a boss reward/legendary encounter or through winning a tournament. Those pokes are just as much of an advantage as staff pokes but yet you aren't suggesting to ban them which simply is contradictory. If you are going to ban anything you have to ban both - they are the same thing regarding PVP. Since you insist on banning one but not the other I tried to find a difference between a near-perfect unfarmable poke obtained by a player and a near-perfect staff poke and the only difference I found is in the way they are obtained, which is why I assumed that's whats bothering you. Unless you present to me another difference between those two kinds of pokes and explain why that difference is enough to ban one but not the other, I will consider your request to be unreasonable as it seems to target staff pokes because of an allegedly unfair PVP advantage while ignoring "normal" pokes that grant the very same advantage to their owner.

First of all, your math is plain wrong - you should check things like that before repeating them several times. Staff pokes don't have all 31s but instead have a few 30s/29s/28s sprinkled in; encountering a poke like that in the wild is far more likely than encountering a 6x31 poke. To further better the odds, it should also be considered that for most pokes, one stat is completely irrelevant. A Talonflame will never care about its spatk. Additionally, your answer is only further proving my point: you don't seem to care about players obtaining pokes with similar IVs - you admitted it happens, although rarely - but argue that staff pokes are unfair because of their IVs. This shows that you do not actually care about the staff pokes' IVs but instead are bothered by how they were obtained - that is the only true difference there is between staff pokes and regular pokes with near-perfect IVs; even your point about near-perfect pokes being very rare among players isn't much of a good argument, after all staff pokes only are distributed to a very minor part of the player-base, making them just as rare. Regarding the fact that staffs often obtain legendaries with near-perfect IVs, I would like to ask why you didn't ask for tournament reward pokes or legendaries with great IVs that were caught by players to be banned? A plethora of epic legendaries are roaming around on player accounts and once the current tournament is over, there might even be more. Those legendary pokes don't differ from staff pokes in strength and thus offer just as much of an advantage - yet you do not seem to mind them at all.

You guys target staff generated pokes specifically but don't seem to care about players catching near-perfect pokes or players winning them through the official tournaments held from time to time. The only difference between a near-perfect staff poke and a near-perfect poke caught by a regular player is the way they were obtained; ergo you can't complain about staff pokes because of their IVs solely without also complaining about pokes with similar IVs obtained by regular farming/tournaments - it doesn't make sense since it is literally the same thing. The only difference between staff pokes and regular pokes is the way they are obtained - you argue that it is fair for players to use near-perfect pokes because of their time spent farming. Now staffs obviously don't spend time farming for their staff pokes but they instead spent time making PRO a better game, be it through mapping, dealing with reports, ... etc. Why would the time people spend for farming be worth more than the time staffs spend for staff-work? In conclusion I think that staffs should be allowed to use as many staff-generated pokes as they like - as long as said pokes are available for regular players aswell. I'd like to once again point out that the only difference between staff pokes and regular pokes is the way people obtain them; for both ways a certain amount of time is invested which finally leads me to believe that banning staff pokes based on their IVs while allowing regular pokes with similar IVs is not just plain unfair but simply contradictory.

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Re: Sinnoh Region Hidden Items Guide <t>If you surf south from where the PVP Coin guy is in Canalave, you can find a Big Pearl. Too lazy to add a screenshot right now though :p it's on one of the trees.</t>

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https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=157 Try this. Also add substantial evidence if you really want staffs to work with this.

I can confirm that; on Route 228 the NPC too are reset by a simple relog and they also grant money for every fight.

This tile in particular can't be walked on.

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If you surf on the Valley Windworks map and try to go to route 205 using the water passage, you are teleported to the other end of route 205 and get stuck. Relogging doesn't fix the problem, battling does. I'm not the only player to have experienced this so it should be reproducible.

You pulled a Revo. Gz.