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  1. Re: PvP Results, January 2017

     

    <r>Nice rank Sabrilemarocain congratulations <E>:Grin:</E> . Shoutouts to my boy Cobramk for being one of the best players in the game. Gang gang gang #rank3squad, #maybenexttime, #ggcobramk, #easy. Was a great time, thanks for the opportunity <E>:Grin:</E> .</r>

  2. I believe He said, that your Explanations of Rhyperior are like if he is being OU by Players, and PRO seek to add New stuff (Pokes, Items etc) And not remove what, we already have, since PRO got no interest in your request, that Threat servers No porpouse

     

    What does he mean by "Threat". Sorry I just have no idea what he said lol.

  3. I am sick and tired of seeing people login at the top right of my screen so I decided to delete every person from my friend list. But it didn't freaking work. I still see people logging in and it's honestly driving me insane. I'm literally on the verge of ending my Pokemon career. Please, if you can, help me through these hard times because I don't know what to do. I really would love to be able to login without seeing anybody else login. Thank you. :confused:

  4. Name: Entei

    Current tier: A

    Desired tier: A- / Possibly B+

    Reason: Prevalence of water bulky waters on every team. Suicune, Politoed, and Slowbro to be exact. It just can't do much when these are on the opposing team.

     

    Name: Mandibuzz

    Current tier: B+

    Desired tier: A-

    Reason: Addition of Foul Play

     

    Name: Quagsire

    Current tier: A-

    Desired tier: C+

    Reason: Failure to code Unaware correctly

  5. *I don't want to get a water or grass pokemon to one shot him with his super weak 55spdef and x4weakness not to mention being super slow so let's ban him*

    Lol do you even hear yourself, he has DMG and phys def, he is slow and no def to balance, he doesn't have 120 on all stats.

    By your logic every single pokemon that you don't like and has a diverse move pool should be banned and we would all be left using the same 6 pokes in all the fights.

    Stop being salty and get a counter poke(which you should already have in any decent team since its x4 to grass and water x4!!)

     

    I'm guessing you didn't read the article if you're advising me to get a counter Pokemon when such a thing doesn't even exist. I'm also questioning your credibility when your response to the proposal is stuff like "he has DMG and phys def"... Not one Pokemon exists that can reliably sponge every single one of Rhyperior's attacks and kill it in return. And no, by my logic, every Pokemon that has busted coverage moves, absolutely insane base stats, and perfect offensive typing should be looked at. There isn't a single Pokemon you can mention that even comes close to Rhyperior. Thank you for your contribution to the post though.

  6. -1

     

    I´m AGAINST banning this Pokemon, I had it so many times in PvP and it´s easy to play arround it. It´s like evry other bandet Pokemon, it deals tonns of dmg against switches (Azumarill, Staraptor etc do the same?!Hello? xD) but he´s locked , also EVRY water pokemon in the game outspeed this pokemon and 1HKO it.

     

    I see absolutly NO reason to bann it.

     

    What is Staraptor doing to Skarmory, Doublade, Rhyperior, and Jirachi? What is Azumarill doing to Tangrowth, Amoonguss, Venusaur, Tentacruel, Mew, and Skarmory? The only Pokemon that can even hope to stop Rhyperior is Hippowdon and even that is smacked with Ice Punch or Earthquake. And not every water Pokemon outspeeds Rhyperior. You lost credibility as soon as you said that and for the ones that do outspeed, how are you going to get them in without sacrificing a Pokemon each time. -1 to your post but thank you nonetheless. :y:

     

    Are you srs right now? haha

     

    WHAT is Rhyperior doing against ANY Water Pokemon with more then 119 SPEED? xD Even 200 Sp.ATK on a GRASS/WATER move are enought to 1HKO it

     

    Also u choose Staraptor and name counters to him, same for azu, but what happens if u switch this 2?

     

    You:

     

    " What is Azumarill doing to Tangrowth, Amoonguss, Venusaur, Tentacruel, Mew!"

     

    Staraptor can kill them easly.

     

    U wanna say: But there are counters to this Bandet mons but less for Rhyperior?

     

    Dude, Rhyperior got counters too aswell lol. If u play it Banded and we can predict EQ then : Flying /leviate types also any faster pokemon can 1 or 2 hko him

     

    U request to bann a Rhyperrior because u are winning with it as I saw on youtube?

     

    Nope man, this pokemon IS NOT bann worthy,- no way. I saw u playing it and Im playing competetive since emerald. Like Teerav alrdy asked: "Is this a troll?" +1

     

    I'm very serious. You act as if these water Pokemon are just going to safely come in against Rhyperior. Amoonguss and Tangrowth can safely come in against Azumarill. Starmie, Slowbro, and any other water type Pokemon you name can not safely come in against Rhyperior. That's just like saying Shadow Tag Gothitelle isn't ban worthy because a Bisharp can kill it with Knock Off. It just makes no sense. And I didn't mention anything about my youtube channel so I'm not sure why you are mentioning that. And have fun predicting an Earthquake then taking a banded Stone Edge lol.

