Haneroze Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 One problem though is that what is UU in Competitive is not necessarily UU in here. In competitive, there's many pokemons that, despite having good stats and movepools, are pushed out of OU due to the metagame. Sometimes, it's because of something like Stealth Rock that is too common and completely ruins the pokemon, sometimes it's because there's another pokemon that is strictly a better choice. However here, we're subject to two things we don't have in the original competitive scene: non-working moves/abilities and rarity. It is absolutely not simple to bring a good Tier 9 pokemon, so they are not as prevalent as they could be in the competitive scene. On top of that, certain pokemon are not as usable as before due to their non-coded ability or crucial moves (The most extreme example being Ditto). This means that OU and UU in PRO might actually differ from original. It might however be a good idea to base our OU and UU based on statistics of pokemon usage. I remember seeing those statistics, with Talonflame leading by a good gap, so I know that's being recorded. Then we could perhaps ban the 50 most used pokemons for UU, and redo that ban on every new PvP season (so once a month) Link to comment https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/84108-%E2%9A%94under-used-pokes-separate-ladder%E2%9A%94/page/2/#findComment-487526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr3y Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I agree but only with the addition of a UU ladder. It'd add more to the game and make buying those subpar Pokemon worth it. But I don't think PRO has anybody capable of implementing this since Shane is focused on another project. Good suggestion though. I don't like the idea of a shiny ladder though. Hardly anyone would be able to participate. Im pretty sure Eaty work hard now ! o/ Waiting future update from him, im hyped to see this. Oh I thought Eaty was only working on storyline updates. Well if he's capable of implementing competitive content then great. Best of luck to him. :y: Link to comment https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/84108-%E2%9A%94under-used-pokes-separate-ladder%E2%9A%94/page/2/#findComment-487527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexicannoob Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 I agree but only with the addition of a UU ladder. It'd add more to the game and make buying those subpar Pokemon worth it. But I don't think PRO has anybody capable of implementing this since Shane is focused on another project. Good suggestion though. I don't like the idea of a shiny ladder though. Hardly anyone would be able to participate. Yes indeed! it will sure make them valuable/worth to buy and on the shiny part, well its ok not to have it, but hopefully the UU may be possible now that Another Staff member can potentially work on it Useful Pokemon Discord Server! Click Me! | My YouTube Channel Click Me! Link to comment https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/84108-%E2%9A%94under-used-pokes-separate-ladder%E2%9A%94/page/2/#findComment-487528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexicannoob Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 One problem though is that what is UU in Competitive is not necessarily UU in here. In competitive, there's many pokemons that, despite having good stats and movepools, are pushed out of OU due to the metagame. Sometimes, it's because of something like Stealth Rock that is too common and completely ruins the pokemon, sometimes it's because there's another pokemon that is strictly a better choice. However here, we're subject to two things we don't have in the original competitive scene: non-working moves/abilities and rarity. It is absolutely not simple to bring a good Tier 9 pokemon, so they are not as prevalent as they could be in the competitive scene. On top of that, certain pokemon are not as usable as before due to their non-coded ability or crucial moves (The most extreme example being Ditto). This means that OU and UU in PRO might actually differ from original. It might however be a good idea to base our OU and UU based on statistics of pokemon usage. I remember seeing those statistics, with Talonflame leading by a good gap, so I know that's being recorded. Then we could perhaps ban the 50 most used pokemons for UU, and redo that ban on every new PvP season (so once a month) I was thinking the same thing that it can be made by banning the top 50s/100s or so Most used pokemon! And God... cant wait for the day to see ditto Coded Useful Pokemon Discord Server! Click Me! | My YouTube Channel Click Me! Link to comment https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/84108-%E2%9A%94under-used-pokes-separate-ladder%E2%9A%94/page/2/#findComment-487529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexicannoob Posted February 15, 2018 Author Share Posted February 15, 2018 Giving the Weekly bump Useful Pokemon Discord Server! Click Me! | My YouTube Channel Click Me! Link to comment https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/84108-%E2%9A%94under-used-pokes-separate-ladder%E2%9A%94/page/2/#findComment-487530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawerty Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 I like the idea of an Underused Ladder, i'd even enjoy a Little Cup ladder, if we're being honest. “Believe nothing you hear, and only one half that you see.” Link to comment https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/84108-%E2%9A%94under-used-pokes-separate-ladder%E2%9A%94/page/2/#findComment-489987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexicannoob Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 Giving the Weekly Bump Useful Pokemon Discord Server! Click Me! | My YouTube Channel Click Me! Link to comment https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/84108-%E2%9A%94under-used-pokes-separate-ladder%E2%9A%94/page/2/#findComment-494183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mebzerg Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 It would be good but honestly I just dont think pro has enough people to support two different competitive queues. Sure more people will bother with pvp if they can use weaker stuff, but I dont think it would be enough to keep both of them having enough people to be fun. Link to comment https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/84108-%E2%9A%94under-used-pokes-separate-ladder%E2%9A%94/page/2/#findComment-494981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexicannoob Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 Giving the weekly Bump Useful Pokemon Discord Server! Click Me! | My YouTube Channel Click Me! Link to comment https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/84108-%E2%9A%94under-used-pokes-separate-ladder%E2%9A%94/page/2/#findComment-498397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexicannoob Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 giving the weekly bump Useful Pokemon Discord Server! Click Me! | My YouTube Channel Click Me! Link to comment https://pokemonrevolution.net/forum/topic/84108-%E2%9A%94under-used-pokes-separate-ladder%E2%9A%94/page/2/#findComment-504545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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