Ghabra is my favourite person in this community, he must be protected at all costs 

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When you guys think Aegi is to strong and ban it,then you must ban sableye too.

 

Aegi was killable easy 

 

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+1 agree with everything right there.

I am 100% sure that this place is gonna become a place where people just insult each other (stall vs non-stall users) sigh...

 

And about the ban, nope, i don't think it deserves a ban, we have diancie now, whole wave 3. Like always, it doesn't have 1000 hp and 1000 def 1000 spdef bruh.

I've argued a lot on counsil channel about this so no not anymore -1 btw.

(HOW DARE YOU SAY SMTH LIKE THAT ABOUT M. SABLEYE)

 

 

1 hour ago, Anurag2006 said:

I am 100% sure that this place is gonna become a place where people just insult each other (stall vs non-stall users) sigh...

 

And about the ban, nope, i don't think it deserves a ban, we have diancie now, whole wave 3. Like always, it doesn't have 1000 hp and 1000 def 1000 spdef bruh.

I've argued a lot on counsil channel about this so no not anymore -1 btw.

(HOW DARE YOU SAY SMTH LIKE THAT ABOUT M. SABLEYE)

 

 

Could you just name me one mega from wave 3 that counters Mega Sableye that doesn't start with "M" and end in "Awile"?

Let me help you:
Tyranitar: gets Will-O-Wisped and does no damage against recover
Pinsir: gets Will-O-Wisped and does no damage against recover
Aerodactyl: gets Will-O-Wisped and does no damage against recover
Sharpedo: gets Will-O-Wisped and does no damage against recover
Medicham: gets Will-O-Wisped and does no damage against recover
Metagross: gets Will-O-Wisped and does no damage against recover

Now onto the special attackers:
Slowbro: 0 SpA Slowbro-Mega Scald vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Sableye-Mega: 72-85 (23.7 - 28%) -- 89.9% chance to 4HKO (can't toxic spam because magic bounce)

Alakazam (if runs dazzle): 252 SpA Alakazam-Mega Dazzling Gleam vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Sableye-Mega: 144-170 (47.5 - 56.1%) -- 79.3% chance to 2HKO

Manectric: 252 SpA Manectric-Mega Thunderbolt vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Sableye-Mega: 100-118 (33 - 38.9%) -- 99.5% chance to 3HKO

Camerupt: 252+ SpA Sheer Force Camerupt-Mega Fire Blast vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Sableye-Mega: 183-216 (60.3 - 71.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (problem is nobody runs camerupt)

Pidgeot: 252 SpA Pidgeot-Mega Hurricane vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Sableye-Mega: 121-144 (39.9 - 47.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

 

also yea, diancie, a singular pokemon that will be forced to run on everyone's team because it isn't affected by burn, and still super effectives sableye

252 SpA Diancie-Mega Moonblast vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Sableye-Mega: 236-282 (77.8 - 93%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

can't even one shot the careful set, sad

15 minutes ago, g3n3r4l said:

Could you just name me one mega from wave 3 that counters Mega Sableye that doesn't start with "M" and end in "Awile"?

Let me help you:
Tyranitar: gets Will-O-Wisped and does no damage against recover
Pinsir: gets Will-O-Wisped and does no damage against recover
Aerodactyl: gets Will-O-Wisped and does no damage against recover
Sharpedo: gets Will-O-Wisped and does no damage against recover
Medicham: gets Will-O-Wisped and does no damage against recover
Metagross: gets Will-O-Wisped and does no damage against recover

Now onto the special attackers:
Slowbro: 0 SpA Slowbro-Mega Scald vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Sableye-Mega: 72-85 (23.7 - 28%) -- 89.9% chance to 4HKO (can't toxic spam because magic bounce)

Alakazam (if runs dazzle): 252 SpA Alakazam-Mega Dazzling Gleam vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Sableye-Mega: 144-170 (47.5 - 56.1%) -- 79.3% chance to 2HKO

Manectric: 252 SpA Manectric-Mega Thunderbolt vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Sableye-Mega: 100-118 (33 - 38.9%) -- 99.5% chance to 3HKO

Camerupt: 252+ SpA Sheer Force Camerupt-Mega Fire Blast vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Sableye-Mega: 183-216 (60.3 - 71.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (problem is nobody runs camerupt)

Pidgeot: 252 SpA Pidgeot-Mega Hurricane vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Sableye-Mega: 121-144 (39.9 - 47.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

 

also yea, diancie, a singular pokemon that will be forced to run on everyone's team because it isn't affected by burn, and still super effectives sableye

252 SpA Diancie-Mega Moonblast vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Sableye-Mega: 236-282 (77.8 - 93%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

can't even one shot the careful set, sad

In pvp it isn't just like how the calculations go, there are hazards and the gane doesn't end in 1-2 turns m. Sableye can be chipped a little then finished.

"A singular Pokemon that will be forced"

Don't make it sound like its such a bad mon and will be used just to kill sableye. There are switch ins like heatran that can switch into will o wisp.

0 SpA Flash Fire Heatran Magma Storm vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Sableye-Mega: 133-157 (43.8 - 51.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after trapping damage

^ 0 spatk and seeing how people in pro pvp are. Most are just gonna throw in on def kek.

Also there is mega lopunny.

It won't be able to switch into a dazzling alakazam even at full spdef(2hko).

And how leads with mega pinsir when opponent has sableye? Once mega sableye gets off the field it can't switch in. It can even get a free sd and once shot it.

 

 

 

 

3 hours ago, Anurag2006 said:

In pvp it isn't just like how the calculations go, there are hazards and the gane doesn't end in 1-2 turns m. Sableye can be chipped a little then finished.

 

 

 

No offense , but did you even read the post? 

I mentioned that one of the main problems with sableye is how hard it is to get hazards against it and you say chip it down with hazards? And if you would will o wisp as a sableye against a team with a heatran unless you absolutely need to, that is horrible play and you deserve to lose ( assuming magma storms hit in the first place). Heatran absolutely dreads switching on a knock off . And as sableye cannot be taunted or toxicked, it can stay on the field against the heatran and just knock it off to death while the best thing heatran can do is maybe burn it with lava plume.

 

I did not mention mega lopunny because i thought how obviously  it could be handled by the unaware clefable and skarmory on the stall team , but apparently it was not obvious enough for you. Not to mention it cannot switch into sableye in fear of will-o-wisp

252 Atk Lopunny-Mega Return vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Clefable: 153-180 (38.8 - 45.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252 Atk Lopunny-Mega High Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Skarmory: 126-148 (37.7 - 44.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

 

Again , you did not even read the post , mega pinsir cannot switch into sableye in fear of will-o-wisp and is competely walled by skarmory.

 

Mega alakazam with dazzling gleam could be a nice niche but good luck slotting it in , since mega alakazam already wants to slot in so many moves ( hidden power ice/fire , psychic , psyshock  , calm mind , substitute , recover , shadow ball , focus blast ...) 

 

Next time read the post properply before posting nonsense please.

Edited April 20, 20215 yr by Ghabra

I think need ban mega sableye. Is to op. And never 1 sweeper physical k.o. bannnnn!!!

Edited April 20, 20215 yr by FacilSha
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