  7. -1

     

    I´m AGAINST banning this Pokemon, I had it so many times in PvP and it´s easy to play arround it. It´s like evry other bandet Pokemon, it deals tonns of dmg against switches (Azumarill, Staraptor etc do the same?!Hello? xD) but he´s locked , also EVRY water pokemon in the game outspeed this pokemon and 1HKO it.

     

    I see absolutly NO reason to bann it.

     

    What is Staraptor doing to Skarmory, Doublade, Rhyperior, and Jirachi? What is Azumarill doing to Tangrowth, Amoonguss, Venusaur, Tentacruel, Mew, and Skarmory? The only Pokemon that can even hope to stop Rhyperior is Hippowdon and even that is smacked with Ice Punch or Earthquake. And not every water Pokemon outspeeds Rhyperior. You lost credibility as soon as you said that and for the ones that do outspeed, how are you going to get them in without sacrificing a Pokemon each time. -1 to your post but thank you nonetheless. :y:

  8. Hello,and a good day to all

    I've been a player since 2016 i guess and i've been gone for a long time and now im playing again.i never actually played PVP battle before so im asking a few question if i may

    1.Is there a hold item or berries that are not allowed in PVP?(Leftovers,Black sludge for example)

    2.Is the item stealing move like COVET,THIEF.Allowed?if my pokemon is holding an item and an opponent uses those move then my items are gone permanently?

    3.Is PVP coins deducted everytime i loose?can i get pvp coins before playing pvp?like an entrance fee in the safari?how do i get them,?

    4.is ther a specific level of pokemon allowed in pvp?

    that all and thank you...more power and GodBless to All.

    4.

    1. I'm pretty sure there isn't an item alone that is banned but some items in tandem with a specific moves/abilities are banned.

     

    2. If they aren't on the bannable list then they are allowed. Any move that makes you lose an item in a PvP battle such as Knock Off doesn't result in the permanent loss of the item. But if you consume items such as berries or break Focus Sashes then they are lost forever and you have to obtain more.

     

    3. PvP coins are no deducted every time you lose. I'm pretty sure you can't get PvP coins without PvPing. You get them by winning battles (1 win = 1 coin) and if you obtain rank 25 or higher by the end of the season, you are given PvP coins as a reward.

     

    4. Level 100.

  9. Nah surf and other spatk water attacks are just sweeping it. Even a Serperior with leave storm can easy take it out. When this is getting banned i want blissey to be banned as well same amount of stupid mimimimi.

     

    Switch out...

  10. [glow=red]Well... I'll leave my opinion =]

     

    Firstly, I believe Rhyperior should not be banned. Why? I'm gonna explain with my opinion.

     

    1. Rhyperior's only strengths are his HP and his physical status [HP, ATK (Physical) & DEF (Physical);

     

    2. The PRO metagame, at least in ranked PvP, is OverUsed 6GEN [OU6GEN], and in this meta Rhyperior is RU (Rarely Used tier);

     

    3. Your SPDEF and SPEED are very low (SPDEF: 55 / SPE: 40)

     

    4. Rhyperior has many weaknesses of type, two of them being 4x super effective.

    a) 2x Fighting

    b) 2x Ground

    c) 2x Steel

    d) 2x Ice

    e) 4x Grass

    f) 4x Water

     

    5. Rhyperior, as well as Steelix and Donphan can handle a lot of physical damage ... But it has no sustain of life without leftovers.

     

    6. Rhyperior has a lot of physical damage, but it is so slow that most Pokémon attack first (Even Tangrowth has a speed above Rhyperior and 1 Giga is HK against Rhyperior).

     

    7. Rhyperior has many counters: Chesnaught, Suicune, Poliwrath, Tangrowth, Slowbro, Venusaur, Azumarill, Breloom, Blastoise, Milotic, Serperior, Starmie, Jellicent, Ludicollo, Kingdra, Greninja, Omastar, Kabutops, etc.

     

    8. Rhyperior does nothing against Rain Team users.

     

    9. Just like in smogon's, Rhyperior is rarely used in PRO.

     

    10. There are worse things to be banned, rather than Rhyperior.

     

    Extra: I understand your opinion, everyone has a Pokémon that they hate.

    Blaziken is a Pokémon of the UBER category and is not banned. This Pokémon is for competing against a Reshiram, Kyogre, Mewtwo, among others that fit into the UBER category, then Rhyperior would be far from banned.

     

    Thank you ^-^

    [/glow]

     

    First and foremost, I appreciate your opinion and effort to bring resolution to the issue I brought up. That being said, I will dive into the details:

     

    1. "Only" isn't the correct term I'd use for this because 50% of its base stats are WELL above 100. 60% actually if you take into account how useless its special attacking stat is.

     

    2. Comparisons between Smogon tiers and PRO aren't valid due to how different the two games are. There is much less available to PRO players compared to Smogon so the argument doesn't make sense. Omastar for example is NU on Smogon and it is one of the most effective rain abusers in the game.

