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PRO PvP Viability Rankings

by @Aggs, @Cyanirl@Jorogumo, and @Pisforpenguin

 

Welcome to the PRO PvP Viability Rankings thread! This thread is maintained by the PvP Coordinator team and will be updated regularly, but we want to hear your thoughts and opinions on both the metagame at large and specific Pokémon. Please understand that viability rankings are fundamentally a subjective matter — and as such, opinions may certainly differ. Please note the following:

  • Usage is not the same as viability. Please do not nominate Pokémon on the grounds that they are frequently used.
  • Be detailed when submitting nominations for changes. It is difficult to convince anyone, us included, to change their mind with a one-liner.
  • All discussion is welcome, especially if you have personal experience laddering with a certain Pokémon for a substantial number of games.
  • Remain civil. While spirited and contentious debate is encouraged, please do not resort to personal attacks.

The following Pokémon are ranked in alphabetical order within each sub-tier:

 

S Rank:

S Rank

clefable.png.m.1733184959Clefable

:landorus-therian: Landorus-T

 

A Rank:

A+ Rank

681Icon.png Aegislash

625.png Bisharp

646Icon.png Kyurem

428-m.png Lopunny-Mega

303-m.png Mawile-Mega

497Icon.png Serperior

:tornadus-therian: Tornadus-T

:zapdos: Zapdos

 

A Rank

719-m.png Diancie-Mega

:Dragonite:Dragonite

:Ferrothorn: Ferrothorn

:garchomp: Garchomp

:heatran: Heatran

:keldeo: Keldeo

:kyurem-black: Kyurem-B

metagross-mega.png.m.1733184959 Metagross-Mega

:tangrowth: Tangrowth

 

A- Rank

alakazam-mega.png.m.1733184959 Alakazam-Mega

979Icon.png Annihilape

:Azumarill: Azumarill

charizard-mega-y.png.m.1733184959 Charizard-Mega-Y

:excadrill: Excadrill

:gliscor: Gliscor

720-u.png Hoopa-U

:Manaphy: Manaphy

38AIcon.png Ninetales-Alola

479AIcon.png Rotom-Wash

scizor-mega.png.m.1733184959 Scizor-Mega

:slowbro: Slowbro

:slowking:Slowking

:thundurus: Thundurus

:victini:Victini

:volcarona: Volcarona

 

B Rank:

B+ Rank

:amoonguss:Amoonguss

806Icon.pngBlacephalon

:chansey:Chansey

charizard-mega-x.png.m.1733184959 Charizard-Mega-X

658Icon.png Greninja

:jirachi:Jirachi

784Icon.png Kommo-o

:latias: Latias

latias-mega.png.m.1733184959 Latias-Mega

:Latios: Latios

:magnezone: Magnezone

302-m.png Sableye-Mega

:tyranitar:Tyranitar

:weavile:Weavile

 

B Rank

:alomomola:Alomomola

:breloom: Breloom

gyarados-mega.png.m.1733184959 Gyarados-Mega

:hippowdon: Hippowdon

:hydreigon: Hydreigon

latios-mega.png.m.1733184959 Latios-Mega

medicham-mega.png.m.1733184959 Medicham-Mega

:mew:Mew

pinsir-mega.png.m.1733184959 Pinsir-Mega

:skarmory:Skarmory

:Suicune: Suicune

:Thundurus-Therian: Thundurus-T

tyranitar-mega.png.m.1733184959 Tyranitar-Mega

venusaur-mega.png.m.1733184959 Venusaur-Mega

:Volcanion: Volcanion

 

B- Rank

69-png.93327Altaria-Mega

:crawdaunt: Crawdaunt

:gastrodon:Gastrodon

39-png.93321 Heracross-Mega

474Icon.png Porygon-Z

:reuniclus: Reuniclus

743.png Ribombee

 

C Rank:

C+ Rank

:alakazam: Alakazam

:cresselia: Cresselia

660.png Diggersby

:ditto:Ditto

gallade-mega.png.m.1733184959 Gallade-Mega

gengar.png.m.1733184959 Gengar

:mamoswine: Mamowsine

manectric-mega.png.m.1733184959 Manectric-Mega

279.png Pelipper

233.png Porygon2

:quagsire: Quagsire

:scizor: Scizor

swampert-mega.png.m.1733184959 Swampert-Mega

:togekiss: Togekiss

480.png Uxie

 

