finished The Ultimate Boss Guide for Newbies! REWORKED AFTER UPDATES!

[Maters]

Why did you remove the individual boss notes?

[Bhimoso]

@Maters

 

Hey, the individual notes only applied to Mega Slowbro teams and not to other kind of teams. I will update it soon so it is global! Just let me get home lol.

[Bhimoso]

Updated.

[Garnet]

Awesome guide, really appreciate the time taken for this!

 

Out of curiosity, do you think No Guard Machamp + Fissure works?

 

Also, any thoughts on Mew as Baton Passer?

[Bhimoso]

@Garnet

As far as I know, Machamp cannot get the No Guard + Fissure combo due to it only learning Fissure in Gen 1 and being transferred to a future generation using the 3ds makes it always have its HA (Steadfast). So, sadly, it's not possible :c

Mew as a Baton Passer is perfectly fine. Nasty Plot, Agility, Substitute and Baton Pass is a great set for SPATK sweepers. Otherwise, Swords Dance, Agility, Substitute and Baton Pass also works.

[Garnet]

@Bhimoso

 

Thanks for the Mew tips. Was training up a Furret and just remembered my Mew. Any thoughts about which to train/safer? Seems like Mew is more flexible and initially bulkier whilst Furret gets better set up moves

 

 

Shame about the Machamp, probably too broken lol

Edited July 24, 2023 by Garnet

[Bhimoso]

@Garnet If both your Mew and Furret are already level 100, I'd take advantage of Mew and train it since it has higher base stats and can set up faster than Furret (3 Agility, 3 Nasty Plot or Swords Dance is faster than 3 Agility but also 6 Coil from Furret). If you need to train Mew however or your Mew is bad, you can always just hunt Sentret and Furret easily in Route 39 or Route 1 to get a good one.

Edited July 24, 2023 by Bhimoso

[Garnet]

@Bhimoso

 

Thank you!

 

Sorry another newb question, why do we need to invest in speed for Jumpluff? Is there a minimum speed requirement needed to outspeed a certain boss mega poke? Just checking if I should invest all in speed EVs or if I meet the minimum then I could invest in defenses?

[Bhimoso]

@Garnet

 

The speed investment is for the Mega pokemon with which some bosses lead, particularly Mega Salamance and Mega Aerodactyl.
Jumpluff outspeeds all other Mega pokemon that bosses lead with except those two. Those two require you to first Cotton Spore them with another pokemon (or use Scary Face or whatever other speed reducing move first) and then you can continue debuffing with Jumpluff. It is also invested in speed for very specific bosses where it is useful to Worry Seed or to use it to debuff (example: Milotic in Misty, Machamp in Chuck (idk if it's Chuck or Bruno), etc)

[Gladiator1]

do you basically use mons 1-5 to setup on the boss's first mon? and then bring in 6 (Sweeper) and wipe the whole team?