     

    3. The special defense is remedied by pairing Rhyperior with Pokemon that can come in against super effective hits. Getting these Pokemon in against Rhyperior is a challenge in itself due to it having no switch ins. And if you somehow manage to get them in, you can easily switch Rhyperior out putting you in a backseat position.

     

    4. Refer to what I said in the article and my response to #3. Rhyperior comfortably survives every hit if it's not x4 super effective then OHKOs with ease. Then you can easily Wish pass to Rhyperior to repeat the process.

     

    5. Wish Pass from Vaporeon or Alomomola or click leech seed on Talonflame then easily go to Rhyperior.

     

    6. Every Rhyperior build runs speed evs to outrun these threats. Having seen your knowledge of Smogon tiers I feel like you should know this.

     

    7. I've covered this in the article. It seems most didn't read the whole thing. None of these Pokemon can safely come into Rhyperiors attacks given the ridiculous coverage moves he's been given.

     

    8. Rain teams usually carry Ferrothorns, Goodra, or any other wall / tank to come in against opposing water type attacks. Once Rhyperior gets in on these you are guaranteed a kill. But after doing this Rhyperior has a tough time so I'll give you this one. But relying on a specific type of team to beat Rhyperior isn't an effective way of beating it.

     

    9.You said the same thing in #2. Please refer to my response to that.

     

    10. This doesn't solve the problem of Rhyperior. Different threads can be opened for those Pokemon but I'd like to focus on Rhyperior.

  11. Nice article. I enjoyed reading it, but it's supa salty.

     

    I'm curious to see what other ideas you have aside from banning this Pokémon.

     

    Same. Some good arguments were used but there is a really heavy salty tone on it

     

    I just came back to the game and haven't played PVP yet, but from my experience battling competitively, Rhyperior hits hard but gets countered hard because of its typing. It is a matter of adapting to it, just like people adapt to all dem Talonflames and Garchomps.

     

    Maybe there is a discussion on it already, but using Smogon's tiers - or atleast using its principles to develop new tiers to PRO - would help. Talonflame and others would belong to OU, for instance. Other players that like to use low-profile pokes (like me) could play in UU or NU.

     

    It is unfortunate that you feel like there is a "really heavy salty tone" to the post but this is not at all the message I am trying to convey. I made sure I started the post off on a positive note to make sure none of you felt as if I was being salty about this Pokemon :Angel: But Talonflame cannot come switch into the battle as easily as Rhyperior due to the omnipresent move called Stealth Rock. Talonflame and Garchomp can also be revenge-killed by common moves such as Ice Shard and Extremespeed while Rhyperior cannot. Rhyperior's typing defensively is not great but if you pair Rhyperior with the correct supportive Pokemon it is just cheat mode. Rhyperior's typing offensively on the other hand is broken. If you look at the calculations I have provided, you can see that nearly every single Pokemon that has a type advantage over Rhyperior dies to its attacks. So you have to sacrifice your entire team in order to effectively beat it which is not an efficient way at beating Rhyperior. I too agree that PRO would benefit from the addition of tiers similar to Smogon. I appreciate your response and I hope you have a great day. :y:

  12. Sorry but cant help to laugh. Dont see any reason whatsoever to ban a pokemon that has a ton of counters avalible. Let me just name a few here.

     

    Slowking,Alomomola,Venusaur,Blastoise,Bronzong,Flygon,Magneton,Medicham,Hitmonlee,Jellicent etc..

     

    Can understand playing the same old comps are fun and all but when the meta shifts this happens.

     

    Did you read the article?

    Slowking: 252+ Atk Choice Band Rhyperior Megahorn vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Slowking: 378-446 (96.1 - 113.4%)

    Instant death from choice band Megahorn

     

    Flygon: 252+ Atk Choice Band Rhyperior Ice Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Flygon: 680-804 (225.9 - 267.1%)

    Flygon's Earthquake doesn't kill Rhyperior in return.

     

    Venusaur: 252+ Atk Choice Band Rhyperior Earthquake vs. 232 HP / 252+ Def Venusaur: 231-273 (64.3 - 76%)

    Easily 2HKOd from any of Rhyperior's attacks. You can then easily switch out against Venusaur and then beat it later.

     

    Blastoise: 252+ Atk Choice Band Rhyperior Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Blastoise: 204-241 (56.3 - 66.5%)

    Same case as Venusaur.

     

    Jellicent: 252+ Atk Choice Band Rhyperior Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 216+ Def Jellicent: 265-313 (65.7 - 77.6%)

    Same case as Venusaur and Blastoise.

     

    Bronzong, Hitmolee, Medicham, and Magneton aren't viable Pokemon in PRO's metagame and you will lose if you use them just to beat a Rhyperior. Alomomola get 2HKO'd after hazards as well.

     

    None of the Pokemon you mentioned here can comfortably beat a Rhyperior. I appreciate your response though.

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