C Rank

:cloyster:Cloyster

99.png Conkeldurr

gardevoir-mega.png.m.1733184959 Gardevoir-Mega

:gyarados: Gyarados

701.png Hawlucha

230.pngKingdra

105-a.png Marowak-Alola

778.png Mimikyu

slowbro-mega.png.m.1733184959 Slowbro-Mega

:torkoal:Torkoal

003.png Venusaur

 

C- Rank

aerodactyl-mega.png.m.1733184959 Aerodactyl-Mega

:azelf: Azelf

242.png Blissey

:cofagrigus: Cofagrigus

garchomp-mega.png.m.1733184959 Garchomp-Mega

392.png Infernape

:Jellicent:Jellicent

:klefki:Klefki

226.png Mantine

089-a.png Muk-Alola

:nidoking: Nidoking

pidgeot-mega.png.m.1733184959 Pidgeot-Mega

:seismitoad: Seismitoad

:starmie: Starmie

:tentacruel:Tentacruel

Edited by Jorogumo
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806Icon.pngBlacephalon B+ > A-

 

Blacephaplon is one of the premiere fire types in the current meta. It boasts incredible offensive STAB combo in ghost/fire backed by an amazing ability in beast boost. At a base 107 speed it is one of the most potent scarfers we currently have most notably being faster than most rain teams outside of kingdra in rain. Often after netting a single kill and gaining a boost most teams are forced to revenge kill with some sort of priority or Blacephalon can just often sweep games. With access to trick it is also able to cripple one of its best counters in chansey.

 

 

The scarf set in particular is often able to force great progress on more offensive teams being able to 2hko most things before the boost.

 

252 SpA Blacephalon Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Keldeo: 160-189 (49.5 - 58.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

252 SpA Blacephalon Flamethrower vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Zapdos: 180-213 (46.9 - 55.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

252 SpA Blacephalon Flamethrower vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Zapdos: 127-151 (33.1 - 39.4%) -- 16% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

252 SpA Blacephalon Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Clefable: 219-258 (55.5 - 65.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 SpA Blacephalon Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Clefable: 178-211 (45.1 - 53.5%) -- 2% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 SpA Blacephalon Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Garchomp: 168-198 (47 - 55.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

252 SpA Blacephalon Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 168-198 (40 - 47.1%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

252 SpA Blacephalon Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tornadus-Therian: 160-189 (53.5 - 63.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 SpA Blacephalon Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Tornadus-Therian: 120-142 (33.1 - 39.2%) -- 17.6% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock

252 SpA Blacephalon Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Heatran: 139-165 (43 - 51%) -- 52.3% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

 

As you can see most of the top mons which one could consider switch ins are either cleanly 2HKOd or extremely close meaning if a boost is ever given this mon becomes extremely dangerous. It also shares a role with zard-y in being the strongest offensive fire type in the current meta, however it is able to trade off the drawback of holding a mega stone and either boaster its extremely high speed with a choice scarf or extremely high special attack with a choice specs giving it a unique place away from zard-y.

Edited by Pisforpenguin
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15 hours ago, Flipturniscoded said:

Nice post. Would love to see some set recommendations if possible

Hey. We'll work on a separate list of viable sets, but it'll take time. For now, if there is any Pokémon for which you'd like to know the set(s), please let us know.

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On 1/25/2025 at 6:23 PM, Jorogumo said:

Hey. We'll work on a separate list of viable sets, but it'll take time. For now, if there is any Pokémon for which you'd like to know the set(s), please let us know.

Personally I wont even overcomplicate it, start from top to bottom haha. ALl this is great information and I'm really happy we delivering this kind of info for everyone!

 

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The PvP Coordinator team has discussed some more changes to the Viability Rankings based on latest metagame trends and developments.

Rises:
625.png Bisharp: A → A+
A staple on BO and HO teams, Bisharp pairs well with other offensive threats, like Mega Lopunny and Mega Pinsir, to overwhelm physically defensive Pokémon that it would otherwise struggle to overcome by itself, such as Zapdos and Skarmory. It is also a top-tier teammate for Pokémon that appreciate the removal of commonplace walls like Clefable, the Slow twins, Chansey, and more.

zapdos.png.m.1733184959 Zapdos: A → A+
In a metagame where it can check some of the most dangerous offensive threats, like Mega Lopunny, Bisharp, Tornadus-T, Mega Scizor, Mega Pinsir, and much more, Zapdos fits on many offensive, balanced, and defensive builds where it can provide much-needed Defog support, the possibility of chipping down physical assailants with Rocky Helmet, the chance to paralyze them with Static, and decent offensive pressure and momentum even without running HP Ice, thanks to Heat Wave, Hurricane, and Volt Switch.

