Jorogumo

I've taken into account all the previous comments: Kingdra: A- Weavile: A+ Hippowdon: B+ Klefki: B+ Starmie: B+ Arcanine: B Feraligatr: B+ Gastrodon: A- Lucario: A- Mamoswine: A- Mantine: A- Omastar: B Serperior: A- Haxorus: B+ Jellicent: B- Ninetales: B- Smeargle: B Shuckle: B- Talonflame: B- Torkoal: B- Exeggutor: C+ Victreebel: B- Gardevoir: C+ I also went ahead and moved Krookodile from B- to B due to the addition of Pursuit, which the Choice Scarf set, which is the recommended set, benefits most from. I've added Tailwind and Stored Power to some sets.

Done. Thank you!

I've taken into account all the previous comments as well as this one (from Discord): Greninja: S Versatile and splashable. Perfect coverage. Can beat all its supposed counters. Can 2HKO Chansey if physically offensive with Low Kick after Stealth Rock damage. Can beat Mantine with Rock Slide or Hidden Power Electric. Can beat the likes of Suicune and Poliwrath with Hidden Power Electric, Hidden Power Grass or Grass Knot. Can beat Gastrodon with Hidden Power Grass or Grass Knot. Can beat Ferrothorn with Hidden Power Fire. Can U-turn for free, gaining momentum. [*]Rotom-Heat: A- [*]Azelf: A- [*]Conkeldurr: A [*]Heracross: A [*]Magnezone: A- [*]Slowbro: B+ [*]Togekiss: A- [*]Blissey: B+ [*]Goodra: B+ [*]Reuniclus: A- [*]Crawdaunt: A- [*]Venusaur: B [*]Chandelure: B+ [*]Ludicolo: B+ [*]Snorlax: B [*]Aerodactyl: B+ [*]Doublade: B- Discussion points: Kingdra: A or A-? Weavile: A or A+? Hippowdon: A- or B+? Klefki: A- or B+? Starmie: A- or B+? Arcanine: B+ or B? Feraligatr: B+ or B? Gastrodon: B+ or A-? Lucario: B+ or A-? Mamoswine: B+ or A-? Mantine: B+ or A-? Omastar: B+ or B? Serperior: B+ or A-? Haxorus: B or B+? Jellicent: B or B-? Ninetales: B or B-? Smeargle: B or B-? Shuckle: B or B-? Talonflame: B or B-? Torkoal: B or B-? Exeggutor: B- or C+? Victreebel: B- or C+? Gardevoir: B- or C+?

Based on the discussion so far (as well as my own personal opinion), I have changed the discussion points of Slowbro from "A or A-?" to "A- or B+?" and Aerodactyl from "B or B-?" to "B+ or B?".

List updated. Additions: Added an Unaware set to Clefable Added an offensive trapper set to Heatran Added two Mold Breaker sets to Excadrill Added Pursuit to Tyranitar, Weavile and Scizor Added Trick to Latios, Latias, Jirachi, Rotom-Heat and Chandelure Added Magma Storm and Power Herb to Heatran Added Encore to Alakazam Added Drain Punch to Conkeldurr Added Greninja to S Discussion points: Greninja: S or A+? Rotom-Heat: A or A-? Azelf: A or A-? Conkeldurr: A or A-? Heracross: A or A-? Magnezone: A or A-? Slowbro: A- or B+? Togekiss: A or A-? Blissey: A- or B+? Goodra: A- or B+? Reuniclus: A- or B+? Crawdaunt: A- or B+? Venusaur: B+ or B? Chandelure: B+ or B? Ludicolo: B+ or B? Snorlax: B+ or B? Aerodactyl: B+ or B? Doublade: B or B-?

Vote: Yes Reason: Team preview will make the game more competitive and less RNG-dependent, as it will allow players to play more strategically. Current rating: 0 (I was on the ladder on October 2017, November 2017, December 2017 and January 2018)

4 reroll tickets and 200K.

Choice Scarf Togekiss is an abomination and those who use that set should be ashamed of themselves.

