PRO Viability Rankings (PVP)

[Sangkujung]

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<r><QUOTE author="PreHax"><s>

</s><POST content="282565"><s></s>282565<e></e></POST> request a rank for <br/>

Ambipom and Cofagrigus<e>

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Added, thank you for pointing them out to me.</r>

[Sirchancelot]

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<t>Thanks for the tier list its much appreciated.</t>

[N3m3s1s]

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<t>Now i have my Tier list. <br/>

Thank you!</t>

[Prehax]

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<t>Name: Ambipom<br/>

Current tier: B<br/>

Desired tier: A-<br/>

Reason: simple reason, high damge + access to Ice/Thunder/Fire-Punch+ strong priority move (+3) that makes u flinch 100% <br/>

<br/>

<br/>

Name: Cofagrigus<br/>

Current tier: B-<br/>

Desired tier: B+/A-<br/>

Reason: high tank, immune to normal/fight AND good as support with haze and will-o-wisp in his kit + +1 priority stab move<br/>

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Name: Celebi <br/>

Current tier: B+<br/>

Desired tier: A-<br/>

Reason: with the right nature and ev's this pokemon is a hell of a spatk tank + access to calm mind and recover <br/>

<br/>

Name: Mandibuzz <br/>

Current tier: A-<br/>

Desired tier: B<br/>

Reason: not sure why this pokemon is even an A tier ranked pokemon, havent seen one in over 800 games so there must be a reason<br/>

<br/>

Name: Krookodile<br/>

Current tier: C+<br/>

Desired tier: B<br/>

Reason: with access to moxie this thing is a beast but has many a few weaknesses so just B tier<br/>

<br/>

Name: Drapion<br/>

Current tier: C+<br/>

Desired tier: B+<br/>

Reason: access to sword dance and 2 improved crit chance stab moves and the ability sniper + razor claw this thing can do easily a 1v6<br/>

<br/>

Name: Blastoise <br/>

Current tier: C+<br/>

Desired tier: B+<br/>

Reason: one of the best rapid spinners in the game rn and tanky enough to take some hits</t>

[Sirchancelot]

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<r><QUOTE author="PreHax"><s>

</s><POST content="282691"><s></s>282691<e></e></POST> Name: Ambipom<br/>

Current tier: B<br/>

Desired tier: A-<br/>

Reason: simple reason, high damge + access to Ice/Thunder/Fire-Punch+ strong priority move (+3) that makes u flinch 100% <br/>

<br/>

<br/>

Name: Cofagrigus<br/>

Current tier: B-<br/>

Desired tier: B+/A-<br/>

Reason: high tank, immune to normal/fight AND good as support with haze and will-o-wisp in his kit + +1 priority stab move<br/>

<br/>

Name: Celebi <br/>

Current tier: B+<br/>

Desired tier: A-<br/>

Reason: with the right nature and ev's this pokemon is a hell of a spatk tank + access to calm mind and recover <br/>

<br/>

Name: Mandibuzz <br/>

Current tier: A-<br/>

Desired tier: B<br/>

Reason: not sure why this pokemon is even an A tier ranked pokemon, havent seen one in over 800 games so there must be a reason<br/>

<br/>

Name: Krookodile<br/>

Current tier: C+<br/>

Desired tier: B<br/>

Reason: with access to moxie this thing is a beast but has many a few weaknesses so just B tier<br/>

<br/>

Name: Drapion<br/>

Current tier: C+<br/>

Desired tier: B+<br/>

Reason: access to sword dance and 2 improved crit chance stab moves and the ability sniper + razor claw this thing can do easily a 1v6<br/>

<br/>

Name: Blastoise <br/>

Current tier: C+<br/>

Desired tier: B+<br/>

Reason: one of the best rapid spinners in the game rn and tanky enough to take some hits<e>

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I agree with most of what you said minus the blastoise and mandibuzz parts. Mandibuzz is often overlooked but is such an amazing mixed wall. Even without having foulplay it has a great potential moveset. <br/>

I'm extremely biased about blastoise. I think that pokemon got shafted for abilities relative to the other two starters and have always looked down on it regardless of what people use it for lol but thats just me.</r>

[Tr3y]

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<r><QUOTE author="SirChancelot"><s>

</s><POST content="282708"><s></s>282708<e></e></POST> <QUOTE author="PreHax"><s>

</s><POST content="282691"><s></s>282691<e></e></POST> Name: Ambipom<br/>

Current tier: B<br/>

Desired tier: A-<br/>

Reason: simple reason, high damge + access to Ice/Thunder/Fire-Punch+ strong priority move (+3) that makes u flinch 100% <br/>

<br/>

<br/>

Name: Cofagrigus<br/>

Current tier: B-<br/>

Desired tier: B+/A-<br/>

Reason: high tank, immune to normal/fight AND good as support with haze and will-o-wisp in his kit + +1 priority stab move<br/>