kyurem-black.png.m.1733184959 Kyurem-B: A- → A
Kyurem-B is a strong wallbreaker with a lot of set diversity and the ability to blow past some would-be checks, like Clefable and Ferrothorn, thanks to Icium Z. While it certainly has its own drawbacks, like its lackluster speed and vulnerability to Stealth Rock, its bulk allows it to stomach a hit and retaliate even in an offensively leaning metagame. 

slowbro.png.m.1733184959 Slowbro: B+ → A-
Slowbro finally joins its specially defensive twin in the A ranks as a strong answer to some of the most prevalent offensive Pokémon in the tier: Mega Lopunny, Mega Metagross, Keldeo, and more. Thanks to Rocky Helmet in conjunction with Teleport, it can swiftly switch into a hit then generate momentum and recover health back with Regenerator. This makes Slowbro an option on more teams than just defensive and balanced structures.

breloom.png.m.1733184959 Breloom: B-  → B
Breloom is a valuable member of specific HO builds that appreciate its priority and ability to incapacitate an opposing Pokémon thanks to Spore and the safety net of Focus Sash. It also performs well against other offensive staples, like Bisharp, Mega Lopunny, and Azumarill just to name a few.

pinsir-mega.png.m.1733184959 Mega Pinsir: B- → B
Just like Breloom, Mega Pinsir finds home on some of the HO builds that heavily benefit from its unique offensive coverage, priority, and ability to overwhelm physical checks with the help of its teammates.

cresselia.png.m.1733184959 Cresselia: C → C+

233.png Porygon2: C- → C+
480.png Uxie: C- → C+
Trick Room carves itself a notable niche in an offensively oriented metagame where it can turn the speed of opposing HO teams into a disadvantage. The addition of Ursaluna also means that TR builds now gain another valuable member that appreciates common setters like Cresselia, Porygon2, and Uxie.

Drops:
646Icon.png Kyurem: S → A+
While Kyurem continues to be a force to be reckoned with in this metagame and can excel against specific team structures, it is decidedly less effective into most of the increasingly common offensive builds.

medicham-mega.png.m.1733184959 Mega Medicham: A- → B
Mega Medicham continues to struggle in this metagame because wallbreaking requires the widespread presence of walls it can effectively break with its coverage. However, it is quite prediction-reliant against structures that revolve around the likes of Clefable, Landorus-T, Zapdos, the Slow twins, etc. Mega Medicham also suffers from 4MSS (4 Moveslot Syndrome) and must pick between Zen Headbutt, Thunder Punch, and Bullet Punch to round out its coverage. Even then, it is left completely walled by Pokémon like Mega Sableye and Aegislash, the latter of which it can only severely damage with Fire Punch, which it simply cannot afford to run.

 

279.png Pelipper: B+ → C+
swampert-mega.png.m.1733184959 Mega Swampert: B+ → C+
230.png Kingdra: B- → C
In what is the steepest, longest overdue drop of this update, common Rain staples find themselves tumbling down the viability ranks for a multitude of reasons. Rain structures are not particularly effective against other offensive teams, like Breloom HO, Veil offense, or even Trick Room. Moreover, the matchup-fishy nature of this playstyle also makes it less reliable against Pokémon like Freeze-Dry Kyurem and Chilly Reception Slowking. The PvP Coordinator team believes that Rain has been ranked exceedingly generously for a while now, and this sudden drop seeks to correct a long-standing misperception.

 

Additions:
gengar.png.m.1733184959 Gengar: Unranked → C+
Gengar has a decent match-up against offense, thanks to its 110 base speed tier, offensive coverage, and access to utility options in Taunt and Destiny Bond. It also fits well on offensive builds, where it can spam Shadow Ball pretty freely while being able to hit common Dark-type switch-ins with Focus Blast and taking advantage of Focus Sash to fire off another hit or use Destiny Bond before fainting.

 

The PvP Coordintor team continues to monitor the VR in lights of the release of new Pokémon, such as Arcanine-Hisui and Ursaluna, and the addition of moves that potentially affect the viability of the likes of Alomomola, the Lati twins, Mega Charizard Y, and Skarmory. However, due to the recency of those events, we are choosing to wait a bit longer before making any further adjustments to the list.

Edited by Jorogumo
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