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Kanto (finished):

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First Gym:

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Before:

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After:

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Second Gym:

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Before:

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After:

I missed this sc.. please, this is the only i missed and I have good stuff ahead, dont disqualify my reward for this.

Third Gym:

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Before:

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After:

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Fourth Gym:

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After:

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Fifth Gym:

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Before:

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After:

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Sixth Gym:

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Before:

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After:

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Seventh Gym:

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After:

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Eight Gym:

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After:

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Extra - After Elite four:

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Kanto Comentaries:
 

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* I noticed that the beggining of the game is so much easier, and that's great. The pace of the game guides towards less frustration, and then less chance of premature quitting. The feeling is that just the normal map progression is enough to beat first gym. Although I did the Exp potion challenge, and it took me 1,5h to beat first gym.

* The level up strategy that consists of switching at the start of the battle seems to give good results now, I tested on a magikarp and the penalty for switching doesn't invalidate this strategy anymore. Magikarp at route 3 isn't useless anymore and abra turned to be an easier viable option for story.

* The level table seems to be ramped up at level 35-40 for evolved pokes. When at saffron gym, and when I battled against level 50 pokemons the poke received 2000 xp, which is half or less than a level. Seemed like I was 15 levels behind the story, counting that I defeated most trainers and focused on 4 pokes.

* Saffron was the first gym i wiped out A LOT. i had to take a time and evolve my pokes outside. My decision was to focus on Gyarados solo and stop using exp share with main map progression from there on. 

* after lv 50 I continue to gain ~2000 xp per trainer's poke defeated, so i couldn't count on an over level strategy anymore. I had to stop and and spend ~4h with EV training my main pokes.

* I had some struggle on leveling evolved Gyarados, but i did manage to train and evolve it enought to beat elite four alone. 

 

Other notes:

*Evolving doesn't reset exp bar, which is great.

*Receiving exp on catching is great at the beggining, when you need to lv up fast but need a lot of new pokes, It's a great feeling to get both rewards

Some bugs found:

* at viridian forest, i had a lv 8 kakuna. It showed kakuna lv up to 9 when catching another poke, but it really didn't lv up (needed 88 and got 67 from catching).

* kakuna reached lv 10 and lv up window didn't appeared

* when i catched geodude, after the catch confirmation it executed another rollout turn on my pokemon inside the pokeball

 

 

 

Johto (finished):

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First Gym:

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Before:

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After:

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Second Gym:

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Before:

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After:

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Third Gym:

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Before:

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After:

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Fourth Gym:

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Before:

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After:

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Fifth Gym:

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Before:

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After:

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Sixth Gym:

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Before:

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After:

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Seventh Gym:

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Before:

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After:

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Eight Gym:

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Before:

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After:

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Extra - Elite Four:

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Before:

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After:

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Johto Commentaries:

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* I decided to try the old "do not evolve your pokes" strategy to compare with the kanto experience i had.

* Like kanto, i had the impression that my first poke was leveling super supe fast, and the impression was that i was goind to finish this region in 6h at this pace, faaaasst, 1HKO feels great!

* Well, after 2nd gym, ~lv 30, i started to feel unleveled again with the story trainers. I started to focus on one poke but it wasn't enough, so after 3rd gym i did a quick run to EV train my pokes.

* after 4th gym i realized i'm running out of money because of revives. I feel like level is hard even with unleveled pokes cause they're weak, even with good type matchup. I had to spend more time to complete the EV train on my 4 main pokes,o i can maintain an equilibrium with my pokedollars. otherwise i'll start to wipe out.

* i literally wiped out trying gym 5. I decided that keeping my pokes unleveled was totally unneficient, since i couldn't focus on 1 poke to level up cause they easily fainted. I had to get a gengar in route 31, ev train and level it up to 50+ before continue. here, exp share showed it's value as a tool. i easily evolved it before ev training, and the rest of the story was easily done, since i had a 1HKO poke that gave me money from trainers. I finally felt i was going to finish at time.

* at E4 i used my rare candies on gyarados for the sake of time, but it swiped the whole thing, and gained 2 levels doind it.

 

Other notes:

* Mi final conclusion for the level table to me now is that the first 15 levels are TOO easy. mid game is fine and late game is rough. 

 

Some bugs found:

* A trainer's Smeargle used dragon tail. cyndaquil was dragged out, mareep entered. smeargle used dragon tail again. mareep was dragged out and.. mareep entered (?). mareep finished the smeargle, then cyndaquil, mareep and haunter got exp. Mareep was holding exp share.

* Some times when my poke faint and i try to switch to othe poke, my mareep that was fainted and was holding exp share appears in the place of the choosen poke, then it instantly faints and i have to choose the poke again, and then it works as expected.

 

 

 

Edited by Guidelli
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I forgot to took the screenshot before, but I can explain how the gym changed the pokémon. (Fuschia, 5th Kanto gym)

 

(Growlithe) Lvl up from 42 to 43, (outrage), with the gym trainers, then rare candy til lvl 45 (flare blitz), then evolved with fire stone.

(Pidgeot) No change in level, nearly got one though by killing Crobat and Venomoth against the leader.

(Venusaur) No change at all. It got in to leech seed against the gym leader and get killed.

(Poliwhirl) Lvl up from 41 to 43 (Wake Up Slap), with the gym trainers, then evolved with water stone.

(Graveler) No change at all. It only used smack down once against the gym leader's crobat (didn't kill), and got flinched to death.

(Kadabra) Didn't fight at all. It got lvld up with exp share as an abra from 34 to 40. I evolved it at lvl 37.

 

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before gym1

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after gym1

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before 2nd gym

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after gym 2

 

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gym3

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gym4

 

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gym5 before

 

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gym5 after

 

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gym6 before

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gym6 after

 

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gym7 

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gym8

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Feedback : overall addition of the exp share is very nice but it gives very less exp . And it even created a bug i guess if the exp share holder poke died then we choose other one then the animation shows the exp share poke is thrown out and it faints again and then choose poke again. But adding exp share is very nice .  Plus i would like to suggest to bring the snowy map to all regions in main servers too in christmas update it kinda looks cool. Thank you

Edited by Vns44
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I am very sorry I forgot to take the screenshot before the first gym kanto (spare me)

But I can exactly tell you the changes that happened.

I promise to take the screenshot from next the next gym

Before:

Oddish = level 13 , absorb move one hits geodude but it survives due to sturdy geodude hits oddish to half hp, another absorb faints it.

Next poke onix, Oddish one hits it but survives due to sturdy. Onix hits Oddish, oddish faints.

Budew = budew comes in and defeats onix with absorb (lvl 10)

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