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[Darksun20]

You know what, fine, just delete this thread. But I sware to god if I go into a PvP with stall and receive numerous reports against me and have to explain to staff that I was just playing stall but get punished anyways, You'll be hearing from me about this topic again.

[Anurag2006]

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You just don't know the meaning of playing stall

[Harjawaldar]

PP stalling or switching etc is allowed if its a win condition. This rule is for people that do those things without a reason while they can win without doing it, or have already lost but do it just to be mean. Taking your time to choose a move is obviously allowed as well here and there, but doing it every turn is just unnecessary. This rule doesnt target any playstyle, it targets only people that dont like fair play and would spend 20 extra minutes playing a game that they could win in 1 turn (or pp stall in a game that they have 0 chance of winning) just to annoy their opponent.

[Novus]

I'll be repeating what has been already said here but i'll go ahead anyways:

 

The rule was made in order to prevent players from extending the match beyond of what it should've lasted. Picking moves last second each turn regardless of the insignificance of the action is not something enjoyable and definitely not part of an archetype. We do understand that sometimes decisions can be tough and require deep thought before taking action, thats why we require video evidence for these kind of infractions to determinate if they are indeed time stalling or not.

We as moderation team will have to deny this suggestion as it has no real reason to be implemented. Don't let this discourage you from suggesting stuff you believe would be beneficial to the game though! Best of luck!

[Darksun20]

I'll be repeating what has been already said here but i'll go ahead anyways:

 

The rule was made in order to prevent players from extending the match beyond of what it should've lasted. Picking moves last second each turn regardless of the insignificance of the action is not something enjoyable and definitely not part of an archetype. We do understand that sometimes decisions can be tough and require deep thought before taking action, thats why we require video evidence for these kind of infractions to determinate if they are indeed time stalling or not.

We as moderation team will have to deny this suggestion as it has no real reason to be implemented. Don't let this discourage you from suggesting stuff you believe would be beneficial to the game though! Best of luck!

While the timer part of the rule is understandable, that still doesn't explain the pp stalling part. This rule denies those the ability to drain opponent's pp in order to win if there is no other way. This also impacts the Pressure ability as some mons, namely Suicune, can use this ability to it's greatest potential. So if it comes down to having to pp stall to win, I am forced to forfeit an otherwise winnable match so I don't get punished? how is that fair?

[Darksun20]

If this rule is targeting those actually trolling or abusing the mechanics, then the rule should be clear that "This does not pertrain to the stall playstyle rather the players abusing these mechanics maliciously" Because when someone who first looks at these rules, it's almost uncanny how much it conflicts with the stall playstyle. I haven't touched stall at all because of this rule in fear of getting punished.

[Darksun20]

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You just don't know the meaning of playing stall

You've contributed nothing to this discussion. If you wish to argue with me about this topic then I'd be gald to in the pms. Otherwise leave your toxicity out the door when speaking in forums please.

[Norex]

"PP-stalling: Using moves to unnecessarily extend a matches duration with no proper reasoning such as using healing moves instead of attacking."

 

"Proper reasoning" winning the game is a proper reasoning in my eyes.

[Darksun20]

"PP-stalling: Using moves to unnecessarily extend a matches duration with no proper reasoning such as using healing moves instead of attacking."

 

"Proper reasoning" winning the game is a proper reasoning in my eyes.

I'm still on the fence with this "proper reasoning" I shouldn't have to prove I'm playing stall to the mod just to avoid punishment. Because you know damn well there are people who will get salty playing against stall enough to report.

[Novus]

PP Stall as a win condition is allowed, but lets put this situation so you can visualize why we have it mentioned:

 

You are on your last pokemon, lets say a Ferrothorn. Your opponent has 3 pokemon left, a Charizard, a Chansey and a Ferrothon too. Your Ferrothorn has all its move's PP at full or partially drained due to the usage of the match, and he could easily end it with just the charizard right? Well, instead of that he switches to ferrothorn and starts using his moves in order to drain your PP. Stealth Rocks despite there being stealth rocks in the field (and despite being completly useless in 1v1s), leech seed although you're immune to it, and toxic despite you being a steel type. Then protect despite no real threat or scouting purpose, all of those moves have a high amount of PP before they ran out.

 

You're forced to be stuck in the match for more time than necessary, despite the win already being guaranteed. Be it for foolishness or disrespect, we do not condone this kind of attitude regardless of reason and will rightfully punish it, as long as there's the evidence for us to check. We are not foolish, we can identify when someone is time stalling or securing a win condition. Any more questions?