List updated. Additions: Added new moves (e.g. Liquidation, Clear Smog, Icicle Crash) Added a Poison Heal set to Breloom and a Choice Band option to the Weavile set Added Mantine to B+, Pelipper to A-, Rotom-Heat to A, Rotom-Wash to A and Torkoal to B Removals: Removed Blaziken, Dugtrio and Politoed Removed the defensive Ninetales set Rises: Moved Amoonguss from A- to A Moved Breloom from A- to A Moved Conkeldurr from B+ to BL to A Moved Heracross from B+ to BL to A Moved Ludicolo from B to BL to B+ Moved Mamoswine from B to B+ Moved Volcarona from A- to A+ Moved Weavile from A- to A Drops: Moved Gengar from A+ to A Moved Skarmory from A+ to A Moved Talonflame from S to B

Gone with the Wind The blue moon shines bright in the starry sky Above this meadow that no one goes by. Yet, in the silence of this windy night, Two Nidorans are keeping close and tight. Hidden in some bushes under the trees Where the coldest air feels just like a breeze, The lovers gaze into each other's eyes With passionate love as one of them cries And the other lies quietly in pain; The night gets darker and it starts to rain. By the time the sun has started rising, The tiny pairs of paws have stopped moving. The lone Nidoran's come to realize That we may die, but true love never dies. —Jorogumo.

[mention]Shenal[/mention], the list is still incomplete. I'll be going over the Pokémon in the lower tiers in the future. I already indicated that Rhyperior (and a few others) will rise, but probably just by one tier or two.

Hello, everyone! I am Jorogumo from NoMercy, a guild on silver server. Months ago, my friend (sgtbianco) and I looked through tr3y's (now Enforcer's) viability list. We loved the idea, but thought that it would be even better if sets and checks for each Pokémon were added. So, we started our own project: our own viability tier list. Here it is: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I7-RFOILI_fN4Oca8aKW51lPEqiiAHkkSBtcdfUc9sM. The list is currently incomplete and will probably remain that way, because 1. it would take too long to add sets and counters/checks to everything and 2. I'd like to work on a similar list when PokéOne comes out and might have no time left for this one. But, for now, we can work on it together. If you have any suggestions, please let me know. I'll soon add polls to see if you guys agree with some of the rise/drop suggestions already mentioned in the document. You can comment on that starting now, though. If you want to help, please fill out this form: [Write the Pokémon's name here] Current tier: Desired tier (optional): Recommended set (optional): Ability: Nature: Item: EVs: Moves: 1. 2. 3. 4. [*]Checks/Counters (optional): My goal is simple: I'd like to make the list as detailed and accurate as possible to help as many players as I can. Special thanks to everyone who helped me review the list, including njnp, TR3Y, ThePokeMaestro, Dakivid, HeroOfTheStreet, YuronLee, expendable99, Smooge, GlogS and Coup0d0boule.

Player name: Jorogumo Showdown name: Spuddington Server: Blue Rank on ladder: 20

Re: Auction Godly Pokemons <r>Is the auction over, <MENTION><s>[mention]</s>DocJP<e>[/mention]</e></MENTION>?</r>

Re: Auction Godly Pokemons <t>950K.</t>

Re: Auction Godly Pokemons <t>850K.</t>

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Hey, is this good enough for you? If so, please make an offer. Otherwise, good luck!

So, if I understand correctly, the issue has nothing to do with the ban of the combined use of Unaware and Soft-Boiled (which the community voted on, some because it's an illegal combination in the original Pokémon games, and others because of other reasons). It is because of the ensuing ban of the combined use of Poison Heal and Defog, right? Were all these polls created in a sincere effort to ban all the other illegal combinations or simply to upset the staff members? And would said polls have been created at all, had the community been polled about the ban of the combination of Poison Heal and Defog (and maybe this last point is the actual issue)?

What about Flame Body Heatran? I don't see a poll.

They should be allowed.

Nothing against it.

Re: Softboiled and Unaware ability combined - Allow or Ban from ranked PvP or not? <t>I support banning the combined use of the ability Unaware and the move Softboiled.</t>