<br/>

Name: Celebi <br/>

Current tier: B+<br/>

Desired tier: A-<br/>

Reason: with the right nature and ev's this pokemon is a hell of a spatk tank + access to calm mind and recover <br/>

<br/>

Name: Mandibuzz <br/>

Current tier: A-<br/>

Desired tier: B<br/>

Reason: not sure why this pokemon is even an A tier ranked pokemon, havent seen one in over 800 games so there must be a reason<br/>

<br/>

Name: Krookodile<br/>

Current tier: C+<br/>

Desired tier: B<br/>

Reason: with access to moxie this thing is a beast but has many a few weaknesses so just B tier<br/>

<br/>

Name: Drapion<br/>

Current tier: C+<br/>

Desired tier: B+<br/>

Reason: access to sword dance and 2 improved crit chance stab moves and the ability sniper + razor claw this thing can do easily a 1v6<br/>

<br/>

Name: Blastoise <br/>

Current tier: C+<br/>

Desired tier: B+<br/>

Reason: one of the best rapid spinners in the game rn and tanky enough to take some hits<e>

</e></QUOTE>

I agree with most of what you said minus the blastoise and mandibuzz parts. Mandibuzz is often overlooked but is such an amazing mixed wall. Even without having foulplay it has a great potential moveset. <br/>

I'm extremely biased about blastoise. I think that pokemon got shafted for abilities relative to the other two starters and have always looked down on it regardless of what people use it for lol but thats just me.<e>

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Mandibuzz is A- ranked because of it's ability to defog entry hazards away. With access to Taunt + Knock Off, it can break walls such as Ferrothorn, Blissey, Hippowdon, and Skarmory. I haven't really seen too much Celebi to fully understand how viable it is in the current metagame. It can definitely be A- ranking though. Cofagrigus isn't a higher rank because of it's competition in Dusknoir, Sableye, and Gengar. They are superior to it and there isn't really much Cofagrigus has that sets it aside from these. Ambipom is B ranking because it is easily walled by pokemon such as Hippowdon, Skarmory, Sableye, Dusknoir, Slowbro, Milotic, etc. etc. There really isn't much it can do if people have pokemon such as these in there team and in the current meta this is the case. Drapion can be argued for B- or B rank but it is also walled and revenge killed by many pokemon in the current metagame. Blastoise's lack of recovery is what puts him in C+. There are more effective spinners / defoggers in Starmie, Mandibuzz, and Scizor. Once his leftovers is gone this pokemon is easily worn down. It also lacks the firepower to deal any significant damage.</r>

[Prehax]

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<r><QUOTE author="SirChancelot"><s>

</s><POST content="282708"><s></s>282708<e></e></POST> I agree with most of what you said minus the blastoise and mandibuzz parts. Mandibuzz is often overlooked but is such an amazing mixed wall. Even without having foulplay it has a great potential moveset. <br/>

I'm extremely biased about blastoise. I think that pokemon got shafted for abilities relative to the other two starters and have always looked down on it regardless of what people use it for lol but thats just me.<e>

</e></QUOTE>

<QUOTE author="TR3Y"><s>

</s><POST content="282715"><s></s>282715<e></e></POST> Mandibuzz is A- ranked because of it's ability to defog entry hazards away. With access to Taunt + Knock Off, it can break walls such as Ferrothorn, Blissey, Hippowdon, and Skarmory. I haven't really seen too much Celebi to fully understand how viable it is in the current metagame. It can definitely be A- ranking though. Cofagrigus isn't a higher rank because of it's competition in Dusknoir, Sableye, and Gengar. They are superior to it and there isn't really much Cofagrigus has that sets it aside from these. Ambipom is B ranking because it is easily walled by pokemon such as Hippowdon, Skarmory, Sableye, Dusknoir, Slowbro, Milotic, etc. etc. There really isn't much it can do if people have pokemon such as these in there team and in the current meta this is the case. Drapion can be argued for B- or B rank but it is also walled and revenge killed by many pokemon in the current metagame. Blastoise's lack of recovery is what puts him in C+. There are more effective spinners / defoggers in Starmie, Mandibuzz, and Scizor. Once his leftovers is gone this pokemon is easily worn down. It also lacks the firepower to deal any significant damage.<e>

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I guess I didnt looked into Mandibuzz that well, and in case of cofa well I guess i was wrong<br/>

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in case of blastoise, i didnt know that he was that weak <br/>

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for drapion is really strong with one s.d but yeah can easily be counter but stab dark knockoff or stab xpoison is pretty strong<br/>

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celebi is pretty good in this meta with access to recover and natural cure</r>

[Snowbull]

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<t>azumarill in S tier without even the berry working properly, not sure about that</t>

[Prehax]

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<r><QUOTE author="snowbull"><s>

</s><POST content="282904"><s></s>282904<e></e></POST> azumarill in S tier without even the berry working properly, not sure about that<e>

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well its tanky enough, most of the time they just run lum berries and sitrus berry is working fine</r>

[Xrevolutionx94]

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<t>-is just here to be that 100th post xD</t>